What to the Phase5 Cyberstorm G3/G4 project?

lopos2000 · 01 September 2006, 13:14

I was just browsing through the Phase5 Archive and came across this article.
Cyberstorm G3/G4 project.
Did anybody here pre order this product? Where is it or why did it die?

Npl · 01 September 2006, 15:01

I guess phase5 did die, along with their products.

keropi · 01 September 2006, 15:30

it looked promising... very promising...

lopos2000 · 01 September 2006, 15:37

just wonder if anyone pre ordered the board and got their money back.
Yeah, you are right. Would have loved to get my hands on one of these.

kriz · 01 September 2006, 16:18

Phase 5 rocked, too bad they shut down

DJBase · 01 September 2006, 17:04

Many people lost their money while preordering this card when phase5 died.

lopos2000 · 01 September 2006, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJBase

Many people lost their money while preordering this card when phase5 died.

Was this because DCE took over the production?

DJBase · 01 September 2006, 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopos2000

Was this because DCE took over the production?

This has nothing to do with DCE. DCE just got a licence to manufacture phase5 products. It was phase5 own fault when they went bankrupt. A simple management failure.

DrBong · 01 September 2006, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopos2000

I was just browsing through the Phase5 Archive and came across this article.
Cyberstorm G3/G4 project.
Did anybody here pre order this product? Where is it or why did it die?

I was very tempted at the time, but thankfully I had the wisdom not to pre-order a product that had no release date and, in the case of the G4 board, no specified price. I was also a bit skeptical about Phase 5's software support. They were usually great on hardware R&D, but the software support for new boards was always shaky to begin with. At the time it was just too much money to spend on an untested product. I was going to wait until they were released and then buy one once the bugs were sorted out. However, Phase 5 went under not too long after and took the money from people's deposits on these boards with them. From where I was sitting, the Amiga curse struck again and the Amiga's last hope went down the gurgler with Phase 5. Pity.

lopos2000 · 01 September 2006, 20:15

The question is, what happened to all the design plans? Did they just burn them?

DJBase · 01 September 2006, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopos2000

The question is, what happened to all the design plans? Did they just burn them?

There exist no design of the G3/G4 cards and never was.

keropi · 01 September 2006, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJBase

There exist no design of the G3/G4 cards and never was.

LOL

who wants to pre-order my dual core 64bit a1200/4000 accelerator?

lopos2000 · 01 September 2006, 20:47

Sounds like a good scam.

Ultron · 01 September 2006, 20:55

Same old BS in the "Amiga" world.

I can't believe there are still people who believe in "New hardware just around the corner!" pre-order crap BS-fest that the "Amiga"'s been for years now, filled with fraud and gods know what else.

I say "Amiga" in quotes, because this PPC balloney has nothing to do with a real Amiga.

DJBase · 01 September 2006, 22:52

It is the same as with the Blizzard 2604e, the PowerUP card for the A2000. It was just a proof to see if its worth to develope such a card.

dilinger · 02 September 2006, 04:06

the difference between Phase5 and the 3rd party hardware developers of today (such as Elbox, ACK, et al) is that with Phase5 you knew their stuff would have appeared in good time. Shame Phase5 died, they were a quality outfit imo. Elbox have been promising a similar G3/G4 based PPC card for about 5-6 years now! And where is ACK's PowerVixxen?

Although I have to say that Elbox have managed to deliver some very nice hardware for Amiga over recent years (busboards/drivers, adaptors, ide interfaces, etc) and manufacturing new hardware for a commercially dead platform has to be commended. I believe if it's at all financially possible (ie: a new product would not bankrupt them) Elbox are the guys who could technically make new hardware a reality. I'm not convinced ACK, Troika and the likes even have the ability to do it. But I'm prepared to eat my words if one of 'em releases AOS4 compatible h/w within the next decade

jaycee · 04 September 2006, 00:30

I think the main money for Phase 5 was in upgrades and accelerators for older Macintoshes... as soon as Apple stamped on all of that, that was a major part of their business dead.

The PPC accelerator boards were a stupid idea anyway. What you basically ended up with was a computer on an expansion card, with the motherboard only supplying power! Now.. if the pegasos board had appeared 5 years earlier than it did, things might have been different.

