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Old 28 December 2005, 03:36   #21
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I'm afraid I have to recommend against buying this.

I ordered mine way back in October, and was quoted 2-6 weeks for shipping, so plenty of time before Christmas.

Well, it still hasn't arrived. They claim to have sent it but I have my doubts.
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Old 19 April 2006, 14:19   #22
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Can I just ask the opinions of people who've read this book?

I've just finished it, and towards the end found a couple of odd things.

i) the author reckoned that falling RAM prices meant that all A500's shipped in Europe with 1Mb of "graphics memory"

ii) at the end of one chapter there's a quote from someone saying something like "the amiga was just so far ahead of it's time Commodore didn't know how to handle it". Then another person is quoted immediately after says "the amiga was good but it was too little too late". Why the contradiction? How could the Amiga ever be called too little too late!

So I was just wondering what other people think - is the book largely accurate apart from the two points I've just mentioned?

It certainly is a fascinating insight into the company, especially from a point of view of how much of a mess they were in even in the glory days of the Amiga when they should have been making a fortune
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"Too little too late" is probably about A1200, "ahead of time" on the other is most likely about a1000/a500.
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"Too little too late" is probably about A1200, "ahead of time" on the other is most likely about a1000/a500.
Sorry I should have said they were both apparently talking about the A500 era. But you could well be right there - it sounds like the author got something mixed up and maybe one of the quotes he got was actually talking about the A1200.
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Far ahead of it's time probably refers especially to A1000 era (1985) through A500+A2000 (1987) and including Amiga 3000 (no 256 colours) (1990) - Note that as a teenage computer game player at this time, it was around here that PCs with their 256 colour VGA and 8bit sound blaster and 80386 CPUs started to get on an even keel with the amiga, so the amiga 3000 was just not enough of a leap like the a1000 was.

Too little too late would be A4000 (no 16mill colours, no 16bit sound - should even have been in A3000) (1992) onwards. Though need to read the book when I get home to be sure what the author is referring to.

Falling ram prices.... doubling of memory adds a lot to the price, especially in the good old days.

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Falling ram prices.... doubling of memory adds a lot to the price, especially in the good old days.
What I was getting at with that point is that it's factually incorrect, European A500's did not ship with 1Mb of RAM at launch, I clearly remember mine having 512k.


So no-one else read this book then?


Another question - is it possible to get hold of the "deathbed vigil" video anywhere other than the Amiga Forever pack, I don't really want to buy that because I already bought the connectivity software off them.
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Wasn't the A500+ the one with 1MB chip ram (graphics memory)? Introduced a bit later after the original A500. I thought it was released in europe also?
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Another question - is it possible to get hold of the "deathbed vigil" video anywhere other than the Amiga Forever pack, I don't really want to buy that because I already bought the connectivity software off them.
I happen to have an Amiga Forever CD at home although it's probably not the latest version. Not that I have ever used it...

I'll see if there is the "deathbed vigil" video on there
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I ordered my Deathbed Vigil DVD direct from Dave Haynie.

http://www.jersey.net/~dhaynie/dbv/sales.html

As for the book, it is very good. Although I feel that the 1989-1995 years were rushed through. (IIRC Commodore UK held out until 1995?).
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I ordered my Deathbed Vigil DVD direct from Dave Haynie.

http://www.jersey.net/~dhaynie/dbv/sales.html

As for the book, it is very good. Although I feel that the 1989-1995 years were rushed through. (IIRC Commodore UK held out until 1995?).
Sounds good!

I definitely agree the last bit was rushed. It took something like six or seven chapters to get to the VIC-20! Suddenly the last short chapter or two covers the A500+, the A1200, the CDTV and the CD23. But yeah it's a pretty good read, although it makes you angry reading about the idiocy of the people who eventually brought the company down
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