Can you feel the love tonight?

Dastardly · 01 July 2003, 15:15

It seems to me that the Amiga has some of the most loyal diehard fanatical fans of any machine ever. With projects like TOSEC (I know thats not just Amiga) the HOL and APoV, I was wondering if any other games machine receives this level of affection? Maybe its because I spend all my retrogaming time with WinUAE or looking at dedicated Amiga sites that I have missed all the projects going on for the other machines. Or maybe they just dont get the same level of attention from so many after all these years. Which of these is true?

What future projects can we look forward to, remembering and preserving the Amiga and its games?

I think maybe a project to fully preserve Amiga game manuals should be next which could possibly become a part of HOL or a project on its own. Maybe this has already been done or started and Ive just missed it but it seems with the superb HOL you can access any info for almost any game. The manuals would make it 100% IMO.

What do you guys and gal think should be the next project?

Mr Softy · 01 July 2003, 15:19

Arcade stuff got a lotta love too... there's a huge galaxy of fan projects around the main MAME project... custom cabinet mfg tips, screenshots, usenet floods, MAME frontends and conversions, cfg editors etc etc

Ian · 01 July 2003, 15:22

erm, isn't preserving manuals and other stuff already a part of the CAPS project?

I think a project that involves people putting money into a bank account, which is in my name sounds pretty good.

Dastardly · 01 July 2003, 15:27

@Ian
I havent really looked into the CAPS thing so apologies if that is the case.

So what do you guys think should be the next project?

Mr Softy · 01 July 2003, 15:40

It could be nice to include a "trivia" section in the HOL, with stories and facts about the creation of a given game, like what we have in the IMDB...
but imagine the HUGE amount of archeological work : finding the guys, interviewing them, etc etc etc...

CodyJarrett · 01 July 2003, 15:44

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Softy
It could be nice to include a "trivia" section in the HOL, with stories and facts about the creation of a given game, like what we have in the IMDB...
but imagine the HUGE amount of archeological work : finding the guys, interviewing them, etc etc etc...

Already started!

Mr Softy · 01 July 2003, 15:45

Quote:

Originally posted by Dastardly
So what do you guys think should be the next project?

Why would you exclude Rattus?

Mr Softy · 01 July 2003, 15:46

Quote:

Originally posted by CodyJarrett
Already started!

Yay!

CodyJarrett · 01 July 2003, 15:50

By contacting developers, we can also verify HOL data directly from those that made the games.

khephren · 01 July 2003, 16:28

Wouldn't describe the Amiga as a "games machine", was a good all rounder in my eyes.

Dastardly · 01 July 2003, 17:08

Apologies to Rattus

@Khephren

pffttt pedant

rattus · 01 July 2003, 17:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Dastardly
Apologies to Rattus

@Khephren

pffttt pedant

no worries mate

As for the next project? hmmm.... well I'm not exactly sure myself!

I suppose information on amiga software (not games, as the HOL takes care of that) would be useful... Kinda like the Big Book of Amiga Hardware would be worth a look

Phiber · 01 July 2003, 17:28

what about the old and loyal servant Commodore 64?

There's still a lot of activity in that machine.. and me for one, gonna do some music sometime in the few weeks before Assembly '03 is held in Helsinki, Finland 7.-10.8.2003

I'll probably compete in the Oldskool music compo, If i get anything ready before the deadline.. (busy with reallife issues at the moment..)

Ian · 01 July 2003, 19:02

The only retro machine I know of (Basically those from the west) that have the same sort of uber-nerd (Yes I mean people like you.... and me

) following as the Amiga is the Atari ST.

So the next thing we are likely to see is the CAaASPS project

Classic Amiga and Atari ST Preservation Society.

IFW · 01 July 2003, 19:21

'A' is good for anything - is all I can say for now

Twistin'Ghost · 02 July 2003, 03:50

Quote:

Originally posted by Ian
The only retro machine I know of (Basically those from the west) that have the same sort of uber-nerd (Yes I mean people like you.... and me) following as the Amiga is the Atari ST.

I have to disagree with this. I see the ST fanbase as disjointed, clumsy and completely devoid of the detail and attention given to platforms like Amiga, C64, coin-op...or Speccy, Amstrad, etc. Each platform seems to have loyal, devoted, passionate people who piss away years and years of their lives on this stuff. The ST, aside from LGD, has sites that go up and are abandoned in 6 months. Everytime I follow links to ST sites, they are in ruins.

ST fanatics can't compete with the level of uber-nerd like the Amiga has anymore than that machine could compete with the Amiga.

Dizzy · 02 July 2003, 04:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Twistin'Ghost

ST fanatics can't compete with the level of uber-nerd like the Amiga has anymore than that machine could compete with the Amiga.

