Death Trap & Idea Games - Page 2

StingRay · 07 February 2009, 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Mission accomplished. If you haven't changed anything else the slave should be bug-free now.

I didn't

This bug got introduced when I moved the trainer offsets from the Patchlist to "standard code" to make them selectable with the CUSTOMxx tooltypes.

Note to self: Next time just copy/paste. :P

Anyway, I'll create the install package now, thanks for all your testing.

Retro-Nerd · 07 February 2009, 17:42

You're welcome. Now back to non-crap games.

dlfrsilver · 07 February 2009, 18:33

i think there is another checksum to remove. There is way too many enemies at a time
that get on you..... gods syndrom to me........

Retro-Nerd · 07 February 2009, 18:40

Could be true. I find it unplayable without the energy trainer. Never tried the disk version.

StingRay · 07 February 2009, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

i think there is another checksum to remove. There is way too many enemies at a time
that get on you..... gods syndrom to me........

Before posting such things you should check the original game on an A500. It behaves exactly the same!

Retro-Nerd · 07 February 2009, 21:46

Then it's really an unfair game, pah!

StingRay · 07 February 2009, 22:35

It indeed is, it was the reason why it got pretty bad reviews back in the day.

(Excerpt from the PowerPlay Review (46%): "Die Zaubersprüche schläfern sogar den neugierigsten Spieler ein: Nur wenig Motivation entsteht, sich durch die unfairen Situationen zu hexen.")

Retro-Nerd · 07 February 2009, 22:43

Yeah, i know these review. This game had potential, but the programmer couldn't find a good balance. Too hard, too boring. Every level is a carbon copy of the level before, only the graphic differs.

Edit: And once again highly overrated by some mags. 86% from "Joystick"... no comment.

StingRay · 07 February 2009, 22:53

Yeah, it could have been a nice game if it wouldn't be so unfair and the levels less boring. I guess good old Lord Blitter made it that hard/unfair to disguise the fact that the levels are all very boring. Final verdict: A lot of wasted potential

Galahad/FLT · 08 February 2009, 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

Yeah, it could have been a nice game if it wouldn't be so unfair and the levels less boring. I guess good old Lord Blitter made it that hard/unfair to disguise the fact that the levels are all very boring. Final verdict: A lot of wasted potential

more than anything, it showed that Rastan was indeed perfectly possible on the Amiga, shame Lord Blitter wasted his talent on this shite fest of a game.

StingRay · 08 February 2009, 18:58

The installer for this game is now available on the WHDLoad page. Another one bites the dust.

Galahad/FLT · 08 February 2009, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

The installer for this game is now available on the WHDLoad page. Another one bites the dust.

Before you get any bright ideas, Treasure Trap is mine!

StingRay · 08 February 2009, 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Before you get any bright ideas, Treasure Trap is mine!

I admit I had a look at it as I was asked by Dlfrsilver to check the game. But don't worry, won't steal it from you!

Should you ever get bored with it let me know though.

Retro-Nerd · 08 February 2009, 19:43

Mmh, i remember an adventure with bad mouse controls and a Space simulation/strategy game, a German Medievil strategy game....

StingRay · 08 February 2009, 19:56

So do I

Plus a few more! =)

dlfrsilver · 10 February 2009, 07:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Before you get any bright ideas, Treasure Trap is mine!

Galahad, since Stingray has started, can you please let him finish to code
the slave ?

Thanks !

haynor · 10 February 2009, 07:54

I've tested first slave only, so far so good but there is strange problem probabaly in game itself. Sometimes when I hit in the air main character it hangs for while in air and I cannot move or even fall for some time. I don't remember if this was in disk version also.

Galahad/FLT · 10 February 2009, 08:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Galahad, since Stingray has started, can you please let him finish to code
the slave ?

Thanks !

Non!

As with Death Trap, I got quite a bit further than simply thinking about doing them.

dlfrsilver · 10 February 2009, 08:40

well ok then

StingRay · 10 February 2009, 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Galahad, since Stingray has started, can you please let him finish to code
the slave ?

Thanks !

Just to avoid any misunderstanding, I do not plan to do any further work on Treasure Trap as I've already told you. It's Galahad's WIP slave and it's his decision when and how he'll finish it. And it's perfectly fine that way!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Non!

As with Death Trap, I got quite a bit further than simply thinking about doing them.

Don't worry, I don't intend to steal the slave from you!

Doing the Death Trap slave was really something that wasn't planned at all (blame it on the "Cobra X-Rom" thingie :P) and I perfectly understand that you want to finish the Treasure Trap installer yourself. It would be the same for me.

