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Old 20 October 2016, 23:05   #1
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Floppy disk Super C (Konami) - original ADF + raw dump

G'day EAB peeps!

Tonight I bring you Super C by Konami, which was requested by another EAB member (GeorgeSN) earlier in the year.

Despite the title, the Amiga conversion by Konami was based mostly on the original Super Contra coin-op (Konami) rather than the Super C coin-op (Konami Classic). More bizarre, though, is that Konami referred to the 'C' in Super C as Commando and NOT Contra on the game packaging of the Amiga & other home conversions (see HERE)

Unfortunately, for us, the Amiga conversion was a piss-poor port done by the North American PC dev team that Konami contracted. I'm sure if Konami in Japan had overseen the conversion, then we would've got something a bit classier like the MSX & console conversions of Contra/Gryzor and other Konami coin-op classics. Ahhh well......

Anyway, I've made an ADF and raw dump of my original copy. In the Zone. Enjoy (if you can)!!

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Old 21 October 2016, 00:02   #2
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G'day EAB peeps!

Tonight I bring you Super C by Konami, which was requested by another EAB member (GeorgeSN) earlier in the year.

Despite the title, the Amiga conversion by Konami was based mostly on the original Super Contra coin-op (Konami) rather than the Super C coin-op (Konami/Nintendo PlayChoice). More bizarre, though, is that Konami referred to the 'C' in Super C on the Amiga & other home conversions as Commando and NOT Contra on the back of the game box (see HERE)

Unfortunately, for us, the Amiga conversion was a piss-poor port done by the North American PC dev team that Konami contracted. I'm sure if Konami in Japan had overseen the conversion, then we would've got something a bit classier like the MSX & console conversions of Contra/Gryzor and other Konami coin-op classics. Ahhh well......

Anyway, I've made an ADF and raw dump of my original copy. In the Zone. Enjoy (if you can)!!
Thanks, your original is pristine and not modified

However, we lack the manual, this one contains the protection codes, can you scan it for HOL please ?
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Old 21 October 2016, 22:16   #4
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Thanks, your original is pristine and not modified
Thanks for analysing!

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However, we lack the manual, this one contains the protection codes, can you scan it for HOL please ?
Yeh, it was late last night and it only occurred to me today that I forgot to mention the manual protection Given how big a release Super C would've been back in the day on the Ami, I was surprised that the disk didn't have some hard core copy protection.....but then I remembered that in the U.S. they weren't very fond of oppressive anti-piracy measures.

If you look at the protection code sheet in the Super C manual, then you quickly realise that Konami didn't need to use any disk protection as the code sheet is dark maroon with dull black print. Unless you shine it in the light at the right angle, you can't even bloody read the thing! I'm sure this was to make photocopying useless back in the day. It remains to be seen if scanning will work any better. I will probably have to play around with the scan in a graphics package, make some chicken sacrifices and cross my fingers & toes!

Anyway, in the meantime you can remove the manual protection using Maverick, Lockpick or RawCopy. They all have a dedicated parameter to remove the manual protection for Super C.

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Old 21 October 2016, 22:48   #5
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There is a way for this protection code sheet, make a 300 dpi scan of the codes, and i'll do my sorcery

PS : i tried on Castlevania codes, as it uses the same sheet, and it works nicely hehehe
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Homemade sheet for you Captain.
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                                     -Super C-   