I vote for the next project must be to PDF all amiga mag, to save them from disapearing

Twistin'Ghost · 02 July 2003, 04:11

Quote:

Originally posted by Dizzy

I vote for the next project must be to PDF all amiga mag, to save them from disapearing

Excellent point. It's one thing several other platforms have over on us (mainly C64 and Speccy).

IFW · 02 July 2003, 04:41

Unfortunately many authors are not happy with their old articles and has not given authorization to make their stuff available on the internet.
That's why you find blank/missing pages in those saved Speccy and C64 magazines online.

7-Zark-7 · 02 July 2003, 06:10

Its not the only factor though,the Zzap!64 site,looked like it had just about every issue online when leechers forced its closure due to excessive d/l,& forced it to shut down. It's still around last I saw, but was nowhere near the previous capacity,a real shame.

I've been saddened to see that the C64 retro sites seemed to have been targeted by the IDSA,usually in relation to old 8bit titles sharing the same name as modern titles-it looked like some are resorting to P2p means like Kazza etc. to survive, a spyware laden path if ever there was one.

01 July 2003, 15:15	#1
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	Can you feel the love tonight? It seems to me that the Amiga has some of the most loyal diehard fanatical fans of any machine ever. With projects like TOSEC (I know thats not just Amiga) the HOL and APoV, I was wondering if any other games machine receives this level of affection? Maybe its because I spend all my retrogaming time with WinUAE or looking at dedicated Amiga sites that I have missed all the projects going on for the other machines. Or maybe they just dont get the same level of attention from so many after all these years. Which of these is true? What future projects can we look forward to, remembering and preserving the Amiga and its games? I think maybe a project to fully preserve Amiga game manuals should be next which could possibly become a part of HOL or a project on its own. Maybe this has already been done or started and Ive just missed it but it seems with the superb HOL you can access any info for almost any game. The manuals would make it 100% IMO. What do you guys and gal think should be the next project?

01 July 2003, 19:02	#14
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	The only retro machine I know of (Basically those from the west) that have the same sort of uber-nerd (Yes I mean people like you.... and me) following as the Amiga is the Atari ST. So the next thing we are likely to see is the CAaASPS project Classic Amiga and Atari ST Preservation Society.

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Mr Softy Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sweedzerland Age: 44 Posts: 329	Arcade stuff got a lotta love too... there's a huge galaxy of fan projects around the main MAME project... custom cabinet mfg tips, screenshots, usenet floods, MAME frontends and conversions, cfg editors etc etc

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Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	erm, isn't preserving manuals and other stuff already a part of the CAPS project? I think a project that involves people putting money into a bank account, which is in my name sounds pretty good.

01 July 2003, 15:27	#4
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	@Ian I havent really looked into the CAPS thing so apologies if that is the case. So what do you guys think should be the next project?

01 July 2003, 15:40	#5
Mr Softy Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sweedzerland Age: 44 Posts: 329	It could be nice to include a "trivia" section in the HOL, with stories and facts about the creation of a given game, like what we have in the IMDB... but imagine the HUGE amount of archeological work : finding the guys, interviewing them, etc etc etc...

01 July 2003, 15:50	#9
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	By contacting developers, we can also verify HOL data directly from those that made the games.

01 July 2003, 16:28	#10
khephren Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Exeter, UK Age: 52 Posts: 128	Wouldn't describe the Amiga as a "games machine", was a good all rounder in my eyes.

01 July 2003, 17:08	#11
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	Apologies to Rattus @Khephren pffttt pedant

01 July 2003, 17:28	#13
Phiber Hardware Freak Join Date: May 2002 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 50 Posts: 222	what about the old and loyal servant Commodore 64? There's still a lot of activity in that machine.. and me for one, gonna do some music sometime in the few weeks before Assembly '03 is held in Helsinki, Finland 7.-10.8.2003 I'll probably compete in the Oldskool music compo, If i get anything ready before the deadline.. (busy with reallife issues at the moment..)

01 July 2003, 19:21	#15
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	'A' is good for anything - is all I can say for now

02 July 2003, 04:41	#19
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Unfortunately many authors are not happy with their old articles and has not given authorization to make their stuff available on the internet. That's why you find blank/missing pages in those saved Speccy and C64 magazines online.

02 July 2003, 06:10	#20
7-Zark-7 Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane/Australia Posts: 1,270	Its not the only factor though,the Zzap!64 site,looked like it had just about every issue online when leechers forced its closure due to excessive d/l,& forced it to shut down. It's still around last I saw, but was nowhere near the previous capacity,a real shame. I've been saddened to see that the C64 retro sites seemed to have been targeted by the IDSA,usually in relation to old 8bit titles sharing the same name as modern titles-it looked like some are resorting to P2p means like Kazza etc. to survive, a spyware laden path if ever there was one.

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