I do offer my help though, just in case you get stuck/bored. Not more, not less. =)

Quote:

Originally Posted by haynor

I've tested first slave only, so far so good but there is strange problem probabaly in game itself. Sometimes when I hit in the air main character it hangs for while in air and I cannot move or even fall for some time. I don't remember if this was in disk version also.

Please use the final released slave (can be found on the whdload site). Also, I doubt that this has anything to do with the slave itself, and I never experienced such problem myself. Just out of curiosity, what's your system config?

clenched · 12 February 2009, 17:32

I've read on two of the magazine reviews on Death Trap about the evil guy hiding five magic scrolls that the hero is to recover, but I see no indication of finding ANY of them. I open all the red chests and either get another weapon or puff of smoke. Sometimes the number beside weapon icon changes to a "C" (presumably a curse).
I'd like to test slave on my Amiga but since it's in an unheated part of the house, I need to know how to locate these scrolls before I attempt. My search for a manual turned up empty.

StingRay · 12 February 2009, 19:28

I don't think you find any scrolls in the game. You reach then end of a level -> 1 scroll found I suppose (game has 5 levels). I completed the 1st and 2nd level and I didn't find any scroll.

dlfrsilver · 12 February 2009, 20:02

i will post soon the game manual (i own a new/sealed copy of death trap).

clenched · 14 February 2009, 00:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by haynor

I've tested first slave only, so far so good but there is strange problem probabaly in game itself. Sometimes when I hit in the air main character it hangs for while in air and I cannot move or even fall for some time. I don't remember if this was in disk version also.

I think this freezing is a result of spell cast by nearby mage on Abi, and not a problem with game. It happened to me too and I simply cast Unfreeze Abi spell and he broke free. I tested slave on my Amiga 500, GVPA530 ec030 and encountered no problems.

07 February 2009, 18:33	#43
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-ExtADF Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	i think there is another checksum to remove. There is way too many enemies at a time that get on you..... gods syndrom to me........ __________________ Denis

07 February 2009, 22:43	#48
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	Yeah, i know these review. This game had potential, but the programmer couldn't find a good balance. Too hard, too boring. Every level is a carbon copy of the level before, only the graphic differs. Edit: And once again highly overrated by some mags. 86% from "Joystick"... no comment. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 07 February 2009 at 22:51.

08 February 2009, 19:43	#54
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	Mmh, i remember an adventure with bad mouse controls and a Space simulation/strategy game, a German Medievil strategy game.... Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 08 February 2009 at 19:49.

10 February 2009, 08:40	#59
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-ExtADF Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	well ok then __________________ Denis

12 February 2009, 20:02	#63
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-ExtADF Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	i will post soon the game manual (i own a new/sealed copy of death trap). __________________ Denis

07 February 2009, 17:42	#42
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	You're welcome. Now back to non-crap games.

07 February 2009, 18:40	#44
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	Could be true. I find it unplayable without the energy trainer. Never tried the disk version.

07 February 2009, 21:46	#46
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	Then it's really an unfair game, pah!

07 February 2009, 22:35	#47
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 4,547	It indeed is, it was the reason why it got pretty bad reviews back in the day. (Excerpt from the PowerPlay Review (46%): "Die Zaubersprüche schläfern sogar den neugierigsten Spieler ein: Nur wenig Motivation entsteht, sich durch die unfairen Situationen zu hexen.")

07 February 2009, 22:53	#49
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 4,547	Yeah, it could have been a nice game if it wouldn't be so unfair and the levels less boring. I guess good old Lord Blitter made it that hard/unfair to disguise the fact that the levels are all very boring. Final verdict: A lot of wasted potential

08 February 2009, 18:58	#51
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 4,547	The installer for this game is now available on the WHDLoad page. Another one bites the dust.

08 February 2009, 19:56	#55
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 4,547	So do I Plus a few more! =)

10 February 2009, 07:54	#57
haynor retro maniac Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tarnobrzeg/Poland Age: 34 Posts: 1,327	I've tested first slave only, so far so good but there is strange problem probabaly in game itself. Sometimes when I hit in the air main character it hangs for while in air and I cannot move or even fall for some time. I don't remember if this was in disk version also.

12 February 2009, 17:32	#61
clenched Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gainesville U.S.A. Posts: 298	I've read on two of the magazine reviews on Death Trap about the evil guy hiding five magic scrolls that the hero is to recover, but I see no indication of finding ANY of them. I open all the red chests and either get another weapon or puff of smoke. Sometimes the number beside weapon icon changes to a "C" (presumably a curse). I'd like to test slave on my Amiga but since it's in an unheated part of the house, I need to know how to locate these scrolls before I attempt. My search for a manual turned up empty.

12 February 2009, 19:28	#62
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 4,547	I don't think you find any scrolls in the game. You reach then end of a level -> 1 scroll found I suppose (game has 5 levels). I completed the 1st and 2nd level and I didn't find any scroll.

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