Why is Moonstone so rare and wanted?

Smiley · 11 July 2005, 17:09

Ok so I bought a copy of this game froma bootsale for £1 knowing it was quite rare. Then I got home and noticed one went on ebay for £60!

I put mine on ebay and its already gone to £20 with 6 days left!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ADME:B:LC:UK:1

I want to know why its so rare and why so many people want it for a high price. I mean it cant be that rare, I usually always see them on ebay, selling for high prices.

Heck I havnt even played on the game yet. So could someone please give me somebackground info on the game and why people want it so much?

Thanks

11 July 2005, 17:39

For some more information about Moonstone visit:

http://www.moonstonetavern.co.uk/

bippym · 11 July 2005, 19:44

It's a rare game in Germany as it was banned due to the high gore level!!

As for why it is so popular outside Germany I have no idea!

fiath · 11 July 2005, 22:32

It is probably being bought by Germans

Big-Byte · 11 July 2005, 23:08

On an unrelated note, how rare / sought after is the Phazer Light gun for Amiga? I got one this weekend. I can only think of POW and Capone that works with it - but are there any other games?

Effy · 11 July 2005, 23:17

Smiley1635 : the current highest bidder is Danish, not German ...

IFW · 12 July 2005, 02:45

Anyone bidding on it outside of Germany thinks - or read somehwere, possibly on another ebay auction

- it is rare, while it is not.
It is part of the amiga collector folklore I guess, as many people are not aware of location based rarity of things

Anyway, good luck with it

Effy · 12 July 2005, 09:06

I don´t think Smiley1635 minds the high bids

keropi · 12 July 2005, 10:03

I think it is so rare because it is for a commodore amiag computer...
" Amiga Game **Moonstone** @RARE!!@ (amiag, commodore) "

LOL

Smiley · 12 July 2005, 13:08

Keropi, I added in amiag because this is a common mispelling of amiga, so if anyone types that typo my item will show up, commodore is added for same reason just to get more hits. And I added @RARE!!@ for a laugh in an attempt to get some stupid people to buy it.

I type amiag all the time when im typing quickly...

Ironclaw · 12 July 2005, 14:51

I once accidently typed "amigaroxxorsyeahyeah"

Galaxy · 13 July 2005, 04:55

Isn't pretty much everything amiga-related on ebare *RARE* !?

Actually it really annoys me how pretty much everything is listed as rare so the ignorant buyer waste's their money

Adeptus · 13 July 2005, 05:28

...and the non-ignorant misses out on a good deal

StarEye · 13 July 2005, 10:02

Well, how many ignorants buys amiga games these days? I'm pretty certain that at least 85% of the buyers know what they're buying.

Effy · 13 July 2005, 10:26

I also think some buyers feel Ebay like a big game where they can win if their bids are high enough

And the auction is now on 29 GBP and still four days to go

Smiley · 13 July 2005, 12:12

Thats a lot of profit for me

Ironclaw · 13 July 2005, 13:28

I don't own an Amiga since 2 years back, I gave it to my sister. I rather use Winuae as it is faster, has lots of chip and fast mem etc.

But I would really like to have the original of Moonstone as I love that game, and as I'm getting even more closer to the game now when I'm working on a Moonstone Sequal. I don't bother bidding on it, but if someone would stand next to me selling the game or live not that far away, I could easy offer 50 EUR for it, or more.

Smiley · 13 July 2005, 13:33

Ive just played the game and ive got to say I hate it! I find it boring and very difficult.

Ironclaw · 13 July 2005, 17:03

WTF??!, are you serious? It owns!

Smiley · 13 July 2005, 17:39

Dull as dishwater! You just pleb around, I thought the opening sequence was good though! But you just kind of shunt around a small area, attempting to hit stuff with your sword. Its bad, really bad!

Marcuz · 13 July 2005, 21:46

to me it was fairly original and different at the time, but also there were lots of original games that i didn't know. it's a great game, one of the few i have finished without cheat

Ironclaw · 13 July 2005, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiley1635

Ive just played the game and ive got to say I hate it! I find it boring and very difficult.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiley1635

Dull as dishwater! You just pleb around, I thought the opening sequence was good though! But you just kind of shunt around a small area, attempting to hit stuff with your sword. Its bad, really bad!

No offense, but here is what I think. I think you suck at playing these sort of games. You started the game up and played for a few minutes, and as you sucked, you died fast over and over again - which of course explains why you hate the game.

OR, you are one of those non-retrogame fans that only like great up to date PC games with 32 bits graphics and requires at least 512mb to run.

