Archiving prog with gui...

keropi · 08 December 2005, 13:29

Is there an archiver for the amiga similar to winzip/winrar in terms of looks and gui? I tried AnArchiver but I find it has too many bugs/probs... anything using the ppc aswell???

dondilly · 08 December 2005, 15:38

One of the few with a GUI I remember was a pkzip archiver. I cant remember much about it other than the fact that it was distributed on one of the early mag disks from one of the big 3 (amiga format, CU Amiga of Amiga computing) nice interface in its day but couldnt find anything else that would unarc the resultant zip files. certainly winzip on the PC didnt see them as valid zip files.
Im sure if you found contents lists of the early mag disks you would locate it quite quickly.
But it was really a case of nice GUI shame about the archiver

OddbOd · 09 December 2005, 06:06

I don't think there is anything that exactly fits your requirements for three reasons, firstly most people in the past used their file manager (DOpus or SID) to perform archiving tasks rather than using a separate tool. Secondly, the inclusion of the xadmaster library with AmigaOS 3.9 negated the need for GUI based un-archivers. Lastly, it has been assumed for a long time that people who need to create archives will be happy to use CLI-based tools.

The only archiver GUI that I have used is the ancient GuiArc which is fine on a classic Amiga but may not be suitable for a modern PPC-based machine.

The program dondilly is talking about is the very old PKAZip which despite his recollection creates perfectly valid ZIP archives that can be extracted by any ZIP tool, its main problem was that it could not unpack archives using the deflate method which was the default in PKZIP 2.0+ rendering it useless for unpacking ZIPs created on a PC.

dondilly · 09 December 2005, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by OddbOd

its main problem was that it could not unpack archives using the deflate method which was the default in PKZIP 2.0+ rendering it useless for unpacking ZIPs created on a PC.

ah I stand corrected, that may well have been it.
Yes I think it was PKAZIP I was thinking about.
It has been years since Ive used it and all I could recall that while it was OK for archiving on the amiga, where i came unstuck when I tried to use it when (un)archiving files to transfer between PC and amiga and one way or another, wether it was winzip not seeing its files as valid or the other way round, it proved pretty useless.

Back in those days I seemed to be spending more time on packers/crunchers Everything possibly would end up getting crunched by powerpacker trying to squeeze every last drop of space on my HD than worrying about archivers. :-)

kriz · 09 December 2005, 17:54

Good you asked this question

I have used Unarc for many years on my amiga.. But i knew there were another goodie, X-Arc:

http://main.aminet.net/util/arc/X-Arc.lha

This is a demo version, but it says in the installer that it is OK to copy the keyfile. The author have sadly given it up ... This is a graphical gui like winzip/winrar

it looks sweet..

Anyone have this keyfile for X-Arc?

jobro · 09 December 2005, 20:48

Yet another vaporware. Oh well what can one expect when it comes to AMIGA. Is there any coders active who code new programs for the AMIGA?

DrBong · 10 December 2005, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriz

Anyone have this keyfile for X-Arc?

Probably the best GUI (de)archiver until Voodoo-X came along. I've put a cracked version of the V1.4ß2 update in the Zone. Just copy the relevant files over the top of V1.3.

keropi · 10 December 2005, 21:28

thnx dr!

keropi · 11 December 2005, 13:05

hmmm... applied the files over the 1.3 ones, but now x-arc won't start... perhaps because I tested it in AF2005 enviroment?

Frog · 11 December 2005, 14:13

a good alternative is MiraWizArc and it's free !

AMIGAZ · 11 December 2005, 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frog

a good alternative is MiraWizArc and it's free !

mmmm...looks nice.
Is it only in French or in anglais too?

Frog · 11 December 2005, 16:23

why only french ? the original author is italian !
A quick look at aminet indicated that there's an uk,fr,it,de,hu,pl catalog available well it seems.
I use it since some times and it works pretty well... even if i've the feeling that using the CLI is faster... don't ask me why

perhaps because 1>lzx x *.lzx ram:

As Mr.Bong says, Voodoo-X is the best unarchiver/unpacker GUI as it support xadmaster.library but notice that it can ONLY unpack.

keropi · 11 December 2005, 21:45

yeah, that's why posting about voodoo-x is pointless in this thread, since I am looking for an archiving prog, not an extraction one....

kriz · 11 December 2005, 22:34

[quote=jobro]Yet another vaporware. Oh well what can one expect when it comes to AMIGA. Is there any coders active who code new programs for the AMIGA?[/QUOTE

Check Aminet.net before saying stuff like this man ... The Amiga scene is small but there sure is still some very skilled and active coders left..

