Ebay

bippym · 05 April 2005, 22:12

Do you guys object to me putting the demo up on ebay?

keropi · 06 April 2005, 07:38

I really, really really, do not have an opinion on this one.... I suck

LocalH · 06 April 2005, 15:37

I don't object. Just hope that noone else copies any discs you sell, and starts selling them.

kriz · 06 April 2005, 15:44

why sell it, when its free ???

Peanutuk · 06 April 2005, 16:12

If you plan to sell it on ebay, register the copyright of the compilation and the related artwork under ebay's Vero program. Then if anyone copies the compilation and attempts to sell it on ebay you can have the auctions swiftly removed.

Peanutuk · 06 April 2005, 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriz

why sell it, when its free ???

I guess it's only free if you get it from someone for free, its actual production, in terms of man hours and physical costs, is far from negligable.

How much are you thinking of selling it for Bippy?

bippym · 06 April 2005, 17:53

Quote:

How much are you thinking of selling it for Bippy?

Exactly same price you get it off me for!

£5 for UK
£6.5 for abroad

It'll be abuy it now auction

Quote:

why sell it, when its free ???

Its free to download, but the materials, wear and tear on my system, electricity, postage & packing, physical man hours to copy etc.. all costs me money!!

mr_0rga5m · 06 April 2005, 18:24

15 Votes so far .. 4 for 'I Object' .. I wonder who and why

bippym · 06 April 2005, 18:35

Yeah I should have made this a public poll..

Can those who have voted "I Object" please be courteus enoght to explain why?

lloyd · 06 April 2005, 20:00

I don't have a problem Mr Bippy, don't see you making a million on it

kriz · 06 April 2005, 20:06

well when you sell it like this i dont object, thats 3 that have objected then

I even want to buy from you !!

Belgarath · 06 April 2005, 20:49

I'd only object if you sold it as -L@@K- RARE AMIGA DEMO DVD -L@@K-

Avanze · 06 April 2005, 21:45

I don't see why not.

bippym · 06 April 2005, 22:25

Okay I'm gonna set it up for sale on Ebay

Anyone on here wanting it please email me : BippyM_at_gmail.com (replace _at_ with an @)

Peanutuk · 07 April 2005, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

Exactly same price you get it off me for!

I didn't pay you anything.

mr_0rga5m · 07 April 2005, 01:18

Nor me !!

Paid Nowt .. Got Nowt .. Awesome !

HOL2001 · 07 April 2005, 01:38

Sorry..

But Ebay sucks...

07 April 2005, 02:07

I voted "I object" because I didn't like the idea of free demos being sold around. Of course you spent a great deal of effort on this but I think I'll like this more as a non commercial project. I don't really "object" it's what the options say.

woody57 · 07 April 2005, 02:31

I know well the months you spent compiling this one Bippy and if your going to distribute it via EBAY you have more right to do so than those who just rip someone elses compilation.

Because you can't spend time burning these and then just give them away for free , Peanuts suguestion of registering it under the Vero Programme is going to be the only way , to curb others doing just that and sticking their own title on it , therefore you are now cursed to forever spending so many hours a week protecting your baby

Its that harsh gut feeling that pxscroll brings into reality , the fact that demo's have been mostly distributed free in one form or another [allowing for the fact of the various compiltion CD's/BBS & floppy disks over the years from one source or another

]

But your project is a DVD 5 X the content of a CD being distributed at a lot less than CD examples , so its very clear profit is NOT your motive , but the a natural wish to ensure this collection is distributed to as wide an audience as possible at a fair price . BEFORE some lowlife aquires a copy through p2p , ftp or torrents etc and sets themselves up distributing a less than perfect eddition that disgraces your hard research and efforts .

So from me goodluck and hopefully it will in itself reach those who you first started the project for

sarek2k · 07 April 2005, 03:04

I say sure sell it on Ebay you've done all the work m8! as long as cost is reasonable i have no problem with it being on ebay compared to the rest of the scammers out on ebay. Lets say Akin to PD librarys of old ie distribution costs, putting it alltogether etc even demo's on disk were a couple of quid plus post a dvd is bigger better and worth a bit more in anyone's book! And as you are the compiler of the project and not a seller of a seller then fair play to you m8! Go for it and good luck

Eny- · 07 April 2005, 12:46

I was one who objected.

But i did not object you earning some money over your hard work and great project, but for the widespread of it.

Is that bad? Is not if we think that this will remain in "fans" hands, but the reality is that in a month or two, we will be watching L@@K- RARE AMIGA DEMO DVD -L@@K auctions...

