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Old 28 June 2004, 10:57   #1
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WinUAEX V3 is released (Read on )

This one supports CD32 and CDTV !!!!!

Cant find the damn thing though
Here's the Specs !!!

WinUAEX Amiga Emulator port for XBox v3

what's New:

- CD32/CDTV support - Plays real CD32/CDTV cds and ISO files
(playing CD32 ISO files does not support WAV/MP3 CDDA tracks at this time)

- Added "Extended ROM" to configuration screen

- Samba, Relax, Netplay re-implemented

- Increased max JIT cache size to 8MB

- Increased max Chipmem size to 8MB - WHDLoad games work now

- Added drive click sounds option "Floppy Volume" on game configuration screen

- Fixed bug with display of FastRAM. 1MB was displayed as 0MB and vice-versa.

- Screen tearing was not actually fixed in v2. Now it is.

- Added "Force PAL50" mode in Video Configuration section (off by default)

- Added "Disable Flicker Filter" to Video Configuration section (on by default)

- Create blank ADF/HDF files from In Game Options menu

- ADZ support

- Fixed all special/international character-conversion to be non-DEBUG FAT-X compatible
(Workbench enthusiasts)

- Screen size/position saved for each game

- Added more fine-grain CPU speed options.
0 = Max, 1 = Real, 2 = 100% ... 33 = 0%

- Added "Reset Amiga" function to In-Game Options menu

- Fixed memory bug when reading ISO9660 files

- Added default text-viewing dir. Set it via the default directories section.

- Text file settings (fixed width, text width) are maintained each time
you go back and forth from the menu

- When you go up a directory, the cursor is positioned over the directory you just
exited.

- Because of changes to the structure of configuration file, you'll have to
reconfigure all your games.

- Graphics filters were added back in, but only one or two of them could be
used without slowing down the game (on even the simplest of games.)
I removed them again so that the memory could be put to better use.



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Important Notes
===============

To get CD32 emulation working, you need two ROM files to be placed in the
D:\ROMS directory. They are the CD32 version of the Kickstart 3.1 ROM and the
CD32 extended ROM image. They need to be called :

D:\ROMS\KICKCD32.ROM
D:\ROMS\EXT_CD32.ROM

The default configuration that appears for CD32 games should work in most
cases.

To play a real CD, put the CD into the XBox DVDRom drive and select
"Launch Inserted Media" from the Main Menu.

To play an ISO file, select it as you would normally select an ADF game.

CD32/CDTV emulation is a little flaky. On rare occasions, the bootup screen will not
appear. Also, the CDDA tracks will sometimes fail to play.

Playing MP3/WAV files with ISO CD32 tracks is not currently supported.

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Old 28 June 2004, 14:15   #2
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Whoohoo!

There is a website that it can be downloaded from but the name escapes me atm... I will PM you when I get home.

Im still getting to grips with v2. I find the menus a bit confusing but managed to get a few games to run.
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Old 28 June 2004, 15:45   #3
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Whoohoo!

There is a website that it can be downloaded from but the name escapes me atm... I will PM you when I get home.

Im still getting to grips with v2. I find the menus a bit confusing but managed to get a few games to run.
I would appreciate that ..... thanks
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Yeah PM us ALL the website please
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Yeah know that one but we want one where U can download the PROGRAM not the NFO file!!!!!!!!!
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I take it then, that the binary for this (and I guess any other non-Linux emu for XBox) is technically illegal? Just wondered...
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Q: Where are the downloads? What's wrong with your website?

A: Distributing XBEs created with the Microsoft XDK is bad, m'kay? Search the net for them.
It is "bad"?
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Yes, its bad.. There is one site though that has them which I will PM people about tonight if I got time.
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Yeah know that one but we want one where U can download the PROGRAM not the NFO file!!!!!!!!!
If I told you that Efnet was a good irc network and a channel simular in name to that site may exist then i`m sure you would know what to do next. If not, read the FAQ on that site...........
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I was thinking of putting it on my site but I decided to put this picture instead.



http://www.flask.myby.co.uk/Amiga/

Click on the link on that page for a funny picture.
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Yet another release and am trying get CD32 games to work, wild
Looks like I won't have to setup my CD32 afterall!
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Old 29 June 2004, 01:27   #14
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I was thinking of putting it on my site but I decided to put this picture instead.



http://www.flask.myby.co.uk/Amiga/

Click on the link on that page for a funny picture.

HOW!! can you put such a disgusting picture on your site !!!!!!
I have never tried that angle before..... Not with a sinclair spectrum anyway
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Old 29 June 2004, 02:03   #15
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It is "bad"?
Ok this is to do with Winuae even if it doesnt look like it at first !!!

Question !!!! ok technically its illigal but tell me.....Modders who mod xboxs complained on forums that the plug holes on the motherboards were filled with solder making it awkward to mod!!!!

Next release of Xbox found microsoft had left the solder out !!!
Next release made it easier to Mod and again the solder was still left out!!!