       A    B    C    D    E    F    G    H    I    J    K    L    M    N    O    P
  1 0201 8292 0050 9241 8716 0006 8323 8257 9248 8720 8200 1156 1602 1569 9872 0712 
  2 9444 1778 0633 8380 0222 9327 8759 9243 1677 1606 8867 0209 9448 8820 9274 1693 
  3 8782 1191 0723 8297 0180 9306 8749 9238 1675 1605 8866 9425 0744 1140 8890 0093 
  4 9390 1623 0555 8341 0202 9317 1586 0537 1164 0710 9315 9905 9816 8876 8406 1259 
  5 8821 8250 9373 1614 1575 1683 9929 0740 9458 8953 9340 1726 8799 8367 9431 1643 
  6 1589 1690 9933 0742 0243 1273 9852 9790 9887 8911 8423 1267 1657 1596 9886 9935 
  7 9959 8947 1273 1788 8830 9407 9951 8815 1207 1755 1645 0694 9435 0749 9334 8891 
  8 0093 8366 8279 0043 8213 1034 9733 1538 0641 1216 0736 9328 0696 0092 1198 0599 
  9 9259 9877 0586 8357 1234 0617 1076 0666 9293 9894 0595 1193 8916 9322 9909 8794 
 10 1197 1750 1643 0693 9434 9965 0630 1211 1757 9838 9911 0731 8429 1270 9851 1597 
 11 9886 8911 0231 8435 1145 0572 8222 9359 9799 8739 1169 1736 8804 9394 0729 8300 
 12 1206 9819 8749 9366 8907 1125 8882 8281 0172 1110 8747 9237 9866 8773 1186 1745 
 13 1640 0692 9434 0749 9334 1723 0605 8366 9431 0619 8245 1178 9805 1574 0659 1225 
 14 9956 9842 9913 8924 1262 8951 8315 9405 1630 8751 1175 9931 1637 0690 8409 0236 
 15 0118 8251 9245 9742 8711 1155 8897 1120 9904 8792 0172 1238 1643 9781 9882 9933 
 16 1766 1779 1785 9980 9982 9983 8959 8447 1279 1663 1599 0671 0207 0231 0115 0057 
 17 0028 9230 9735 9731 8833 1216 8928 8304 0184 1116 1582 0535 9355 9925 0610 8369 
 18 1240 0620 8246 0155 9293 8742 9235 1673 8772 8354 9425 8808 1076 8858 1101 9894 
 19 1619 0681 8404 9450 9845 8762 1181 1742 1639 0691 9433 0748 9334 8891 9309 8878 
 20 8279 1195 8789 1066 9877 1610 0677 1234 0745 0116 0186 9309 9774 0535 1163 8901 
 21 0098 9393 1624 0556 8342 0203 9317 8754 9241 1676 1606 8867 9425 9960 8820 8378 
 22 1245 8814 1079 0667 8269 0166 9299 1577 9748 8842 9413 8930 1137 1720 1628 9902 
 23 0727 9451 8949 0122 8381 1118 0559 1047 9867 0581 0162 8401 0104 0052 8218 0013 
 24 9222 1539 0513 8320 9408 9824 1584 1688 1740 0742 0243 9465 9852 9790 8863 8399 
 25 8423 1139 1593 1564 9870 9927 9955 8945 1272 8956 8318 0191 8287 8239 0023 1035 
 26 1541 0514 9345 0704 0096 8368 0088 0044 1046 0523 9221 9858 9793 1696 1744 8936 
 27 0244 0250 1149 9790 0543 0143 8391 0099 0049 1048 9740 9734 0643 8385 8416 9328 
 28 8760 1052 1678 1607 9891 9937 0744 8436 8442 0125 8254 1055 0527 8199 0131 0065 
 29 1056 9744 9736 0644 1218 1761 9840 0696 9436 1774 0631 8379 9437 0622 8247 1179 
 30 9805 1574 9875 1737 9956 8946 9465 8956 1150 8895 8287 9391 1623 1579 1685 0714 
 31 9445 0754 0121 1212 0606 9263 9879 9803 1701 1746 8937 0244 0250 8317 9278 0543 
 32 1039 8839 0067 0161 1104 9768 9748 0650 1221 8930 0113 0184 1116 9774 0535 9355 
 33 8901 0098 8369 1112 0556 8214 0139 9285 8738 9233 1672 1604 8866 0209 9448 1652 
 34 9786 1693 9934 1767 0755 8441 0252 9342 8767 9247 8847 1095 1699 1617 0680 9428 
 35 9962 0629 8378 1245 0622 1079 0667 9293 0678 9299 1705 9812 8874 9429 8938 1141 
 36 1722 1629 0686 0215 0235 9333 0570 9245 1678 0583 1187 9937 0616 9396 8922 0109 
 37 8374 1115 0557 8214 9355 0581 8226 8337 0072 1060 8722 0009 9348 1602 9761 8848 
 38 0200 8420 1138 0569 8220 0142 9287 8739 9233 1672 8772 8354 0209 8296 1076 9754 
 39 1549 9862 1731 0737 8432 9464 9852 1598 1695 8911 9447 0755 1145 1724 9822 9903 
 40 9943 8939 1269 1786 8829 0190 0223 1135 9783 0539 0141 1222 9827 0561 9368 8908
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Thanks a lot Clenched, can you do an image of it and upload it on HOL ?
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Thanks a lot Clenched, can you do an image of it and upload it on HOL ?
Here's a .PNG image of guru clenched's codes
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Thanks a lot Clenched, can you do an image of it and upload it on HOL ?
I would rather wait for an authentic scan from the Doctor instead of uploading phony material to HOL.
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I would rather wait for an authentic scan from the Doctor instead of uploading phony material to HOL.
Ok, i'll wait for it, then i will work out my sorcery then