However, if you like old games and dont go by graphics (I think the graphics in MS are gorgeous, love pixels), but by playability and feeling, Moonstone rules. I suggest you watch the recorded video of the game on my page.

Moonstone rules!

At the age of 16, I had no problem completing this game, didn't use the cheat.

Smiley · 13 July 2005, 22:53

Nope, I like both new games (Battlefield 2

) and the old games (apidya)

Quite frankly this game is nothing special, and I do suck at it but that doesnt change the fact that you shunt around a small screen hitting a pixelated rat.

Marcuz · 13 July 2005, 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironclaw

I suggest you watch the recorded video of the game on my page.

if one don't like a game or, as you put it, it sucks at it and so he don't like it, why in the world should he watch your recording of you playing the game for hours? is it some strange kind of pr0n?

Ironclaw · 13 July 2005, 23:53

I only suggested him to watch the movie of Moonstone so he could see some of the coolest things in the game, which he missed by only playing a few minutes and against the most boring enemy, those jumpers. What I mean is that he hasnt seen anything and didn't give the game a decent chance.

Smiley · 14 July 2005, 00:07

I did give the game decent chance, i fought some ogres, charging animals etc, repetetive gameplay.

Marcuz · 14 July 2005, 00:20

if you ask to the rats, the repetivity bring them pleasure. but ok, you both, i'm not arguing.

StarEye · 14 July 2005, 11:14

And Apidiya doesn't have repetative gameplay???

You're absolutely right to have your own opinion about Moonstone, but calling it "nothing special" is just plain wrong. This game is VERY special, there's still no game out there quite like it. Besides, the best part of the game is the multiplayer aspect, and the feeling of competition to be the knight who saved the world.

And it's not THAT hard. Once you learn all the moves, and the strategy to beat the different kinds of monsters, it's fairly easy to complete. And of course, getting the better equipment also makes the game more enjoyable.

Still, you're right to have your own opinion, but I think you should give it some more time before forming one. It's a tough game to get into, and you'll die fairly quickly the first time you play it. But once you know the basics and survive long enough to get some better weapons and armor and upgrade your stats (which you do by winning the fights and spend your poolpoints - or whatever they're called, can't remember - to upgrade your stats) it's not so hard to finish the game after a few tries. And by having four people play one knight each, you won't have to worry about the black knights either.

Ironclaw · 14 July 2005, 23:28

StarEye is 101% correct.

Smiley · 15 July 2005, 10:28

Who honestly cares? Its only a game :/

lopos2000 · 15 July 2005, 14:29

@Smiley1635
You asked 'Why is Moonstone so rare and wanted?'. Now you got your answer.

Eny- · 15 July 2005, 14:42

Moonstone is great and I agree with StarEye also

keropi · 15 July 2005, 15:00

I like moonstone... now with the whdload version that fixes some horrible bugs...

Npl · 15 July 2005, 19:41

I remember playing that Game whole nights with 2 Friends.

Moonstone

Though it DID always crash late in the Game ( and we still played it over and over - speaks alot for the game ) and I cant remember finishing it once.

Maybe alot people want to buy Moonstone because they think the crashes came from cracks/bad copies ? I know I was lookin for it exactly because of that

Effy · 15 July 2005, 20:03

Then somebody better make a version with lots of trainers

Smiley · 15 July 2005, 21:39

Hmmm, still not my cup of tea. I can see why some poeple would enjoy it. Anyway I cant play on it again because its packaged up in bubble wrap. :/

Ironclaw · 15 July 2005, 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiley1635

Hmmm, still not my cup of tea. I can see why some poeple would enjoy it. Anyway I cant play on it again because its packaged up in bubble wrap. :/

If you have a PC there is something called Winuae and adfs.

bippym · 15 July 2005, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironclaw

No offense, but here is what I think. I think you suck at playing these sort of games. You started the game up and played for a few minutes, and as you sucked, you died fast over and over again - which of course explains why you hate the game.

OR, you are one of those non-retrogame fans that only like great up to date PC games with 32 bits graphics and requires at least 512mb to run.

However, if you like old games and dont go by graphics (I think the graphics in MS are gorgeous, love pixels), but by playability and feeling, Moonstone rules. I suggest you watch the recorded video of the game on my page.

Moonstone rules!

At the age of 16, I had no problem completing this game, didn't use the cheat.

If he doesn't like the game then he don't like it.. simple!!

Don't make assumptions that everybody is the same. Just because you like the game doesn't mean others have too!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironclaw

If you have a PC there is something called Winuae and adfs.