As for the PPC line, it'll soon die out, now that Apple have conceded defeat and are switching to Intel based setups. What confused me though is why they didnt go for x86-64 or even IA-64, instead of the IA32 line.

DJBase · 04 September 2006, 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaycee

As for the PPC line, it'll soon die out, now that Apple have conceded defeat and are switching to Intel based setups.

If you mean the PPC as desktop processor then yes but the PPC is moving more and more to the embedded market which is a much bigger market than the desktop market.

jaycee · 04 September 2006, 02:29

I dunno about that... the embedded market seems to be standardising on either MIPS based architectures, or ARM. I belive Cisco still make high end switches and routers that use PowerPC, but I've a feeling they will soon move to ARM - especially as controller ASICs for that sort of thing are coming embedded with ARM cores.

DJBase · 04 September 2006, 12:10

There are much more PPC based devices around than CISCO.

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01 September 2006, 15:01	#2
Npl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Vienna / Austria Age: 44 Posts: 257	I guess phase5 did die, along with their products.

01 September 2006, 15:30	#3
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	it looked promising... very promising...

01 September 2006, 15:37	#4
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	just wonder if anyone pre ordered the board and got their money back. Yeah, you are right. Would have loved to get my hands on one of these.

01 September 2006, 16:18	#5
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 42 Posts: 3,210	Phase 5 rocked, too bad they shut down

01 September 2006, 17:04	#6
DJBase Amiga is my Religion Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 578	Many people lost their money while preordering this card when phase5 died.

01 September 2006, 20:15	#10
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	The question is, what happened to all the design plans? Did they just burn them?

01 September 2006, 20:47	#13
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	Sounds like a good scam.

01 September 2006, 20:55	#14
Ultron Something Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Amigaland, Nostalgia Age: 48 Posts: 757	Same old BS in the "Amiga" world. I can't believe there are still people who believe in "New hardware just around the corner!" pre-order crap BS-fest that the "Amiga"'s been for years now, filled with fraud and gods know what else. I say "Amiga" in quotes, because this PPC balloney has nothing to do with a real Amiga.

01 September 2006, 22:52	#15
DJBase Amiga is my Religion Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 578	It is the same as with the Blizzard 2604e, the PowerUP card for the A2000. It was just a proof to see if its worth to develope such a card.

02 September 2006, 04:06	#16
dilinger Zone Friend Join Date: May 2005 Location: denmark Age: 47 Posts: 45	the difference between Phase5 and the 3rd party hardware developers of today (such as Elbox, ACK, et al) is that with Phase5 you knew their stuff would have appeared in good time. Shame Phase5 died, they were a quality outfit imo. Elbox have been promising a similar G3/G4 based PPC card for about 5-6 years now! And where is ACK's PowerVixxen? Although I have to say that Elbox have managed to deliver some very nice hardware for Amiga over recent years (busboards/drivers, adaptors, ide interfaces, etc) and manufacturing new hardware for a commercially dead platform has to be commended. I believe if it's at all financially possible (ie: a new product would not bankrupt them) Elbox are the guys who could technically make new hardware a reality. I'm not convinced ACK, Troika and the likes even have the ability to do it. But I'm prepared to eat my words if one of 'em releases AOS4 compatible h/w within the next decade

04 September 2006, 00:30	#17
jaycee Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 57	I think the main money for Phase 5 was in upgrades and accelerators for older Macintoshes... as soon as Apple stamped on all of that, that was a major part of their business dead. The PPC accelerator boards were a stupid idea anyway. What you basically ended up with was a computer on an expansion card, with the motherboard only supplying power! Now.. if the pegasos board had appeared 5 years earlier than it did, things might have been different. As for the PPC line, it'll soon die out, now that Apple have conceded defeat and are switching to Intel based setups. What confused me though is why they didnt go for x86-64 or even IA-64, instead of the IA32 line.

04 September 2006, 02:29	#19
jaycee Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 57	I dunno about that... the embedded market seems to be standardising on either MIPS based architectures, or ARM. I belive Cisco still make high end switches and routers that use PowerPC, but I've a feeling they will soon move to ARM - especially as controller ASICs for that sort of thing are coming embedded with ARM cores.

04 September 2006, 12:10	#20
DJBase Amiga is my Religion Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 578	There are much more PPC based devices around than CISCO.

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