PS clenched, i have made a video for cleaning the dirty/mouldy floppies, if it has any interest for you
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There is a way for this protection code sheet, make a 300 dpi scan of the codes, and i'll do my sorcery
Modern scanners are quite amazing! I only needed to spend a few minutes on image processing to make the code sheet nice and legible whilst still retaining the original colours. Upped to HOL! Feel free to improve upon it.....

http://hol.abime.net/2179/miscshot (see 2nd pic)

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Homemade sheet for you Captain.
I kinda wondered if you were reading and might lend your talents! Nice work as usual BTW

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Here's a .PNG image of guru clenched's codes
Good stuff! I've re-upped the ADF and raw dump of Super C to the Zone, and have included this image containing the codes in the archives.
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Is the attached any better?
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A promise is a promise here is my sorcery :

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LOL, seems we did the same thing
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@BarryB, Denis
Nice work, they're more legible and definitely much better for printing purposes......but scanning the code sheet in greyscale last night gained similar results. What I was wondering is whether any "sorcery" can achieve something similar in terms of legibility whilst retaining the original colours and minimising fading/washout? Just asking as it's always nice if we can remain as authentic as possible to the original when upping scanned stuff to HOL.
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Wow I never knew this actually existed! Well done!
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G'day EAB peeps!

Tonight I bring you Super C by Konami, which was requested by another EAB member (GeorgeSN) earlier in the year.

Despite the title, the Amiga conversion by Konami was based mostly on the original Super Contra coin-op (Konami) rather than the Super C coin-op (Konami/Nintendo PlayChoice). More bizarre, though, is that Konami referred to the 'C' in Super C on the Amiga & other home conversions as Commando and NOT Contra on the back of the game box (see HERE)

Unfortunately, for us, the Amiga conversion was a piss-poor port done by the North American PC dev team that Konami contracted. I'm sure if Konami in Japan had overseen the conversion, then we would've got something a bit classier like the MSX & console conversions of Contra/Gryzor and other Konami coin-op classics. Ahhh well......

Anyway, I've made an ADF and raw dump of my original copy. In the Zone. Enjoy (if you can)!!
Thank you so much, this is highly appreciated

About the bold part, I always found that amusing. The abbreviation was a considerably discussed topic on various forums throughout the years in the past. I think they decided to dub it Commando as part of the same reason they abbreviated it, which was to avoid certain political references. It was kind of funny that people wondered what the C stood for, even though they owned the box/manual to the NES game and it more or less had the answer on there. It's also on the DOS version, of course, but that's really just because the box (and manual) for that and this Amiga version is the exact same.

