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Old 20 May 2004, 13:46   #21
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Jim:

In most countries reverse engineering is completely legal, and creating another system that does the same thing is completely legal. If you get "inside info" or obtain information on the system in any illegal way, then the product you create is also illegal.

See Sony vs. bleem! case.

By the same argument, it is not legal to release Kickstart ROM's - because they the property of their respective owners, it is nothing you created. However, if you created an Amiga emulator you could reverse engineer the system in such a way that it would not need the ROMs (i.e. to find out what they are needed for, and simulate those calls) and thus your Amiga emulator could still be completely legal. Exactly this happened with bleem! and it was proven 100% legal.

Take ScummVM, it implements a reverse engineered version of the game engine created by Lucas Arts. Since it contains no material from the original games it is legal (assuming you didn't get any inside info, etc - something difficult to prove either way).

About Coca-Cola. How would you reverse engineer that? Even if you could, how would you be able to prove that you did not just take the recipe which was published in the Sun newspaper a few years ago?
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Old 20 May 2004, 23:50   #22
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Fuck I didnt get to download it!!!!!!!!!
Say Ak, isn't it about time you checked out the Page Beginning With Z?
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Old 21 May 2004, 08:31   #23
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Just ask Pepsico. Inc.
But Pepsi Cola don't sound like Coca-Cola, the packaging (stuff you see) don't look like Coca-Cola and it certainly don't taste like Coca-Cola. Jim's Joca Jola was gonna look just like it, taste like it and sound like it. But I wasn't going to be buying up stocks of Coca-Cola and repackaging it. I was gonna make it from the ground up by using the usual ingredients of sugar, nitric acid, drain cleaner and stuff.

This Another World clone looks like Another World, plays like Another World. Therefor it infringes the copyright of Another World. In the United States "fair use" laws might allow someone who owns DOS original to rip their files to play this new version, but in most countries it would be considered copyright violation.

But ethically it is wrong to be freely distributing a rip-off/clone/clever open source version of a currently (or about to be) active game, unless you are dealing with mega-corporations.
 
Old 21 May 2004, 08:32   #24
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Thanx MethodGit ! now, any1 has the GBA version of it ? Someone must of have downloaded the thing ...
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Old 21 May 2004, 11:41   #25
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DOS Version

http://www.dosgamesonline.com/spellen/anotherworld.zip


MacOS Version

http://www.ewtoo.org/~matt/forums/raw-0.1.1-osx.zip
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Thanx MethodGit ! now, any1 has the GBA version of it ? Someone must of have downloaded the thing ...
Z0n3d!!!111
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Old 21 May 2004, 16:31   #27
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Say, thanks for preserving the Mac port as well! I wonder if we can preserve all the raw files originally available from the homepage (both 0.1.0 and 0.1.1)? Did you download everything else?
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Old 21 May 2004, 18:16   #28
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MethodGit - You certainly rule ! How did you get it ? I tried Google and every possible result... but nothing. I even tried translating some French stuff on that Forum where it was supposed to be - to no avail

Really nice ! You deserve a beer
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Old 21 May 2004, 18:33   #29
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Ive got this game for sale for the SNES atm on ebay..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW

1 day left.... (I have other snes games listed too)
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Old 21 May 2004, 19:45   #30
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I wanted the OS X Version, thankss manic!
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And it's gone... I saw it for DC also. Would have liked to check that out.
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/rawdc.shtml
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Old 21 May 2004, 19:55   #32
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I wanted the OS X Version, thankss manic!
I see. Thought you still had your trusty Win98 box with yas?
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MethodGit - You certainly rule ! How did you get it ? I tried Google and every possible result... but nothing. I even tried translating some French stuff on that Forum where it was supposed to be - to no avail
Let's just say that I was lucky to grab it off the site before Mr. Chahi came storming in to, as MCA of Beastie Boys once lyriced, "disrupt the whole scene". I just hope Chahi does something regarding a re-release this year - it wouldn't be fair to leave this raw project rotting in a dormant manner for almost an eternity.

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Hmmmm, what beer would you suggest?
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Old 21 May 2004, 21:22   #34
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MethodGit: Nice to see you were fast enough on the sites to be able to grab them before mr. Chahi could ;-) I contacted the author of the GBA remake and he said that there is a possibility that HIS GBA version will be sold by Chahi in the future - so they will both make money from it - if it gets released (and if it sells ofcourse ;-) ). I just hope he doesn't get screwed over like Richard Jordan almost did with Fairlight... time will tell.
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I contacted the author of the GBA remake and he said that there is a possibility that HIS GBA version will be sold by Chahi in the future - so they will both make money from it - if it gets released (and if it sells ofcourse ;-) ). I just hope he doesn't get screwed over like Richard Jordan almost did with Fairlight... time will tell.
Hey - if a GBA port is going to be sold, Mr Softy is going to buy it... For sure!
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I see. Thought you still had your trusty Win98 box with yas?
I do, but I preffer to use my iBook. 'Tis portable, you know?

"Ch-chek-check-ch-check it out!"
I wonder if it works with the original MacOS datafiles? It's got a higher rez and all y'see.
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Old 24 May 2004, 16:59   #37
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Did anyone manage to grab the MorphOS version?
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Old 25 May 2004, 23:05   #38
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It is also available for GBA now.
Home made of course.

Check .
http://www.gba-nfo.com/gba_home.php
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Bump!

Interview with Eric Chani

http://www.idlethumbs.net/display.php?id=44

Cool portrait image! Very AWish...
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Heart Of Darkness? never heard of that.. what platforms did that come out on then ?
obviously I would look myself but I`m about to go out on call

hmmppfff
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