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Old 09 December 2004, 09:13   #1
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How come we don't have a nice mag site like this one?

http://www.atarimagazines.com/

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Old 09 December 2004, 09:53   #2
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Eeek!

Sorry, just that kinda scared me.

There's AIM and Amiga History Guide off the top of my head.
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Old 09 December 2004, 10:40   #3
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Cool, thanks but I think that http://www.atarimagazines.com/ is more than just an index of mags.

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Old 09 December 2004, 10:59   #4
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Old 09 December 2004, 17:29   #5
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It surprises me that with all the hard work and dedication Amiga users put into projects like HOL, APoV, WHDLoad etc, there isnt a project to preserve complete magazines.

For me, magazines are almost as much a part of the whole Amiga experience as the games.

This is surely a worthy cause.
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Old 09 December 2004, 19:38   #6
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Neither of those sites are of any interest to me as they arent in English.
I was referring to mags like Amiga Power, CU Amiga, Amiga Format etc.

As for contributing, firstly I dont have any of my old Amiga mags and secondly I dont own a working scanner.

Do me a favour in future Kodoichi, reply to ANYONE else but me eh? I cant fuc*ing stand you or your replies
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Old 09 December 2004, 19:44   #7
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Come on, that's the whole content of the site:
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ed2k://|file|Amiga.DOS.1990-08.zip|46138493|CB317037363A7A99FAB93B1A40880558|/
ed2k://|file|Amiga.DOS.1990-10.zip|62900420|CE9B77C324C6BF7AC056D0994C869795|/
ed2k://|file|Amiga.DOS.1991-03.zip|98646423|7CA2730C816BD9D80869FFA498890167|/
ed2k://|file|Amiga.DOS.1991-09.zip|50664727|1D7B77B16C365EF9B3BAEDD1677B223C|/
ed2k://|file|Amiga.Games.1993-04.zip|37698798|79E0E803329A299D3FDC752ECB0258EE|/
ed2k://|file|Amiga.Games.1993-06.[m.55,.56].zip|35194398|388BED0E8E013562821C1799748D450E|/
ed2k://|file|Amiga.Games.1996-02.zip|37163362|19DEAD0FD886240444E8CBDDDFB358B7|/
ed2k://|file|Amiga.Games.1996-07.zip|38090740|9C131F84EAA72E2F7ED49BA4283FFEE9|/
ed2k://|file|Club.Nintendo.1991-06.zip|22107053|DB23976EDDB86E3EAD618CE22A229874|/
ed2k://|file|Club.Nintendo.1992-03.zip|12860631|AF830E7C842CB505A05330303C200244|/
ed2k://|file|Club.Nintendo.1992-06.zip|12952000|BD9020991215AB94516F939D96916E87|/
ed2k://|file|Club.Nintendo.1994-02.zip|15052011|49114725AE29FDBA57B4CD4E2A7B0E0C|/
So this is what's left from the idea of creating a legal site with scanned magazines...?

Fortunately, I was able to get the permission from two publishers. I also have enough webspace and a suitable domain. Sometime in 2005 I'll start to set up a legal site, but very likely with scans of german magazines only.
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Old 09 December 2004, 19:57   #8
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Who are these two publishers and what are the likely titles of the magazines?
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Old 09 December 2004, 20:21   #9
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Maintaining a site with Amiga reviews can be very unrewarding. You constantly have to keep in mind you are doing it for your own sake or the Amiga community in general. It takes lots of time to scan in the pages (or, with my site, OCR them to HTML), the paperquality of the mags goes quickly downhill and the number of visitors you get on your site is less than 10 people a day.
For my site, my purpose is having OCRed ALL Amiga-gamesreviews of the magazines I own, although if I stumble upon a scanned Amiga review on the Net I convert it to HTML. At the moment I think I've covered 80% (over 2000 reviews) of my magazinecollection.

@Peanutuk,
Didn't you start an initiative putting Amiga Power reviews online? I think it was great.
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So this is what's left from the idea of creating a legal site with scanned magazines...?
Scanning a mag of 140 pages takes around 5-6 hours of repetitive work, besides real-life, some light Tosec contribution, throwing away and selling mangas, school, get some fresh air, converting old VHS tapes to Mpeg/DivX, buying food, going to the toilet and lots of other things.

I came up with the idea, I realized it even if it's not quite what I had in mind and now somebody - probably the one that's currently downloading an issue and will add this one to his own site - is complaining. Hooray.

Since a certain guy closed the GAEB, I lost sight of people that could contribute or help me out otherwise.

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Fortunately, I was able to get the permission from two publishers. I also have enough webspace and a suitable domain. Sometime in 2005 I'll start to set up a legal site, but very likely with scans of german magazines only.
So, have you started scanning them already? Or do they shove you all the issues in PDF-format up your ass?
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@Tim I did and I have been re-working it with the help of Woody. The main problem is space (as scans can be rather large) and time. It takes a bloody age to scan in a 130+ page magazine and it is extremely tedious to say the very least. I usually have to do it with a drink in one hand and the football on so I don't think too much about it.

I also know what you mean by motivation. Obviously I have the magazines, so the only reward is to make them available for others, but when, as you say, few people visit on a daily basis and bad-users attempt to destroy bandwith by leeching, motivation can dwindle.

Anyway I have continued to work on the site with the intention of making it more than just a scan site so the scanned content isn't the be-all-and-end-all. Unfortunaterly though I'm run of my feet at the moment to the extent that I'm currently pencilling in time to poo, so I can't say when it'll be up. Sooner rather than later though.
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Scanning a mag of 140 pages takes around 5-6 hours of repetitive work, besides real-life, some light Tosec contribution, throwing away and selling mangas, school, get some fresh air, converting old VHS tapes to Mpeg/DivX, buying food, going to the toilet and lots of other things. <...>
I didn't talk about any of these things... I know how much work it is. I was talking about that site, which is only a collection of eDonkey links and that's just a poor leftover of the original idea.

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So, have you started scanning them already?
Of course. I've scanned 23 magazines so far. (~2500 pages, 1.3 GB)

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Old 09 December 2004, 21:26   #13
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do you still scan the old mags...???

maybe if you like some help you could get it from me if i had a working scanner...
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Yes, I'm still scanning. I don't need help right now but possibly when the site goes online.
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Old 09 December 2004, 21:43   #15
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Who are these two publishers and what are the likely titles of the magazines?
Can you answer the question?
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Old 09 December 2004, 22:29   #16
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@Kodoichi - Moderate your language.
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Old 09 December 2004, 22:38   #17
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Start a poll to lett the Amiga magazines enter Hol

In english... as most are in "ig bin ine berliner" or something like that
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Old 09 December 2004, 23:18   #18
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First you state there isn't one project to preserve magazines, and when somebody comes up with URLs to prove the opposite, you disapprove of it because it doesn't comply to what you we're actually looking for without telling us beforehand?
Yes this is true. I didnt know of these projects and I didnt word my original post very well I admit. However, as per usual your reply was sarcastic and annoying with a sneering tone.

So this thread doesnt degenerate any further I will send YOU the rest of what I was going to write in a PM.
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Old 10 December 2004, 01:55   #19
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This is a useful thread but if it degenerates into name calling it is hardly going to encourage anybody (including myself) into investing a great deal of time and effort into providing something for the community.

Let's stop the name calling and bitching and spend our time thinking about how to best implement our ideas.
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I have a free scanner I can donate to someone for this effort!
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