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Old 28 October 2003, 22:01   #1
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about my previous thread

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11741

Well I didn't think that myst is abandonware, it was test, all answers was about game selling, and as i said allmoust every amiga game is still on sale.

Point is -> hypocritical

There are some web sites who have rights to offer games to download.

Many amiga software companies have previously get money for their games many years, like http://www.apc-tcp.de/ adding their games to TOSEC list makes people to think that their games are abandon***** http://www.planetemu.net

Flyin' high is still best amiga 3d car game and on sale from apc-tcp

there are many examples.

Point is -> Tosec is near to came *****
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Old 28 October 2003, 22:11   #2
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Re: about my previous thread

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Well I didn't think that myst is abandonware, it was test, all answers was about game selling, and as i said allmoust every amiga game is still on sale.
Only as second hand, which means they aren't really on sale, as no money is going to the publishers or creators.
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Old 28 October 2003, 22:28   #3
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Moust of amiga shops sell only "new" titles

http://www.forematt.co.uk/section.asp?s=games

http://www.mmd-shop.de/games.htm

http://www.centsible.com/cgi-bin/ca...t&search=arcade

http://www.cbi.nu/index2.cgi

http://ge.vip.fi/pelit.html
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Old 28 October 2003, 22:31   #4
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Re: Moust of amiga shops sell only "new" titles

Interesting.

Are you sure those are all brand new? Becuase the question begs, where are they getting them from?
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Old 28 October 2003, 23:49   #5
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Re: about my previous thread

I would like to point out a few things...

1) As I've stated before TOSEC is NOT responsible for any w arez images floating around on the net. They do NOT distribute anything other than datfiles for your renamer. TOSEC is only responsible for providing information about disks, tapes, iso's, etc. so the end-user can rename their collection to more descriptive filenames. Saying "TOSEC list makes people to think that their games are abandonw arez" and "Tosec is near to came w arez" are wrong statements.

2) I believe Myst is not abandonware yet and is still pulling in $$$. While this may not be entirely true on the Amiga, it's true for other platforms. If you really want it to be classified as abandonware, by all means, contact Clickboom AND Cyan. If you get the greenlight from them to distribute it on the net, great. If not (the likely answer from BOTH parties), then don't complain about it. I bought the game a few months ago for PC from Electronics Boutique for $5 AUS. That's the new retail price. I believe Riven is going for around $10-20 AUS. It's cheap. Buy it if you REALLY want to play it.

3) Retroman did nothing wrong in closing the previous thread and as such, this follow up thread should NOT have been started. The game is still being sold, and is thus not abandonware. Also, Retroman followed the rules of the EAB. He closed any threads which were about w arez. He is not at fault, nor is he hypocritical.

4) Re-reading a couple of my posts I can see that I seem to defend TOSEC alot, only because they are constantly looked at as w arez junkies. I'd just like to state that I'm not a TOSEC member, nor am I a big fan of theirs. While I do like the idea of renaming files to include as much information as possible (and consequently causes me to use their datfiles), I've always hated the idea of loooong filenames, as they have now. It's a double edged sword.
 
Old 28 October 2003, 23:53   #6
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Well well

Amigaboy: You dindn't read my post! I said MYST is NOT abandonware, and yes retroman didn't wrong.
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Old 28 October 2003, 23:56   #7
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TOSEC point

I belive that they have nothing to do with w@rez, but quite many people understand it that way.

Why? Moust of tosec download sites are ***** sites.
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Old 28 October 2003, 23:57   #8
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Amigaboy: You dindn't read my post! I said MYST is NOT abandonware, and yes retroman didn't wrong.
I apologise utri007. I obviously didn't read your post as well as I should have. However, my rambling wasn't a total loss because my TOSEC stuff still stands.
 
Old 28 October 2003, 23:59   #9
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NightShade737: about games

They have bought them years ago or shops that have stopped their amiga busines.
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Old 29 October 2003, 19:11   #10
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Re: Re: Moust of amiga shops sell only "new" titles

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Are you sure those are all brand new? Becuase the question begs, where are they getting them from?
Most would have got their new stock directly from Clickboom. Others
probably would have got their new copies through bigger dealers who
act as resellers, or from dealers who were either going out of
business or dropping Amiga support (as utri said).
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Old 29 October 2003, 21:05   #11
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Myst...

Is nothing more than an 'interactive' slideshow.

Its absolute rubbish. Clickboom would have been better spending their time converting anything other than it.
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Old 29 October 2003, 21:12   #12
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Re: Myst...

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Is nothing more than an 'interactive' slideshow.

Its absolute rubbish. Clickboom would have been better spending their time converting anything other than it.
Glad to se you are still around.
I agree. Eye candy for 1994 is hardly a gaming experience for 2003, in my opinion.
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