In fact if they did away with the holes it would be almost impossible to mod the box and it could shut down most sites selling mods and making emulator ports overnight !!!

My point is EMU's like WINUAEX..MAME....XSNESX and mods sells Xboxs and Mr Gates knows it as he could end all this tomorrow !!!

The only thing illigal about Winuaex is what it was ported with...The Winuae used is free !!!! ( Thank god for Winuae )

I wonder how many people Mr gates has put inside for making an emulator port ??????
My guess is not many...I have a hard time condoning these Emulators as i dont see them doing Microsoft any harm PLUS!!! WinUAE on Xbox...Priceless!!! (And lets not forget...it is our own loveable WinUAE )

One day we will be able to say......Remember xbox....I can play it on my WinUAE V.17000.735

Look out Toni......you got a lot of work ahead

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I hope this illegality issue doesn't make microsoft track the thing back to the source, to the original winuae and cause problems for Toni.
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I hope this illegality issue doesn't make microsoft track the thing back to the source, to the original winuae and cause problems for Toni.
Oh god no !! Winuae is perfectly Legal.....So is Winuaex really....Its just that it used the XDK to port it thats the only legal issue .... You can buy legitimate Emus for Xbox....My guess is a licence is all thats needed to go commercial !!!!

If not.....We will point them to Brian King ...And we will hide Toni
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Mr Gates can't be THAT happy to have people buying xboxes just to play emus though. They lose money on every xbox sold and make it back on games (that was the plan anyway) so people only playing emus and xbox media player are losing him money.
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Old 29 June 2004, 15:51   #19
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They were first sold at nearly $500 He made a profit alright and now with mass production even at todays prices hes probably making more than ever.

Its what you can do with an xbox that makes the choice when choosing a console ....no one buys one just to play EMU's you can use a PC for that its just a good bonus !!!

Of course if Bill gates Didnt make any money from sales of XBOX he wouldnt be stupid enough to make XBOX2 would he ????? But he is
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http://www.1up.com/article2/0,4364,1519194,00.asp

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Microsoft has freely admitted that it will continue to lose money on this first generation of the Xbox for the life of the console, but it seems that the bleeding has slowed.
And yes people do buy xboxes just for emu's and the like. I think Antiriad pretty much did.
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@sychro

All current consoles are "loss leaders", even the GBA. Publishers pay a large chunk of money per-game to the console maker for the privelege of making games for it. It has been this was since the NES. Standard practice in the console gaming market I guess.

However, "buying a console to loose the company money as I am not going to buy any games" does not work either, simply because console popularity is measured by console sales. Pretty stupid that, but still... I guess it gives a good eye to know what is in circulation.

Microsoft wants to build a name in the gaming market, it may even be that they never intended to make any money with the XBox. At the moment MS loses money from console sales, and the games sales are *not* making up for that loss. Just look at their financial reports - truely hilarious - they are loosing money from everything they do, (phones, pda's, etc.) except from two things. Windows and Office. Actually I am not even sure about Windows. But of course, they do make a crazy amount of money with Office.

Pretty obviously Sony make a killing with the Playstation brand since their game sales pull back all the money lost from the console + plenty more. Microsoft just want to muscle in on this, and maybe they will do that with the XBox 2. It seems much of the "layman" gaming press (i.e. stuff on TV) I see is very pro (biased?) towards XBox - and they preach the the people who count - the masses - not the gaming hardcore, which are very much a minortity still.
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Actually Nintendo make money on Gamecubes even at the crazy price they sell them for now.
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And yes people do buy xboxes just for emu's and the like. I think Antiriad pretty much did.
I have never seen that link so looks like your correct ( My apologies to you )

But please !!! Ok the odd fanatic may buy an Xbox JUST to play EMU's but the usual story is .......Shall i buy a PS2 or an Xbox.....Answer....You gotta get an Xbox look what it can do blah!! blah!! blah!!!
Isnt that how you talk people round I know i do !!!

Fiath !!!
What you say makes perfect sense and i didnt know game makers paid for the privilage ( i just never trust a rich man who who says hes not making money on a project but continues to do it )

So looks like i was wrong again so my apolgies to you as well

So after admitting losing this one im getting worried im wandering off the Amiga scene theme and dont want to get a slap from the Mods so i will admit loss gracefully and try kill this particular subject ....But thanks its been educational for me
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Hey don't worry about it, it is quite a bizarre business model. Certainly not an obvious one. Another examples are:

o Printers, they (at least the budget ones) are also sold at a loss. But you get severly milked when buying cartridges.
o Phones (in the UK anyway)
o Razors where the actual product gains the manafacturer no money, it is the replacement blades that get the money rolling.
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Yeah no worries synchro, I'm sure we've all said stuff that could be said to be 'a bit false' I know I have many times, probably more than I should have done.

Yeah it is true that not a lot of people buy xboxes purely for emulation/movies, in fact I bet VERY few do. The weird thing is I haven't actually played an xbox game on my xbox for ages now.

