How to use an amiga mouse under Windows?

TheFoxSoft · 03 January 2005, 17:53

I have an amiga trackball and i would like to reuse it on my PC with Windows ME.
Some good old MAME classics like Tehkan Soccer or Marble Madness require a trackball.
I have either a 4 player parallel adapter but it seems working fine with Joysticks but it doesn't capure mouse/trackball movements.
Have you got a solution?

thanks in advance

thomas · 03 January 2005, 18:17

You can't. All the electronics needed to track mouse movements is on the amiga motherboard but not on the PC motherboard. PC mouses have this electronics inside the mouse and send serial or PS/2 data to the PC.

However, you should be able to take the electronics from a PC mouse and use it to convert Amiga mouse impulses into PC serial data. But don't ask me, how to do it, I am no electronics specialist.

Perhaps you can take the instructions to turn a PC mouse into an Amiga mouse from Aminet and reverse it :-)

TheFoxSoft · 03 January 2005, 18:30

Thanks for the reply. I wonder is it possible via PPJoy?

TheFoxSoft · 03 January 2005, 22:27

I don't know why but with PPJoy my amiga mouse won't work.
I thought that a mouse or a joystick is almost identical, at least the signals emitted.

03 January 2005, 22:59

No luck with ppjoy here either. Luck is not the right word perhaps since Thomas explained it better.

TheFoxSoft · 04 January 2005, 02:13

this is really strange....
when i load the workbench without a mouse i can swirl the joystick to move the arrow pointer.
So joystick and mouse have the same "signal"!
I really don't undertsand why PPJoy can't catch mouse inputs

Amiga1992 · 04 January 2005, 05:13

PPjoy is prepared to decode the signals coming from a DIGITAL joystick, not from an ANALOG mouse. That's why it wouldn't work I guess.

lpopman · 05 January 2005, 00:49

Amiga mice work by sending motion signals as 'ticks' to the joystick port. These in turn are converted by the amiga hardware into motion deltas (differences in distance travelled by the mouse), which is why you can waggle the joystick and get movement of the pointer. To get it to work with PPJOY you would need a very specific driver.

@Akira: The mice are digital not analog anyway

03 January 2005, 17:53	#1
TheFoxSoft KO2 world champion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rome (Italy) Age: 44 Posts: 99	How to use an amiga mouse under Windows? I have an amiga trackball and i would like to reuse it on my PC with Windows ME. Some good old MAME classics like Tehkan Soccer or Marble Madness require a trackball. I have either a 4 player parallel adapter but it seems working fine with Joysticks but it doesn't capure mouse/trackball movements. Have you got a solution? thanks in advance

05 January 2005, 00:49	#8
lpopman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Coventry / England Age: 53 Posts: 37	Amiga mice work by sending motion signals as 'ticks' to the joystick port. These in turn are converted by the amiga hardware into motion deltas (differences in distance travelled by the mouse), which is why you can waggle the joystick and get movement of the pointer. To get it to work with PPJOY you would need a very specific driver. @Akira: The mice are digital not analog anyway Last edited by lpopman; 05 January 2005 at 00:57.

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03 January 2005, 18:17	#2
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,021	You can't. All the electronics needed to track mouse movements is on the amiga motherboard but not on the PC motherboard. PC mouses have this electronics inside the mouse and send serial or PS/2 data to the PC. However, you should be able to take the electronics from a PC mouse and use it to convert Amiga mouse impulses into PC serial data. But don't ask me, how to do it, I am no electronics specialist. Perhaps you can take the instructions to turn a PC mouse into an Amiga mouse from Aminet and reverse it :-)

03 January 2005, 18:30	#3
TheFoxSoft KO2 world champion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rome (Italy) Age: 44 Posts: 99	Thanks for the reply. I wonder is it possible via PPJoy?

03 January 2005, 22:27	#4
TheFoxSoft KO2 world champion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rome (Italy) Age: 44 Posts: 99	I don't know why but with PPJoy my amiga mouse won't work. I thought that a mouse or a joystick is almost identical, at least the signals emitted.

03 January 2005, 22:59	#5
oldpx Posts: n/a	No luck with ppjoy here either. Luck is not the right word perhaps since Thomas explained it better.

04 January 2005, 02:13	#6
TheFoxSoft KO2 world champion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rome (Italy) Age: 44 Posts: 99	this is really strange.... when i load the workbench without a mouse i can swirl the joystick to move the arrow pointer. So joystick and mouse have the same "signal"! I really don't undertsand why PPJoy can't catch mouse inputs

04 January 2005, 05:13	#7
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	PPjoy is prepared to decode the signals coming from a DIGITAL joystick, not from an ANALOG mouse. That's why it wouldn't work I guess.

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