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Old 01 November 2005, 23:16   #21
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WOW!!!! The performance for Great Giana Sisters and Quick & Silva is really impressive!!!!!
Great Idea!!!!
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Old 02 November 2005, 12:59   #22
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Excellent idea !
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Old 02 November 2005, 13:59   #23
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Mission 2 to 13 are fully recorded ^^.

@ironclaw, i will upload missions by missions because it's too heavy to upload.

for one mission fully completed -> 100-150 mb depending of the number of phases.
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Old 02 November 2005, 15:04   #24
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It's a pitty that the files are so big. I loved other time attack movies. The ZSnes movies were only a few hundred Kbytes and contained a recording of the joystick movements or something, so the game played itself in ZSnes before your eyes.
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Old 02 November 2005, 15:37   #25
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It's encoded thru Xvid, and there is sound ^^, it's hard because the encoding
low down fps from 50 to 18.8, so it's even harder to finish.

I wait for Ironclaw answer before uploading the stuff. You'll see how to defeat the game very easily ^^.
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Old 02 November 2005, 18:23   #26
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woody57:

Thank you for your advice! Advices is always welcome

I will check through the options you gave me. So far looks most promising, or what
do you think? We don't really want to have passwords on the files.

But i will still recommend users to download with bittorent.

dlfrsilver:

You should try the H 264 codec. Its rocks! I used it on my latest game and 35 minutes of recording took only 70MB. And with superb quality

RCK: Thanks!

Rochabian: Thanks!

Ironclaw: I own you on all Amiga platforms! And you know it!

To all: More movies is online, and more is comming!
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Old 02 November 2005, 18:52   #27
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what the heck ??? you mean i have to do again mission 2 to 13 ???

are you kidding ?? Do you know how much i spent on recording these ??

GRRRRRR

Plus i should have that the frame rate of the game must take in account, as
the more images it pushes on screen the more it pushes in your movie file.

I will take a look on H-264 anyway, but these things was to say at first on your
site, it lacks parameters to begin encoding ^^
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Old 02 November 2005, 20:10   #28
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what the heck ??? you mean i have to do again mission 2 to 13 ???

are you kidding ?? Do you know how much i spent on recording these ??

GRRRRRR

Plus i should have that the frame rate of the game must take in account, as
the more images it pushes on screen the more it pushes in your movie file.

I will take a look on H-264 anyway, but these things was to say at first on your
site, it lacks parameters to begin encoding ^^
Don't worry, i just explained for another guy in our forums:
http://www.recordedamigagames.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=13&forum=7

"but these things was to say at first on your site, it lacks parameters to begin encoding"

I know! but thats Ironclaws job, i hope he will do a better faq/guide soon.
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Old 02 November 2005, 20:28   #29
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If there is interest and I get some time I'll convert the game runs to DVDR and combine with my Flashback DVD project and make it free to everyone!

If the site admins are interested in such a merger of their baby with mine!
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Old 02 November 2005, 22:05   #30
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Hi all.... a quick reply:


I recommend everyone to record with either DivX, Xvid och Microsoft Video 1. DivX is a fast codec and most people shouldnt experience any slow down while playing and recording with it.

No one should ever record with the H264 codec, if you do, we cant edit those files, they become protected or something.. so please ONLY use DivX, Xvid or MV1.

When recording you will of course get large files. Before uploading them to us, just recompress them with decent quality with any of the above codecs EXCEPT H264. That codec should only be used by us in the final product as it gives great quality and low file sizes.

Always record in 50fps..... and if recompressing the movies before uploading them to us, do not change the framrate... if the files we recieve are in standard Amiga 50 fps, the movies we put on the page is 50fps.


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what the heck ??? you mean i have to do again mission 2 to 13 ???

are you kidding ?? Do you know how much i spent on recording these ??

GRRRRRR
Hipoosios was wrong, no one should record with the H264 codec... Record with the 3 ones mentioned above..... so no need to replay those levels..... what you have recorded so far is ok, as long as they are not in H264.



I will make a major update to the recording guide in FAQ.... tomorrow
http://recordedamigagames.ath.cx/mod...d=3#recording2

If anyone have any suggestions on what to include, please post them.

The first thing I will add to the guide is to recommend using Divx,Xvid or Microsoft video.. and the also recomend people to recompress the files with decent quality before uploading them...




Hope the above answers/comments helped...

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Old 02 November 2005, 22:56   #31
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yep here is my settings -> use Xvid, go in the configure menu, click on CALC....
then remove 665550 (665m) by the value 12000 (12mb) and set the sound on PCM 86kbits/sec. Now remove scanlines, aspect ratio, and you'll get 18.8 fps when recording
your movies. More if you have a fast fast processor ^^
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I dont do anything, just set audio to PCM, 44100, 16bit stereo, no compression cuz it slows down the game play. And for video I usually use Divx as it has a fast compression, BIG files but fast compression... and have the quality on 1000 kbps so no slow down what so ever for me... so I always record in 50fps and good quality....

always play in 320x240/320x256 and stuff...

When I record with xvid i set Target Quantizer to 1.. best quality... I have never ever touched anything else



so you mean your movie will be in 18.8 fps?.. that kinda sucks... wont it be jerky then?.... never mind.. ...
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If anyone have any suggestions on what to include, please post them.
I think you should add that the they could use quicksave/quickload between levels ingame. That way, they can record when they want and take pauses. Also if they die, they can just quickload . We would get good recordings then. I know they do that in other recordings too, like on a c64 site i've seen. This wouldnt be much cheating I guess, just a way to make great speedrun movies.

I used this on all my recordings.. then finished, i just appending all video files together with the virtualdub software.
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HI hipoonios in my earlier posting about free upload /download services the only point of mentioning passwords was in the case of sites who didn't want their links stolen by using the sites URL as a password.

You don't have to add further encryption beyond RAR or ZIP compresion for split files etc.

As with the reason to RAR them in the first place is you can add 5-10% recovery file & verification into the archive so as to reduce the need to reupload open files that become fragmented during download

Which when it comes to files that are extremly large {over 500mb} their exhists a PAR2 recovery file program that makes self repairing but small in size recovery files to allow multi part files to be fixed if they don't extract from the original copies held online.
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Old 03 November 2005, 01:54   #35
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nope the video plays at 50 fps but when recording i have 18.8 fps

BTW : i have fully recorded Jim power with no cheats, all 5 levels plus bosses with
some lifes loss, but really neat one with end sequence included, all weight 1,2 gb !!!

and i have put down the encoding rate (2,5mo / sec)
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I`d highly recommend anyone to use a MJpeg Codec for recording, way faster than divx, better quality but bigger files. Plus it can be edited easily(no delta-frames), after that do a high-quality 2pass Conversion to divX/Xvid/whatever codec to archive better compression.

PS. Any bets we will see a SOTB1 or 2 Speedrun ?
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dlfrsilver: I can't wait to see you Jim Power and Cannon Fodders recordings :-) But 1.2gb is big!!
try compress the xvid's little more.

Npl: i will test that codec when i got time

PS. Any bets we will see a SOTB1 or 2 Speedrun ?

Not by me. I have never been a fan of the SOTB series, but i hope someone else do it :-)
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ok, i'll make a full recording of shadow of the beast 1 and 2 ^^
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ok, i'll make a full recording of shadow of the beast 1 and 2 ^^
I implied a Speedrun with no cheats Good luck, for the next few decades or so... .

@hipoonios: Just realized the free MJpeg Codec from ffdshow aint working for me, I`m using a commercial one to record TV, it will add a logo if its not registred.
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we talk about no cheats like i did for Jim power ^^
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