A500+ Program Failed 8000 0003

fool2cool · 19 July 2007, 18:03

Hi, i recently bought 2 Amiga 500+'s off of ebay, they were labelled as for spares or repairs but i thought i could fix them up and have at least 1 working A500+, i have hit a brick wall with this error though, i can load workbench ver 1.3.2 fine, but when i try and load a game it throws up that error :S, could this be a rom error? ive had the case open and checked all the chips and pushed them down, the only thing i did notice when i had the case open was that the battery had leaked slightly but nothing drastic and that someone had appeared to have modified the mobo in some way, a diode had been desoldered from 1 spot and soldered onto the pin of a resistor :S. any help on fixing theese machines would be appreciated.
Thank you very much.

BinoX · 19 July 2007, 18:10

I believe that that guru is usually caused by bad memory in a system...

Not 100% sure though

alexh · 19 July 2007, 18:11

What program are you trying to run?

8000 0003 normally indicates the opcode contains an illegal address?

Common Causes
Data Corruption due to bad RAM.
Trying to access 32-bit RAM on a 24-bit processor.
KS2.04 incompatibility.

Galahad/FLT · 19 July 2007, 18:20

Just be sure to test a game that doesn't normally fail on A500+. Quite a few OCS/ECS games failed on A500+.

fool2cool · 19 July 2007, 18:20

its any game i try to load
Wanted for instance.

BinoX you say Bad memory? the ram? is this easily fixed?

i feel like a fool now, thought i could repair theese consoles easily

EDIT: Ok some games work, another problem has arose though, Joystick 1 port doesnt appear to work :S, things just go from bad to worse hehe.

StingRay · 19 July 2007, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by fool2cool

EDIT: Ok some games work, another problem has arose though, Joystick 1 port doesnt appear to work :S, things just go from bad to worse hehe.

So that means, you can't use the mouse when you load the Workbench?

fool2cool · 19 July 2007, 19:49

I use Joystick port 2 for the mouse in work bench.

Graham Humphrey · 19 July 2007, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by fool2cool

I use Joystick port 2 for the mouse in work bench.

You sure? WB uses port 1 (where the mouse is normally plugged into).

fool2cool · 19 July 2007, 22:15

well i swapped the CIA? chips out with the other machine i purchased and now both ports work fine, could it just be a game compatibility issue that causes this error, some games work fine others crash :S. if so is there a way to check and see which games will and wont work. thanks .

Graham Humphrey · 19 July 2007, 23:17

It might help if you list what games don't work and what happens when you try to load them.

fool2cool · 20 July 2007, 00:46

Wanted: Program Failed 8000 0003
Renaissance: same error
Spy vs Spy: Just lines of code, looks like hex?
Wanted and Renaissance are copies of the original games, could this be related?
Aztec Challenge(Original copy): Worked fine

Graham Humphrey · 20 July 2007, 00:49

Well if some work and others don't then it's likely that certain games are incompatible with Kickstart 2.04... do you have a degrader (such as ReloKick)? Try loading that then running the games that don't work.

fool2cool · 20 July 2007, 18:28

Will i need something like catweasel to write ReloKick to a floppy?

alexh · 20 July 2007, 20:33

A serial cable+workbench disk+AmigaExplorer

fool2cool · 21 July 2007, 13:51

Trouble is, ive only got workbench version 1.3 which doesnt support crossdos so i have no way of getting files onto the amiga at all.

fool2cool · 22 July 2007, 03:09

Ive been reading about theese leaky batteries on the motherboards of the amigas, mine appears to have leaked a lil bit and theres a blue/green corrosion on some pins? should i carefully clean this off and remove the offending battery?

mabus · 22 July 2007, 03:19

Yes, be very careful about leaking batteries. You should check the motherboard throughly to make sure that the acid has not eaten anything. Since most of the custom chips are socketed, problems due to leakage may be intermittent and you may need to clean the chips and sockets to get a more reliable connection. Be aware that these devices are very sensitive to static, so you should ground yourself before you do any work on it.

As far as I remember it is possible to run a similar tool to CrossDOS called MultiDOS in Workbench 1.3, but it can be a pain if you only have one floppy drive and no harddrive. The tool is available on Aminet, but read the included README file as the software has some limitations under WB1.3.

Hope that helps,

-M.

alexh · 22 July 2007, 10:21

You dont need crossdos... you just need Amiga Explorer and a serial cable...