@ Fiath. Well I never knew that about printers, although it does seem to make more sense now. I once bought a 3rd party printer cartridge for my printer and it completely fecked up my printer. Damn them.
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LOL!! to be honest 99% of my time is playing EMU's rather than the games i must admit

I got sucked into the printer thing a while back..An Oliveti from PCWorld...£35...Ink lasted a day.....refill was £25.....( single cart jobby ) And to really take the piss PcWorld said they didnt do the refills.....They had it back within 30 minutes I now stick with Epsom

Great for printing WinUAE labels ( just to keep the post on the amiga theme )
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My xbox has been taken over by the other half so 90% of the time its used as a DVD or divx movieplayer.

The other 10% can be divided 50/50 between emus and games.

However this week its been nothing but emu's as Im replaying all my classic Amiga games.
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Cool, sounds as though winuaex works well then BB. I've gotta get it installed this weekend (on my new HUGE 20gb HDD )
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Ive been addicted to R-Type all week. I prefer the Amiga version to the arcade version (I have Mame on my xbox too)..

I also took great delight in decapitating my partner as I challenged her to a game of barbarian!


btw.. if you are going to put mame on your hard drive then be warned the roms take 8 gig! (you cant actually have all the roms in the rom folder either as the max number of files per directory is 4096 and mame has over 5000!)
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I've already got mame running on my xbox with pretty much all the games I want on it, which at the moment is around 50 games! A lot of the games don't lend themselves well to emulation because you pretty much have infinite lives which is boring. I will download some more soon, including some decent shooters because I do like a nice shmup.

Gotta update my Snes/Megadrive emus and the games as well... also.. you had any luck with the N64 emulators?

Any chance you could do a very quick list of the best emus for MD/Snes/N64/MS and maybe a few more? There a BBC micro emulator for it? That would be cool if there was, I haven't played a BBC game in years!
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I have been buying the new mag Retro Gamer.......Its really brilliant....The CD's are great !!!

Take a look

GO HERE !!!!
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I subscribe to that Mag and got the free Namco joystick thingy - which I havent opened. Its a very interesting read. I also like the retro section in GamesTM


Ive got the N64 emulator to work pretty well.. not full framerate by a long way though. Ive got the release which is basically the 3 main N64 emulators stuck together in one package.

Emulators Ive actually tried:

Mame v0.79 (has a later version come out?), N64, Amiga, Snes and Megadrive.

Daphne (laserdisc) emulator is supposed to be good. I might give that a go next.
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Any chance you could do a very quick list of the best emus for MD/Snes/N64/MS and maybe a few more? There a BBC micro emulator for it? That would be cool if there was, I haven't played a BBC game in years!
MD = NeoGenesis ported by Xport from Gens
MS = SMSPlusX ported by Xport from SMSPlus
Snes = xSnes9x ported by Lantus from Snes9x
N64 = Surreal64 ported by Lantus and oDD from Project64, 1964 and UltraHLE

I think there is a BBC emu but I may have dreamt it.

And not strictly an emulator`s but special mention must go to ScummVMx and ExultX (ULTIMA 7!?!?!?!??! , erm sorry but I love that game)
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next step, v4 is there. take a look at xbox-scene
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WinUAEX Amiga Emulator port for XBox v4

What's New:

- Fixed a bug where WinUAEX would crash if you tried to load an ISO file before
running a real CD game.

- Option to select your own flicker filter level 0-5 (default is 5 - max enabled)

- Changed max FastRAM to 8MB

- Added option for up to 1MB SlowRAM

- ADZ-as-ZIP and ADZ-as-GZIP should both work now (as well as normal .GZ)

- Added 720x480 and 720x576 modes to Video Configuration menu

- Fixed screenshot size to trim the edges of blank space

- Repositioned LEDs so the screen doesn't have to be horribly askew to see them

- Added option to hide filename extensions - find it on General Settings menu

- Added option to always bring up save/load state menu on General Settings menu
If this option is turned on, then whenever you press the in-game button-combo
to save/load a state it will display the load/save state menu from which you
can select the state.
If the option is off, then the normal default behavior of immediately
loading/saving the current state slot will occur.

- Screenshot saved with each save state

- Fixed bug where if you ejected a disk from In-Game options menu and then immediately
selected "Reset Amiga", it would act as though the disk was not ejected.

- Added option to configure text screen size/position for viewing text files

- If you select the same text file to view you will be placed back at the position
you left it.

- Added Controller -> Joypad Mappings -> UI Mappings option for "Text Browser"
Assign a key-combo to this function and when invoked, it will take you back
to the last text file you were browsing at the position you left it.
This makes it much easier to jump back and forth from game <-> doc.
Note - you must first manually select a file to browse from the "Game Utilities"
menu off of the "In Game Options" menu.
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Groovy, I noticed .adz's in zips weren't working and some of my CD32 isos were working, not that I have that many
Hopefully more will run now
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