Thanks Dr. Bong, will test later tonight

keropi · 12 December 2005, 08:15

has anyone figured how to use the x-arc crk? it does not work for me....

DrBong · 12 December 2005, 18:25

@Keropi
It works fine here for me on A4000/060. Have you tried it on a real Amiga? Have you checked that all the files are where they should be by following the manual installation steps in the docs?

Anyone else tried installing it and had problems like Keropi?

Bamiga2002 · 12 December 2005, 20:03

MUI-UnArc:
http://www.aminet.net/search.php?query=muiunarc

keropi · 12 December 2005, 20:13

nope, bad Bamiga2002!

we are looking for progs to create arcs....

Bamiga2002 · 12 December 2005, 20:15

Ah, ok then

. I use DOPUS to create them...

keropi · 12 December 2005, 21:05

LOL

hey the crack works now, it appears it needs a reboot to activate ??? anyway it works, thanx DrBong! (again)

Bloodwych · 12 December 2005, 21:54

MiraWizarc as already mentioned by Frog.

The best choice is a configured Dopus like Bamiga highlighted, as it uses shell directly and doesn't suffer the little bugs I've found in other GUI archivers (see here http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/bugs.htm )

keropi · 12 December 2005, 22:01

bloodwych, give a try with AnArchiver + it's update, it's nice.... you will not find any bugs as long as you use the button to create an archive and not write its name/location manually... also x-arc seems really really nice...

Bloodwych · 12 December 2005, 23:07

Cool, I'll give them a try.

AMIGAZ · 04 January 2006, 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

LOL

hey the crack works now, it appears it needs a reboot to activate ??? anyway it works, thanx DrBong! (again)

Yo

Didn't work for me either after updating and not after a reboot either, bah

Did you just install the X-Arc 1.3 and then unpack the update and overwrote the 1.3? and then after a reboot it worked?

keropi · 04 January 2006, 19:51

yep, installed, reboot, crack, reboot, all OK

08 December 2005, 13:29	#1
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	Archiving prog with gui... Is there an archiver for the amiga similar to winzip/winrar in terms of looks and gui? I tried AnArchiver but I find it has too many bugs/probs... anything using the ppc aswell??? __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

10 December 2005, 21:28	#8
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	thnx dr! __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

11 December 2005, 13:05	#9
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	hmmm... applied the files over the 1.3 ones, but now x-arc won't start... perhaps because I tested it in AF2005 enviroment? __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

11 December 2005, 16:23	#12
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,145	why only french ? the original author is italian ! A quick look at aminet indicated that there's an uk,fr,it,de,hu,pl catalog available well it seems. I use it since some times and it works pretty well... even if i've the feeling that using the CLI is faster... don't ask me why perhaps because 1>lzx x .lzx ram: As Mr.Bong says, Voodoo-X is the best unarchiver/unpacker GUI as it support xadmaster.library but notice that it can ONLY unpack. Last edited by Frog; 11 December 2005 at 16:31.*

11 December 2005, 21:45	#13
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	yeah, that's why posting about voodoo-x is pointless in this thread, since I am looking for an archiving prog, not an extraction one.... __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

08 December 2005, 15:38	#2
dondilly Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Somerset UK Age: 49 Posts: 42	One of the few with a GUI I remember was a pkzip archiver. I cant remember much about it other than the fact that it was distributed on one of the early mag disks from one of the big 3 (amiga format, CU Amiga of Amiga computing) nice interface in its day but couldnt find anything else that would unarc the resultant zip files. certainly winzip on the PC didnt see them as valid zip files. Im sure if you found contents lists of the early mag disks you would locate it quite quickly. But it was really a case of nice GUI shame about the archiver