There is a program on ALL workbench disks that can be used to install the software from the PC to the Amiga and then the Amiga floppy drive becomes a slave to the PC... you drag the ADF onto AmigaExplorer on the PC and it writes it.

fool2cool · 22 July 2007, 12:08

Wow, ok that sounds like a brill option, ill go with the serial cable, i need a null modem cable right? and ill desolder that battery now and clean the motherboard, yeah some of the socketed chips have blue dust on their pins?
Oh and i do have 2 floppy drives for this amiga if it helps, the internal and 1 external one.

alexh · 22 July 2007, 12:23

http://www.amigaforever.com/ae/

19 July 2007, 18:03	#1
fool2cool Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 32 Posts: 23	A500+ Program Failed 8000 0003 Hi, i recently bought 2 Amiga 500+'s off of ebay, they were labelled as for spares or repairs but i thought i could fix them up and have at least 1 working A500+, i have hit a brick wall with this error though, i can load workbench ver 1.3.2 fine, but when i try and load a game it throws up that error :S, could this be a rom error? ive had the case open and checked all the chips and pushed them down, the only thing i did notice when i had the case open was that the battery had leaked slightly but nothing drastic and that someone had appeared to have modified the mobo in some way, a diode had been desoldered from 1 spot and soldered onto the pin of a resistor :S. any help on fixing theese machines would be appreciated. Thank you very much.

19 July 2007, 18:11	#3
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	What program are you trying to run? 8000 0003 normally indicates the opcode contains an illegal address? Common Causes Data Corruption due to bad RAM. Trying to access 32-bit RAM on a 24-bit processor. KS2.04 incompatibility. Last edited by alexh; 19 July 2007 at 18:24.

19 July 2007, 18:20	#5
fool2cool Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 32 Posts: 23	its any game i try to load Wanted for instance. BinoX you say Bad memory? the ram? is this easily fixed? i feel like a fool now, thought i could repair theese consoles easily EDIT: Ok some games work, another problem has arose though, Joystick 1 port doesnt appear to work :S, things just go from bad to worse hehe. Last edited by fool2cool; 19 July 2007 at 18:29.

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19 July 2007, 18:10	#2
BinoX Miggy Man Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cornwall, United Kingdom Age: 40 Posts: 831	I believe that that guru is usually caused by bad memory in a system... Not 100% sure though

19 July 2007, 18:20	#4
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,004	Just be sure to test a game that doesn't normally fail on A500+. Quite a few OCS/ECS games failed on A500+.

19 July 2007, 19:49	#7
fool2cool Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 32 Posts: 23	I use Joystick port 2 for the mouse in work bench.

19 July 2007, 22:15	#9
fool2cool Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 32 Posts: 23	well i swapped the CIA? chips out with the other machine i purchased and now both ports work fine, could it just be a game compatibility issue that causes this error, some games work fine others crash :S. if so is there a way to check and see which games will and wont work. thanks .

19 July 2007, 23:17	#10
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	It might help if you list what games don't work and what happens when you try to load them.

20 July 2007, 00:46	#11
fool2cool Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 32 Posts: 23	Wanted: Program Failed 8000 0003 Renaissance: same error Spy vs Spy: Just lines of code, looks like hex? Wanted and Renaissance are copies of the original games, could this be related? Aztec Challenge(Original copy): Worked fine

20 July 2007, 00:49	#12
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Well if some work and others don't then it's likely that certain games are incompatible with Kickstart 2.04... do you have a degrader (such as ReloKick)? Try loading that then running the games that don't work.

20 July 2007, 18:28	#13
fool2cool Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 32 Posts: 23	Will i need something like catweasel to write ReloKick to a floppy?

20 July 2007, 20:33	#14
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	A serial cable+workbench disk+AmigaExplorer

21 July 2007, 13:51	#15
fool2cool Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 32 Posts: 23	Trouble is, ive only got workbench version 1.3 which doesnt support crossdos so i have no way of getting files onto the amiga at all.

22 July 2007, 03:09	#16
fool2cool Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 32 Posts: 23	Ive been reading about theese leaky batteries on the motherboards of the amigas, mine appears to have leaked a lil bit and theres a blue/green corrosion on some pins? should i carefully clean this off and remove the offending battery?

22 July 2007, 03:19	#17
mabus Zone Friend Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 121	Yes, be very careful about leaking batteries. You should check the motherboard throughly to make sure that the acid has not eaten anything. Since most of the custom chips are socketed, problems due to leakage may be intermittent and you may need to clean the chips and sockets to get a more reliable connection. Be aware that these devices are very sensitive to static, so you should ground yourself before you do any work on it. As far as I remember it is possible to run a similar tool to CrossDOS called MultiDOS in Workbench 1.3, but it can be a pain if you only have one floppy drive and no harddrive. The tool is available on Aminet, but read the included README file as the software has some limitations under WB1.3. Hope that helps, -M.

22 July 2007, 10:21	#18
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	You dont need crossdos... you just need Amiga Explorer and a serial cable... There is a program on ALL workbench disks that can be used to install the software from the PC to the Amiga and then the Amiga floppy drive becomes a slave to the PC... you drag the ADF onto AmigaExplorer on the PC and it writes it.

22 July 2007, 12:08	#19
fool2cool Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 32 Posts: 23	Wow, ok that sounds like a brill option, ill go with the serial cable, i need a null modem cable right? and ill desolder that battery now and clean the motherboard, yeah some of the socketed chips have blue dust on their pins? Oh and i do have 2 floppy drives for this amiga if it helps, the internal and 1 external one.

22 July 2007, 12:23	#20
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	http://www.amigaforever.com/ae/

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