I have documented the Super C Amiga game the most that I could, but I do wonder if it has any cheat codes that are simply not known yet; the DOS version has one through a simple key combination during gameplay.

Many thanks again!
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However, we lack the manual, this one contains the protection codes, can you scan it for HOL please ?
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.....you can remove the manual protection using Maverick, Lockpick or RawCopy. They all have a dedicated parameter to remove the manual protection for Super C.
For anyone interested, I've upped a deprotected ADF of my Super C original to the Zone. Just wanted to see how good a job the Lockpick parameter would do in removing the manual protection. Turns out that it just does the minimum and still requires players to enter a 4 digit code (anything will do!), as opposed to getting rid of the manual prompt altogether.

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@BarryB, Denis
Nice work, they're more legible and definitely much better for printing purposes......but scanning the code sheet in greyscale last night gained similar results. What I was wondering is whether any "sorcery" can achieve something similar in terms of legibility whilst retaining the original colours and minimising fading/washout?
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Any better?
Yep, nice work once again! I had a quick play around too using GIMP and managed to almost eliminate fading/washout altogether and was able to isolate the text to blacken it further. Most of the text shows up nicely, but there are a few areas where there is a bit of washout that needs to be manually touched up. If it requires too much work touching up, then I'll simply up what you produced to the HOL entry!

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About the bold part, I always found that amusing. The abbreviation was a considerably discussed topic on various forums throughout the years in the past. I think they decided to dub it Commando as part of the same reason they abbreviated it, which was to avoid certain political references. It was kind of funny that people wondered what the C stood for, even though they owned the box/manual to the NES game and it more or less had the answer on there. It's also on the DOS version, of course, but that's really just because the box (and manual) for that and this Amiga version is the exact same.

I have documented the Super C Amiga game the most that I could, but I do wonder if it has any cheat codes that are simply not known yet; the DOS version has one through a simple key combination during gameplay.

Many thanks again!
You're very welcome! I kinda wondered if the Iran-Contra affair might've had something to do with the fun & games that Konami were perpetrating on the naming of the game in North America. Perhaps it would've been understandable when the Super Contra coin-op was released in 1988 (but for whatever reason they resisted the temptation at that point to shorten it to Super C), but it just doesn't make sense for them to have done it a couple of years later in 1990 for the Amiga/PC/NES home conversions.....especially as they ham it up and refer to the "Super Commando Hall of Fame" on the Ami/PC game box (something that wasn't on the NES box!).

As for cheat codes, I've never seen any published anywhere for the Ami version of Super C. Someone with cracking/coding skills could probably give you a definitive answer if they took the time to take a closer look through the code. A quick go with Action Replay, though, might give clues as to whether there are any built-in cheats.

BTW you mention "documenting" the Ami conversion of Super C. Do you run a Contra webshrine, by any chance?

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Load Super C and watch the FMV sequence until the two main characters start shooting. While they are shooting, perform a soft reset of the Amiga system. At the command line, type in "5|_|P3R C" (It is actually a stylized way of writing Super C.) After entering this command, run the game. Before the game actually begins, a message will prompt you to press t anytime to open up the cheat menu you enabled. You can activate more than one cheat.

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Former One-Man Army. Infinite Lives. 
Can't Touch This. Invincibility (you can either choose this or infinite lives, not both). 
Quick Game XX Level Select, where XX represents what level you type from 02-08. 
Lucky Start. On the top-view levels, you have unlimited shell bombs. 
Naturally Explosive. Start each new life with the grenade gun. 
Naturally Beamed. Start each new life with the laser gun. 
Naturally Fast. Start each new life with the machine gun. 
Naturally Spread. Start each new life with the spread gun. 
Good Shots You Gain points faster.
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