Other than that, go for it mate

bippym · 07 April 2005, 14:23

Okay I'll look into registering this with Vero (or whatever it is called) before I post.

I don't intend on making any money out of this, and any money I do make (which will be pennies believe me!!) will be put back into my PC/amiga's etc for the sequels etc..

This is gonna get spread sooner or later anyway, and if anyone wants they can get it directly off me for free (ftp).. just ask

I might as well let those who want the proper printed disc and high-res covers (I use 120gsm+ paper) can at least have that opportunity!

BlaCkAdDa · 08 April 2005, 05:43

bippy is this a video dvd or a hybrid with some video and a lot of demo images in pc readable format?

bippym · 08 April 2005, 10:22

Its DVD Video (For standalones or PowerDVD) etc..

Anyway I put a few copies on Ebay last night to see how it goes!

Joe Maroni · 08 April 2005, 12:40

can i get one...??

bippym · 08 April 2005, 20:18

Erm email me or buy off ebay :P

Joe Maroni · 08 April 2005, 22:55

don´t be confused...one was bought by me...

mr_0rga5m · 09 April 2005, 01:42

eh ?

I R Confused ...

View Poll Results: Who objects??
I don't object, feel free to Ebay it	23	79.31%
I object - Don't sell it on Ebay	6	20.69%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

05 April 2005, 22:12	#1
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,140	Ebay Do you guys object to me putting the demo up on ebay?

06 April 2005, 07:38	#2
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	I really, really really, do not have an opinion on this one.... I suck __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

06 April 2005, 16:12	#5
Peanutuk Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The North, UK Age: 34 Posts: 1,067	If you plan to sell it on ebay, register the copyright of the compilation and the related artwork under ebay's Vero program. Then if anyone copies the compilation and attempts to sell it on ebay you can have the auctions swiftly removed. __________________ T-shirts

06 April 2005, 18:24	#8
mr_0rga5m Tik Gora :D Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Round yo momma's Posts: 1,273	15 Votes so far .. 4 for 'I Object' .. I wonder who and why __________________ BF++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+. +++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. "Bill Gates is Microsoft. His wife has no comment." [16:38:45] <THB> why be hatin our cgi:irc brothers? [16:44:38] * THBollock has joined #abime.net [16:44:54] <THBollock> :) [16:45:39] * THBollock has quit IRC ("lol") [16:50:25] <THB> oh thats why Catflap <-- Imposter!! <cATFLAP> <-- The real deal.

06 April 2005, 15:37	#3
LocalH Amiga user since 1990 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kingsport, TN / USA Age: 33 Posts: 233	I don't object. Just hope that noone else copies any discs you sell, and starts selling them.

06 April 2005, 15:44	#4
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 31 Posts: 2,201	why sell it, when its free ???

06 April 2005, 18:35	#9
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,140	Yeah I should have made this a public poll.. Can those who have voted "I Object" please be courteus enoght to explain why?

06 April 2005, 20:00	#10
lloyd Mehh :D Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bristol, SW UK Age: 50 Posts: 242	I don't have a problem Mr Bippy, don't see you making a million on it

06 April 2005, 20:06	#11
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 31 Posts: 2,201	well when you sell it like this i dont object, thats 3 that have objected then I even want to buy from you !!

06 April 2005, 20:49	#12
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Here Posts: 2,135	I'd only object if you sold it as -L@@K- RARE AMIGA DEMO DVD -L@@K-

06 April 2005, 21:45	#13
Avanze Amiga User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Humberside, UK Age: 36 Posts: 448	I don't see why not.

06 April 2005, 22:25	#14
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,140	Okay I'm gonna set it up for sale on Ebay Anyone on here wanting it please email me : BippyM_at_gmail.com (replace _at_ with an @)

07 April 2005, 01:18	#16
mr_0rga5m Tik Gora :D Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Round yo momma's Posts: 1,273	Nor me !! Paid Nowt .. Got Nowt .. Awesome ! __________________ BF++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+. +++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. "Bill Gates is Microsoft. His wife has no comment." [16:38:45] <THB> why be hatin our cgi:irc brothers? [16:44:38] * THBollock has joined #abime.net [16:44:54] <THBollock> :) [16:45:39] * THBollock has quit IRC ("lol") [16:50:25] <THB> oh thats why Catflap <-- Imposter!! <cATFLAP> <-- The real deal.

