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Old 11 December 2003, 18:53   #1
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APoV Issue #1 Release

I am pleased to announce that the first issue of APoV is ready for release!

Yes, rub those disbelieving eyes. After months of work, the shiny first edition of the greatest Amiga gaming magazine called 'APoV' in history is all wrapped up. Issue #1 will become available for download on Saturday 13th December, during the IRC meet.

The APoV website is going online literally as I write this - check it out for a sneaky pre-Saturday peeky - http://apov.abime.net

Okay. That's my bit said. I now hand you over to the CAC-GAS-ASS Players, with their dramatic piece entitled "APoV Release Announcement In The Manner Of Gollum".*

*Don't blame me. Cody and me played IRC Paper, Scissors, Stone, and he won.
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Old 11 December 2003, 18:56   #2
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Jarrett-Gollum:
We wants it, we needs it. Must have the Precious APoV. They stole it from us. Sneaky little EAB-ers. Wicked, tricksy, false!

Cody-Sméagol:
No! We gives it to the people at the EAB annual meeting.

Jarrett-Gollum:
No, Precious. False! They will cheat you, hurt you, lie!

Cody-Sméagol:
They're my friends.

Jarrett-Gollum:
You don't have any friends. Nobody likes you.

Cody-Sméagol:
Not listening. Not listening.

Jarrett-Gollum:
You´re a liar, and a bad writer!

Cody-Sméagol:
No.

Jarrett-Gollum:
You filthy hack!

Cody-Sméagol:
Go away.

Jarrett-Gollum:
Go away?! Ahahhaa!

Cody-Sméagol:
I hate you, I hate you.

Jarrett-Gollum:
Where would you be without me? I saved us. It was me. We wrote the issue because of me!

Cody-Sméagol:
Not anymore.

Jarrett-Gollum:
What did you say?

Cody-Sméagol:
We don't need you.

Jarrett-Gollum:
What?

Cody-Sméagol:
Leave now and never come back.

Jarrett-Gollum:
No!

Cody-Sméagol:
Leave now and never come back!

Jarrett-Gollum:
Ahh!

Cody-Sméagol:
LEAVE NOW AND NEVER COME BACK! ... We told him to go away! And away he goes, precious. Gone, gone, gone, APoV issue one is ready!
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Old 11 December 2003, 19:15   #3
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Nooo, the snowman has got to CodyJ:eek

Er...yes....Can't wait to see the finished mag

How big will the download be?
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Old 11 December 2003, 19:29   #4
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Great news guys

I can't wait to be a member of this team ( )
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Old 11 December 2003, 20:37   #5
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I think Cody should be prevented from writing anymore "comedy" routines. Cut of his hands if necessery.

I remember the long, long speech before HOL was opened......Jesus.


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Old 11 December 2003, 21:37   #6
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hurrah! tis nice to see the fruits of ones labours!
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Old 11 December 2003, 22:11   #7
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Hey BaseJumpers!! Maybe this over looked gem will get...some....looking at.
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Old 11 December 2003, 22:17   #8
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Do you mean Parachute Joust?
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Old 11 December 2003, 22:25   #9
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Good thing I never posted in the EAB awards the two times I had a post ready nominating Apov for the most anticipated thing which almost made it in 2003.
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Old 11 December 2003, 22:31   #10
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Looking forward to this one but..argh! THE COVER.... hurts my eyes.
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Old 11 December 2003, 22:49   #11
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whats wrong with it exactly? :suspiciou
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Old 12 December 2003, 00:32   #12
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That looks absolutely brilliant! and I cant wait to read it.

How big will the DL be?
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Old 12 December 2003, 09:54   #13
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whats wrong with it exactly? :suspiciou
Take a look at any gaming mag from today or yesteryear. Look at it.

Now look at this cover.
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Old 12 December 2003, 10:20   #14
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Take a look at any gaming mag from today or yesteryear. Look at it.

Now look at this cover.
I'm probably blind, but I don't have a clue here....
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Old 12 December 2003, 11:38   #15
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Ahhh so Paracut Joust is the fun bit stolen from Base Jumpers?
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Old 12 December 2003, 11:44   #16
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Parachute Joust is a freeware game that is similar to the skydiving bit in Base Jumpers.

However, Parachute Joust was written several years before Base Jumpers.
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Old 12 December 2003, 12:16   #17
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Mmmm this looks very good, cant wait to read it

Greeeat work!!
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Old 12 December 2003, 14:03   #18
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Hmmm well respect to ParaJoust...
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Old 12 December 2003, 14:32   #19
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Thumbs up Can't hardly wait

I can't hardly wait reading the very first issue of APOV. What will the frequency be like? How many pages it will be?

I am curious about the article about Team 17. Will APOV only look at the Amiga releases or at the Worms-franchise (up till Worms 3D)?
By coincedence, Games TM magazine also has a feature about Team 17 this month. It has founder Martyn Brown (haven't seen a pic of him for ten years, he is grey-haired and has a beard nowadays) promising the classic Team 17 Amiga games eventually will be ported to the next-gen consoles.
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Old 12 December 2003, 15:34   #20
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As far as I am concerned there are no classic Team 17 games. Body Blows, Alien Breed, Full Contact, Worms all fell short of the mark for me.

Team 17 are famous for graphics over content and Mr Brown is a fool.
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Old 12 December 2003, 15:44   #21
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Superfrog? Arcade Pool? Super Stardust?

