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It must be something I am doing wrong, I never did play with startup-sequences or libs back in the day (couldnt afford a hard drive either, so my Workbench skills were limited to using Say ). The 3.1's disks I use are ones I got from Amiga Forever, I imagine these are unmodified and shouldnt be contributing to this problem should they? |
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Is a bit weird you can't boot with 68040.library in there. I thought the whole idea of the 680x0.library was to bridge the gap and allow the system to tell you have a 68060.library. Having just checked it appears I don't have the 68040.library installed either and I never will need that as I only have 060's. Run with this mate if you can. Ignore that apollo lib I have btw. Last edited by rabidgerry; 17 November 2022 at 14:33. |
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I was looking to add the header to the TF1260 for the fan. Does anyone know the correct spec of head I need? They seem to be all different widths upon my research into this. Also right angled pins would be best yes? Figured it would be handier to connect to the card itself and have a shorter cable run. Frees up the connection I currently use tapping the 12v rail from the floppy header.
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17 November 2022, 12:35 | #486 |
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Setpatch should indeed detect the CPU and load the appropriate library to handle the differences in compatibility. The issue with the libraries is that the 68060 is unknown by Setpatch for OS 3.1 and before. Instead, it is identified as a 68040 and loads 68040.library. With an '060 installed, that needs to be a special, dummy version of 68040.library that loads the correct 68060.library instead - if you have an actual 68040.library there (e.g. the one that is supplied with 3.1), it probably won't work properly.
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This is why the mmulib installer patches setpatch for you to search for 680x0.library instead, which is the stub library in this case.
V46 and above setpatches don't need to be patched, and they don't need 680x0.library either. |
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17 November 2022, 14:58 | #489 |
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Yep as Chucky says just solder the wires to the holes as if you put a header there then it will foul with underside of the keyboard and you cant close the case and worse you will short it out
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I'll probably leave this then as if I solder wires directly it means the fan is permanently attached to the TF1260 and that just makes removal a little more awkward. Unless I wired a plug from the header further inwards? I dunno probably won't bother now. |
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I did not try a right angled header so you might be ok..but it might then foul with the CPU socket by the looks of it lol I did a fly lead with the header on the end Obviously I put a dummy cap on it if not in use to stop it shorting on anything https://i.imgur.com/1TPPDLy.jpg Last edited by supaduper; 17 November 2022 at 17:16. |
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Very good and nice idea
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Couldn't you have the angled header underneath the board or would there still not be enough clearance?
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Update on the 68060 detection - a dummy 68040.library has done it, showing as 68060 and correct score now. Maybe the MMULib installer didnt install correctly?
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Maybe.
Which stub 040 lib did you use? I believe the 0x0 lib included in mmulib also has some functionality in it, so ideally you should not mix and match cpu libraries from different sources. |
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May be but it would be awkward to access then I think. |
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This is indeed the case I as I had to use this when I was setting up for my Apollo 1260 and swap the dummy library I had for the Apollo with the 680x0.library. Glad you got sorted!! |
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So after plenty of faffing around because im the type of idiot who gets bugged out by the correct way not working .......
Turns out the SetPatch file used in the Amiga Forever 3.1 disks, despite being v40.16, is somehow different and MMULib does not recognise it, so doesnt apply the patch, meaning the 680x0.library never gets loaded and stays trying to read 68040.library (amazing what I can learn from reading the damn readme file, right? RTFM folks ). In the readme - it mentions all about the patch to setpatch, so when doing it manually following the intructions, I would always get this error, no matter what patch file I used - "Incorrect version of original file, This patch can not be applied to it Patch failed, File RAM:SetPatch.new not changed Hit Return" So I found a different WB3.1 disk online, grabbed the setpatch file from this, applied the patch, no errors, moved it to C: and rebooted. Now correctly working having only 680x0.library and 68060.library in the Libs drawer. Even went as far as doing a fresh install using the disks I found online, ran the installer, and it did everything for me without fault (the installer logs made no mention of patching SetPatch with Amiga Forever disks, on this one it now does). Blah, there you go Thanks everyone for your help with this! |
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Glad you got it fixed. |
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