07 April 2005, 01:38	#17
HOL2001 Amigamaniac Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Arnsberg / Germany Age: 39 Posts: 386	Sorry.. But Ebay sucks... __________________ My system: A1200 with Blizzard 1230 IV + FPU (50Mhz), Kick 3.1, 64MB FastRAM, 80GB HDD, PCMCIA Adapter, OS 3.5, WHDLoad... Visit our website (German): http://www.doreco.de

07 April 2005, 02:07	#18
oldpx Posts: n/a	I voted "I object" because I didn't like the idea of free demos being sold around. Of course you spent a great deal of effort on this but I think I'll like this more as a non commercial project. I don't really "object" it's what the options say.

07 April 2005, 02:31	#19
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Age: 90 Posts: 801	I know well the months you spent compiling this one Bippy and if your going to distribute it via EBAY you have more right to do so than those who just rip someone elses compilation. Because you can't spend time burning these and then just give them away for free , Peanuts suguestion of registering it under the Vero Programme is going to be the only way , to curb others doing just that and sticking their own title on it , therefore you are now cursed to forever spending so many hours a week protecting your baby Its that harsh gut feeling that pxscroll brings into reality , the fact that demo's have been mostly distributed free in one form or another [allowing for the fact of the various compiltion CD's/BBS & floppy disks over the years from one source or another ] But your project is a DVD 5 X the content of a CD being distributed at a lot less than CD examples , so its very clear profit is NOT your motive , but the a natural wish to ensure this collection is distributed to as wide an audience as possible at a fair price . BEFORE some lowlife aquires a copy through p2p , ftp or torrents etc and sets themselves up distributing a less than perfect eddition that disgraces your hard research and efforts . So from me goodluck and hopefully it will in itself reach those who you first started the project for Last edited by woody57; 07 April 2005 at 02:36.

07 April 2005, 03:04	#20
sarek2k E.A.B Addict and Proud Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 45 Posts: 543	I say sure sell it on Ebay you've done all the work m8! as long as cost is reasonable i have no problem with it being on ebay compared to the rest of the scammers out on ebay. Lets say Akin to PD librarys of old ie distribution costs, putting it alltogether etc even demo's on disk were a couple of quid plus post a dvd is bigger better and worth a bit more in anyone's book! And as you are the compiler of the project and not a seller of a seller then fair play to you m8! Go for it and good luck __________________ Sarek2k

07 April 2005, 12:46	#21
Eny- R3tr0 G4m3r Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lisbon - Portugal Age: 33 Posts: 308	I was one who objected. But i did not object you earning some money over your hard work and great project, but for the widespread of it. Is that bad? Is not if we think that this will remain in "fans" hands, but the reality is that in a month or two, we will be watching L@@K- RARE AMIGA DEMO DVD -L@@K auctions... Other than that, go for it mate

07 April 2005, 14:23	#22
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,140	Okay I'll look into registering this with Vero (or whatever it is called) before I post. I don't intend on making any money out of this, and any money I do make (which will be pennies believe me!!) will be put back into my PC/amiga's etc for the sequels etc.. This is gonna get spread sooner or later anyway, and if anyone wants they can get it directly off me for free (ftp).. just ask I might as well let those who want the proper printed disc and high-res covers (I use 120gsm+ paper) can at least have that opportunity!

08 April 2005, 05:43	#23
BlaCkAdDa Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Adelaide / Australia Age: 36 Posts: 211	bippy is this a video dvd or a hybrid with some video and a lot of demo images in pc readable format?

08 April 2005, 10:22	#24
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,140	Its DVD Video (For standalones or PowerDVD) etc.. Anyway I put a few copies on Ebay last night to see how it goes!

08 April 2005, 12:40	#25
Joe Maroni Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Age: 33 Posts: 1,056	can i get one...??

08 April 2005, 20:18	#26
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,140	Erm email me or buy off ebay :P

08 April 2005, 22:55	#27
Joe Maroni Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Age: 33 Posts: 1,056	don´t be confused...one was bought by me... Last edited by Joe Maroni; 09 April 2005 at 08:27.

09 April 2005, 01:42	#28
mr_0rga5m Tik Gora :D Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Round yo momma's Posts: 1,273	eh ? I R Confused ... __________________ BF++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+. +++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. "Bill Gates is Microsoft. His wife has no comment." [16:38:45] <THB> why be hatin our cgi:irc brothers? [16:44:38] * THBollock has joined #abime.net [16:44:54] <THBollock> :) [16:45:39] * THBollock has quit IRC ("lol") [16:50:25] <THB> oh thats why Catflap <-- Imposter!! <cATFLAP> <-- The real deal.

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