09 December 2005, 06:06	#3
OddbOd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Age: 36 Posts: 623	I don't think there is anything that exactly fits your requirements for three reasons, firstly most people in the past used their file manager (DOpus or SID) to perform archiving tasks rather than using a separate tool. Secondly, the inclusion of the xadmaster library with AmigaOS 3.9 negated the need for GUI based un-archivers. Lastly, it has been assumed for a long time that people who need to create archives will be happy to use CLI-based tools. The only archiver GUI that I have used is the ancient GuiArc which is fine on a classic Amiga but may not be suitable for a modern PPC-based machine. The program dondilly is talking about is the very old PKAZip which despite his recollection creates perfectly valid ZIP archives that can be extracted by any ZIP tool, its main problem was that it could not unpack archives using the deflate method which was the default in PKZIP 2.0+ rendering it useless for unpacking ZIPs created on a PC.

09 December 2005, 17:54	#5
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 31 Posts: 2,201	Good you asked this question I have used Unarc for many years on my amiga.. But i knew there were another goodie, X-Arc: http://main.aminet.net/util/arc/X-Arc.lha This is a demo version, but it says in the installer that it is OK to copy the keyfile. The author have sadly given it up ... This is a graphical gui like winzip/winrar it looks sweet.. Anyone have this keyfile for X-Arc?

09 December 2005, 20:48	#6
jobro Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 41 Posts: 129	Yet another vaporware. Oh well what can one expect when it comes to AMIGA. Is there any coders active who code new programs for the AMIGA?

11 December 2005, 14:13	#10
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,145	a good alternative is MiraWizArc and it's free !

11 December 2005, 22:34	#14
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 31 Posts: 2,201	[quote=jobro]Yet another vaporware. Oh well what can one expect when it comes to AMIGA. Is there any coders active who code new programs for the AMIGA?[/QUOTE Check Aminet.net before saying stuff like this man ... The Amiga scene is small but there sure is still some very skilled and active coders left.. Thanks Dr. Bong, will test later tonight

12 December 2005, 08:15	#15
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	has anyone figured how to use the x-arc crk? it does not work for me.... __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

12 December 2005, 18:25	#16
DrBong HOL / AMR Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 1,469	@Keropi It works fine here for me on A4000/060. Have you tried it on a real Amiga? Have you checked that all the files are where they should be by following the manual installation steps in the docs? Anyone else tried installing it and had problems like Keropi?

12 December 2005, 20:03	#17
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12 December 2005, 20:13	#18
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	nope, bad Bamiga2002! we are looking for progs to create arcs.... __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

12 December 2005, 20:15	#19
Bamiga2002 Blizzard PPC club rocks! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 35 Posts: 2,687	Ah, ok then . I use DOPUS to create them... __________________ A1200 BlizzardPPC 603e+ 366Mhz 060/64Mhz - D-Box tower Mediator TX \|Voodoo3\|10MB Ethernet\|Nec USB\| - OS3.9 (BoingBag powered) CD32 - original joypad & honeybee - join the Blizzard PPC club! \| PPC-Warp3D games speed boost! \| BlizzardPPC+Mediator+Voodoo setup guide (PDF - feedback appreciated...) join the Finnish Amiga Users group me @ amigamap.com Project Rutinski band website - rock music with punk attitude!

12 December 2005, 21:05	#20
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	LOL hey the crack works now, it appears it needs a reboot to activate ??? anyway it works, thanx DrBong! (again) __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

12 December 2005, 21:54	#21
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,699	MiraWizarc as already mentioned by Frog. The best choice is a configured Dopus like Bamiga highlighted, as it uses shell directly and doesn't suffer the little bugs I've found in other GUI archivers (see here http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/bugs.htm ) __________________ Live Long and Procrastinate A500 Batman Pack Classic Workbench

12 December 2005, 22:01	#22
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	bloodwych, give a try with AnArchiver + it's update, it's nice.... you will not find any bugs as long as you use the button to create an archive and not write its name/location manually... also x-arc seems really really nice... __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

12 December 2005, 23:07	#23
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,699	Cool, I'll give them a try. __________________ Live Long and Procrastinate A500 Batman Pack Classic Workbench

04 January 2006, 19:51	#25
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	yep, installed, reboot, crack, reboot, all OK __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

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