Sorry... Personal favourites.
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Old 12 December 2003, 16:51   #22
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I didnt realise Syper Stardust was Team 17, I enjoyed that.

But Superfrog was average in my opinion and Arcade Pool!?!? I couldn't understand why some magazines gave it such good reviews.

As you say though, its all opionion.
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Old 12 December 2003, 17:02   #23
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great work guys

can't wait to have a look


hmmm.....will someone be doing a coverdisk?
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Old 12 December 2003, 19:09   #24
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I'm probably blind, but I don't have a clue here....
Probably don't want to see..

The cover looks tame, empty, feels "cluttered" despite the overload on empty space. The typeface used for the "some kind of wonderful" text has nothing to do with the logo typeface, it has no impact, and did I say it's too empty?

Now flame as you may, but this is what I think. it's a pity since the rest of the mag (well, what I can see from here) looks bloody brilliant,. and I can't wait to read the adventures of Mr Cornflake and... who the hell is the other one?
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Probably don't want to see..

The cover looks tame, empty, feels "cluttered" despite the overload on empty space. The typeface used for the "some kind of wonderful" text has nothing to do with the logo typeface, it has no impact, and did I say it's too empty?

Why didn't you say so from the beginning? Everybody has the right to an opinion, and the only reason I asked was that I couldn't find those "obvious" errors. Peace.
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Old 13 December 2003, 05:33   #26
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Just because now everybody will jump on me and say "well then you shouldn't have quitted the APoV team, you feckwit"
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Old 13 December 2003, 14:56   #27
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The PDF will come in at ~20MB.

In reply to Tim Janssen: the frequency should be around 2-3 months between issues. #2 will not take anywhere near as long to produce as the first edition has, as we now have a template to work from, so to speak.

Issue 1 is 70 pages, 6 of which are adverts. Thought some ads might add a bit of, I dunno, 'flavour'.

I wouldn't jump on you, Akira. Unless it was to give you lots of huggles and smooches.
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Just because now everybody will jump on me and say "well then you shouldn't have quitted the APoV team, you feckwit"
lol yeaaaaaah
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The PDF will come in at ~20MB.
20Mb * 50 peeps downloading in same time.. hum, hope my new bandwidth controler is working well
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Old 15 December 2003, 01:55   #30
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Ah great, 20MB on my dialup...

Seems like I wont be able to see APoV.
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Old 15 December 2003, 09:06   #31
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After all the moaning you did about it.. did you really want to see it anyway ?
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If it is too large for anyone to download, send me your postal address in a PM and I'll send it on a CD, free of charge.
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Old 15 December 2003, 10:06   #33
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Excellent work, thanks to all involved

p.s. 20MB too big on 56K? Ludicrous, I used to download 37MB South Park episodes when I was on dialup. No problems resuming, and didn't take much longer than two hours each.
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My suggestion would be that you made a split up version of it, one part for introductions, one part for reviews, one for features and one for walkthroughs and so on for every seeming part you have.

That way a 56Ker could download the parts instead. Download the part that would be most interesting to the person and then have something to read while the rest of it downloads.

I know it'll get more troublesome to maintain but I think it'll be worth it to see the happy look on the faces of the 56k people.

That and it will save bandwidth if someone doesn't want to download the walkthrough section anyway.
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20MB too big on 56K? Ludicrous, I used to download 37MB South Park episodes when I was on dialup. No problems resuming, and didn't take much longer than two hours each.
Lucky for you, you don't live in a cheap-arse south american country where 1 hour on dialup means complete rape-age of your poor booty.

A CD version seems cool. How about making, after a bunch of issues get released, a CD to distribute to the people, only for CD+shipping costs? would be something nice to have.
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Lucky for you, you don't live in a cheap-arse south american country where 1 hour on dialup means complete rape-age of your poor booty.
Judging by the number of posts on EAB, you must have spent a few months online with that modem.

Whether it is idle or downloading bears no relation on costs - or does your ISP really charge per megabyte?
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My number of posts is a direct result of my time when I HAD a cable connection.

Thank you for jumping onto conclusions. If you had access to the logs like RCK does, you would notice my posting has decreased A LOT in the last year or so.

You shouldn't have said anything unless you could prove it.

Thank you. Good bye.
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My number of posts is a direct result of my time when I HAD a cable connection.

Thank you for jumping onto conclusions. If you had access to the logs like RCK does, you would notice my posting has decreased A LOT in the last year or so.

You shouldn't have said anything unless you could prove it.

Thank you. Good bye.
Uh, I'm not trying to prove anything, nor have a dig - I'm trying to find out why you feel 20MB is out of the question on 56K.

And forgive me for knowing little about your history, I only discovered the EAB in January this year.
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After finally finding some time to sit down and read some of the magazine, I must say that I am very impressed.

The general quality of the magazine is one thing, but the best thing IMHO is the general slap-stick style writing, which I find very nostalgic from the days of reading Amiga Power and CU Amiga - and certainly not the same feel from current-day magazines. Whether that type of writing is... better or not... I just don't care - it certainly takes me back. (ohhh, when I was a lad...)

So, a big thank you from me on such quality work. I wish you all the best with it.

One suggestion though - where is the PR? For something as big as this, I expected to see it all over the news sites, etc. but the only one I found was on amiga.org. What about posting on ann/lu, amiga-news.de, uae msg board, amigaworld.org, etc. etc?

Anyway, great work! I will certainly look forward to the next one - when I have finished this one anyway.

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