Emulation of bridgeboard 2088XT with WinUAE - Page 2

Toni Wilen · 10 January 2016, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Let's get this straight ... the problem would survive until the next beta version if was not detected by Anna in the unofficial test version, right or wrong?

Ask this cause I usually use only last official or newer beta for testing!

No, it was just a special test version.

Rule is: don't talk about winuae.7z unless requested in same thread.

amilo3438 · 10 January 2016, 17:51

Ok, but if so why your answer was: "Works again now."?! (There was a problem or not?)

Toni Wilen · 10 January 2016, 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Ok, but if so why your answer was: "Works again now."?!

Because it was shortest possible answer.

This off topic ends to this post.

Gilloo · 13 January 2016, 22:34

I'm in a deadend.

With AmigaOS3.1, I have copied PC1: into PC3: change entry HiCyl=39 (instead 79) and set the unit to 3 in the icon.
In WinUAE, "Floppy drive" menu, DF3 5.25"SD
create custom disk forr 5.25"SD => 1028KB file.
PC-Task can format it as a 360K SD DF MSDOS.

But it seems to be unusable with the df2 set for the bridgeboard A: (40)
How to transform the 1028KB custom disk into a 360KB .img file ?

AnnaWu · 14 January 2016, 10:20

Not understand why you not use the standard PC disk image (*.img) size.

360KB/720KB
1.2MB/1.44MB

PC Bridge (80) support these formats.

Gilloo · 14 January 2016, 10:41

@AnnaWu,
Because I want to test 2088XT with 360KB disk and ABoot.ctrl
I don't have any .img PC disk image, only a 30MB hdd file in aboot format.

Toni Wilen · 14 January 2016, 10:54

ABoot image should work without any disk images. You sure you have correct paths and janus settings?

AnnaWu · 14 January 2016, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilloo

@AnnaWu,
Because I want to test 2088XT with 360KB disk and ABoot.ctrl
I don't have any .img PC disk image, only a 30MB hdd file in aboot format.

HTML Code:

ftp://ftp@grandis.nu:21/TheZone/files/_2015/Commodore_A1060-A2088_MSDOS_1987 [MS-DOS 3 Boot disk for Amiga A1060 Sidecar and A2088 Bridgeboard].zip

Password: ftp

Toni Wilen · 14 January 2016, 12:11

Attach or upload you extended adf pc (any other raw format accepted too if it is normally accepted by WinUAE in any Amiga drive) image to the zone. I'd like to add support but I am too lazy to create images as usual..

AnnaWu · 14 January 2016, 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Attach or upload you extended adf pc (any other raw format accepted too if it is normally accepted by WinUAE in any Amiga drive) image to the zone. I'd like to add support but I am too lazy to create images as usual..

Your comment was for Gilloo, right?
I do not know exactly what do mean with "extended adf pc".
If you want, I can upload a bootable disk image (DOS621.adf, 2.104.892 bytes) which is working on WinUAE and PC-Task 4.4

Toni Wilen · 14 January 2016, 19:03

You didn't parse parenthesis correctly, it clearly says "extended adf pc image"

Any bootable dos mfm level image is fine, including extended adf.

Toni Wilen · 14 January 2016, 19:44

And done.

http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.7z supports extended adf pc disk images in PC Bridge drives. (Possibly ipf and fdi too, if those exists)

Note that writing only modifies in-memory image. In other words, writing appears to work from PC point of view but nothing gets written to original image file.

AnnaWu · 14 January 2016, 19:50

Very nice.

I uploaded 2 Hard disk images too which are working on PC-Task/PCx (HardFile0) for the Amiga and several PC emulators for the PC (*.img)

amilo3438 · 14 January 2016, 20:09

Someone forgot to say thank you!

(so I will say it instead)

@Toni
Would that interest you if I said that there maybe some problem in the last unofficial winuae.7z? (I ask because I'm not sure whether it is contrary to one of the rules)

Toni Wilen · 14 January 2016, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnaWu

Very nice.

I uploaded 2 Hard disk images too which are working on PC-Task/PCx (HardFile0) for the Amiga and several PC emulators for the PC (*.img)

Just saying that they are normal HD images, nothing to do with MFM. (Labeled as MFM in the zone)

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Someone forgot to say thank you!

(so I will say it instead)

@Toni
Would that interest you if I said that there maybe some problem in the last unofficial winuae.7z? (I ask because I'm not sure whether it is contrary to one of the rules)

Send private message. It is the only acceptable way

amilo3438 · 14 January 2016, 20:58

@Toni
Ok but I decided to wait if the problem can not survive until the next beta version. (hope you do not mind)

AnnaWu · 14 January 2016, 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Just saying that they are normal HD images, nothing to do with MFM. (Labeled as MFM in the zone)

Understand, HD images removed.

Gilloo · 15 January 2016, 10:29

@AnnaWu thanks 360KB,
In fact .img can be done from the custom adf with the excellent tsgui http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/tsgui . So I can boot the emulated 2088XT. but only a: and fantom drive b: are present...