He doesn't like the game, he doesn't want to play it on Amiga or on his PC with WinUAE and ADF's

Ironclaw · 15 July 2005, 23:21

He said "Anyway I cant play on it again because its packaged up in bubble wrap" so I said "If you have a PC there is something called Winuae and adfs.".. so your post doesnt sound right "He doesn't like the game, he doesn't want to play it on Amiga or on his PC with WinUAE and ADF's".

bippym · 15 July 2005, 23:26

My post makes perfect sense!

Smiley stated on various occasions throughout this thread that he doesn't like moonstone!

He stated he can't play again because it is bubble wrapped, but seeing as he doesn't like the game it's simple enough to summise that he doesn't want to play it with WinUAE either!

Also if he so wanted he could hunt down the PC verison of the game and play it using Dosbox... do you think he wants to?

11 July 2005, 17:09	#1
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,346	Why is Moonstone so rare and wanted? Ok so I bought a copy of this game froma bootsale for £1 knowing it was quite rare. Then I got home and noticed one went on ebay for £60! I put mine on ebay and its already gone to £20 with 6 days left! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ADME:B:LC:UK:1 I want to know why its so rare and why so many people want it for a high price. I mean it cant be that rare, I usually always see them on ebay, selling for high prices. Heck I havnt even played on the game yet. So could someone please give me somebackground info on the game and why people want it so much? Thanks

11 July 2005, 22:32	#4
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 35 Posts: 1,925	It is probably being bought by Germans __________________ S.P.S. - The Software Preservation Society http://www.softpres.org

11 July 2005, 23:08	#5
Big-Byte Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: UK Posts: 728	On an unrelated note, how rare / sought after is the Phazer Light gun for Amiga? I got one this weekend. I can only think of POW and Capone that works with it - but are there any other games? __________________ Big-Byte

11 July 2005, 23:17	#6
Effy http://www.amigaclub.be/ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Belgium Age: 45 Posts: 676	Smiley1635 : the current highest bidder is Danish, not German ... __________________ My new toy besides my Amiga's

12 July 2005, 09:06	#8
Effy http://www.amigaclub.be/ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Belgium Age: 45 Posts: 676	I don´t think Smiley1635 minds the high bids __________________ My new toy besides my Amiga's

11 July 2005, 17:39	#2
Ewoud Posts: n/a	For some more information about Moonstone visit: http://www.moonstonetavern.co.uk/

11 July 2005, 19:44	#3
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,141	It's a rare game in Germany as it was banned due to the high gore level!! As for why it is so popular outside Germany I have no idea!

12 July 2005, 02:45	#7
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 41 Posts: 1,680	Anyone bidding on it outside of Germany thinks - or read somehwere, possibly on another ebay auction - it is rare, while it is not. It is part of the amiga collector folklore I guess, as many people are not aware of location based rarity of things Anyway, good luck with it

12 July 2005, 10:03	#9
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	I think it is so rare because it is for a commodore amiag computer... " Amiga Game Moonstone @RARE!!@ (amiag, commodore) " LOL __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

12 July 2005, 13:08	#10
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,346	Keropi, I added in amiag because this is a common mispelling of amiga, so if anyone types that typo my item will show up, commodore is added for same reason just to get more hits. And I added @RARE!!@ for a laugh in an attempt to get some stupid people to buy it. I type amiag all the time when im typing quickly...

12 July 2005, 14:51	#11
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 34 Posts: 3,315	I once accidently typed "amigaroxxorsyeahyeah"

13 July 2005, 04:55	#12
Galaxy Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 35 Posts: 1,418	Isn't pretty much everything amiga-related on ebare RARE !? Actually it really annoys me how pretty much everything is listed as rare so the ignorant buyer waste's their money

13 July 2005, 05:28	#13
Adeptus epun umop ap!sdn Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 285	...and the non-ignorant misses out on a good deal __________________ "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - Thomas Watson, Chairman of IBM, 1943 "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." - Ken Olson, founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981

13 July 2005, 10:02	#14
StarEye Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Norway Age: 35 Posts: 978	Well, how many ignorants buys amiga games these days? I'm pretty certain that at least 85% of the buyers know what they're buying.

13 July 2005, 10:26	#15
Effy http://www.amigaclub.be/ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Belgium Age: 45 Posts: 676	I also think some buyers feel Ebay like a big game where they can win if their bids are high enough And the auction is now on 29 GBP and still four days to go __________________ My new toy besides my Amiga's

13 July 2005, 12:12	#16
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,346	Thats a lot of profit for me

13 July 2005, 13:28	#17
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 34 Posts: 3,315	I don't own an Amiga since 2 years back, I gave it to my sister. I rather use Winuae as it is faster, has lots of chip and fast mem etc. But I would really like to have the original of Moonstone as I love that game, and as I'm getting even more closer to the game now when I'm working on a Moonstone Sequal. I don't bother bidding on it, but if someone would stand next to me selling the game or live not that far away, I could easy offer 50 EUR for it, or more.