@Toni
SYS:PC/system/PC.boot contains text strings concerning the aboot.ctrl file.
PC.boot seems to be 8088 code, certainly loaded at startup by the janus.library.
I have set run >NIL: SYS:PC/pcdisk in the startup-sequence just after the bindrivers command.
Perhaps the bios are not really 2088XT... don't know how to diagnose or debug that.
I will try to make an image with the minimum for you.

I expected to find a 8088@4,77MHz, it shows NECV20@10,4MHz and it is really more nervous than PC-Task.

Gilloo · 15 January 2016, 10:45

@Toni (sorry it is in french, (french are crazy, but they own a lot of Amiga alive))
http://obligement.free.fr/articles/e...2088_a2000.php
Paste the section "Accès au disque dur" into google translate...
concerning INT 13H and PC.BOOT done in the shared memory.

AnnaWu · 15 January 2016, 10:56

Toni, any progress for the planned expansion sound card (AdLib or Sound Blaster) board emulation?

14 January 2016, 19:50	#33
AnnaWu Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 561	Very nice. I uploaded 2 Hard disk images too which are working on PC-Task/PCx (HardFile0) for the Amiga and several PC emulators for the PC (.img) Last edited by AnnaWu; 14 January 2016 at 20:01.*

14 January 2016, 20:09	#34
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,506	Someone forgot to say thank you! (so I will say it instead) @Toni Would that interest you if I said that there maybe some problem in the last unofficial winuae.7z? (I ask because I'm not sure whether it is contrary to one of the rules) Last edited by amilo3438; 14 January 2016 at 20:29.

15 January 2016, 10:29	#38
Gilloo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Grenoble, Isère, Rhône-Alpes, France, Europe, Earth Posts: 289	@AnnaWu thanks 360KB, In fact .img can be done from the custom adf with the excellent tsgui http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/tsgui . So I can boot the emulated 2088XT. but only a: and fantom drive b: are present... @Toni SYS:PC/system/PC.boot contains text strings concerning the aboot.ctrl file. PC.boot seems to be 8088 code, certainly loaded at startup by the janus.library. I have set run >NIL: SYS:PC/pcdisk in the startup-sequence just after the bindrivers command. Perhaps the bios are not really 2088XT... don't know how to diagnose or debug that. I will try to make an image with the minimum for you. I expected to find a 8088@4,77MHz, it shows NECV20@10,4MHz and it is really more nervous than PC-Task. Last edited by Gilloo; 15 January 2016 at 10:33. Reason: strange simleys...

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10 January 2016, 17:51	#22
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,506	Ok, but if so why your answer was: "Works again now."?! (There was a problem or not?)

13 January 2016, 22:34	#24
Gilloo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Grenoble, Isère, Rhône-Alpes, France, Europe, Earth Posts: 289	I'm in a deadend. With AmigaOS3.1, I have copied PC1: into PC3: change entry HiCyl=39 (instead 79) and set the unit to 3 in the icon. In WinUAE, "Floppy drive" menu, DF3 5.25"SD create custom disk forr 5.25"SD => 1028KB file. PC-Task can format it as a 360K SD DF MSDOS. But it seems to be unusable with the df2 set for the bridgeboard A: (40) How to transform the 1028KB custom disk into a 360KB .img file ?

14 January 2016, 10:20	#25
AnnaWu Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 561	Not understand why you not use the standard PC disk image (*.img) size. 360KB/720KB 1.2MB/1.44MB PC Bridge (80) support these formats.

14 January 2016, 10:41	#26
Gilloo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Grenoble, Isère, Rhône-Alpes, France, Europe, Earth Posts: 289	@AnnaWu, Because I want to test 2088XT with 360KB disk and ABoot.ctrl I don't have any .img PC disk image, only a 30MB hdd file in aboot format.

14 January 2016, 10:54	#27
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,518	ABoot image should work without any disk images. You sure you have correct paths and janus settings?

14 January 2016, 12:11	#29
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,518	Attach or upload you extended adf pc (any other raw format accepted too if it is normally accepted by WinUAE in any Amiga drive) image to the zone. I'd like to add support but I am too lazy to create images as usual..

14 January 2016, 19:03	#31
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,518	You didn't parse parenthesis correctly, it clearly says "extended adf pc image" Any bootable dos mfm level image is fine, including extended adf.

14 January 2016, 19:44	#32
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,518	And done. http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.7z supports extended adf pc disk images in PC Bridge drives. (Possibly ipf and fdi too, if those exists) Note that writing only modifies in-memory image. In other words, writing appears to work from PC point of view but nothing gets written to original image file.

14 January 2016, 20:58	#36
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,506	@Toni Ok but I decided to wait if the problem can not survive until the next beta version. (hope you do not mind)

15 January 2016, 10:45	#39
Gilloo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Grenoble, Isère, Rhône-Alpes, France, Europe, Earth Posts: 289	@Toni (sorry it is in french, (french are crazy, but they own a lot of Amiga alive)) http://obligement.free.fr/articles/e...2088_a2000.php Paste the section "Accès au disque dur" into google translate... concerning INT 13H and PC.BOOT done in the shared memory.

15 January 2016, 10:56	#40
AnnaWu Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 561	Toni, any progress for the planned expansion sound card (AdLib or Sound Blaster) board emulation?

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