13 July 2005, 13:33	#18
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,346	Ive just played the game and ive got to say I hate it! I find it boring and very difficult.

13 July 2005, 17:03	#19
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 34 Posts: 3,315	WTF??!, are you serious? It owns!

13 July 2005, 17:39	#20
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,346	Dull as dishwater! You just pleb around, I thought the opening sequence was good though! But you just kind of shunt around a small area, attempting to hit stuff with your sword. Its bad, really bad!

13 July 2005, 21:46	#21
Marcuz Wurk??? Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 37 Posts: 4,742	to me it was fairly original and different at the time, but also there were lots of original games that i didn't know. it's a great game, one of the few i have finished without cheat __________________ Large paintings and installations Commercial illustration

13 July 2005, 22:53	#23
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,346	Nope, I like both new games (Battlefield 2 ) and the old games (apidya) Quite frankly this game is nothing special, and I do suck at it but that doesnt change the fact that you shunt around a small screen hitting a pixelated rat.

13 July 2005, 23:53	#25
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 34 Posts: 3,315	I only suggested him to watch the movie of Moonstone so he could see some of the coolest things in the game, which he missed by only playing a few minutes and against the most boring enemy, those jumpers. What I mean is that he hasnt seen anything and didn't give the game a decent chance.

14 July 2005, 00:07	#26
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,346	I did give the game decent chance, i fought some ogres, charging animals etc, repetetive gameplay.

14 July 2005, 00:20	#27
Marcuz Wurk??? Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 37 Posts: 4,742	if you ask to the rats, the repetivity bring them pleasure. but ok, you both, i'm not arguing. __________________ Large paintings and installations Commercial illustration

14 July 2005, 11:14	#28
StarEye Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Norway Age: 35 Posts: 978	And Apidiya doesn't have repetative gameplay??? You're absolutely right to have your own opinion about Moonstone, but calling it "nothing special" is just plain wrong. This game is VERY special, there's still no game out there quite like it. Besides, the best part of the game is the multiplayer aspect, and the feeling of competition to be the knight who saved the world. And it's not THAT hard. Once you learn all the moves, and the strategy to beat the different kinds of monsters, it's fairly easy to complete. And of course, getting the better equipment also makes the game more enjoyable. Still, you're right to have your own opinion, but I think you should give it some more time before forming one. It's a tough game to get into, and you'll die fairly quickly the first time you play it. But once you know the basics and survive long enough to get some better weapons and armor and upgrade your stats (which you do by winning the fights and spend your poolpoints - or whatever they're called, can't remember - to upgrade your stats) it's not so hard to finish the game after a few tries. And by having four people play one knight each, you won't have to worry about the black knights either. Last edited by StarEye; 14 July 2005 at 11:30.

14 July 2005, 23:28	#29
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 34 Posts: 3,315	StarEye is 101% correct.

15 July 2005, 10:28	#30
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,346	Who honestly cares? Its only a game :/

15 July 2005, 14:29	#31
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	@Smiley1635 You asked 'Why is Moonstone so rare and wanted?'. Now you got your answer.

15 July 2005, 14:42	#32
Eny- R3tr0 G4m3r Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lisbon - Portugal Age: 33 Posts: 308	Moonstone is great and I agree with StarEye also

15 July 2005, 15:00	#33
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	I like moonstone... now with the whdload version that fixes some horrible bugs... __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

15 July 2005, 19:41	#34
Npl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Vienna / Austria Age: 33 Posts: 257	I remember playing that Game whole nights with 2 Friends. Moonstone Though it DID always crash late in the Game ( and we still played it over and over - speaks alot for the game ) and I cant remember finishing it once. Maybe alot people want to buy Moonstone because they think the crashes came from cracks/bad copies ? I know I was lookin for it exactly because of that

15 July 2005, 20:03	#35
Effy http://www.amigaclub.be/ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Belgium Age: 45 Posts: 676	Then somebody better make a version with lots of trainers __________________ My new toy besides my Amiga's

15 July 2005, 21:39	#36
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,346	Hmmm, still not my cup of tea. I can see why some poeple would enjoy it. Anyway I cant play on it again because its packaged up in bubble wrap. :/

15 July 2005, 23:21	#39
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 34 Posts: 3,315	He said "Anyway I cant play on it again because its packaged up in bubble wrap" so I said "If you have a PC there is something called Winuae and adfs.".. so your post doesnt sound right "He doesn't like the game, he doesn't want to play it on Amiga or on his PC with WinUAE and ADF's".