Windows VHD mounter

mritter0 · 06 April 2015, 20:16

What we really need to get files to/from Windows/OS4 is on the Windows side take pieces from WinUAE that handle the VHD drives and mount it like a virtual CD drive does.

Make a small program that mounts the VHD as a device so we can access files (cut, copy, paste, view pics, etc). It would have to totally share control so both sides can have simultaneous access; no long term exclusive locks.

Sounds easy enough on paper. I am not a Windows programmer so....

thomas · 06 April 2015, 23:11

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...65#post1010765

mritter0 · 07 April 2015, 20:44

What I really want to do is use my Windows text editor to edit my programming files. Load/Save like regular files on both sides. I have been using FTP to get files back and forth, but it is an extra step.

Can I load a .c file from the Amiga side in my Windows text editor, makes changes, save it (on the Amiga side), switch to WinUAE and Make it?

hceline · 07 April 2015, 22:05

http://www.viksoe.dk/adfview/

mritter0 · 08 April 2015, 03:07

Like adfview, but for HDF and/or VHD.

Vot · 08 April 2015, 04:30

What would be great would be someone to write a proper filesystem driver for OFS, FFS and PFS for windows (like ext3 for windows) and also to support hdf files. That way you could natively read amiga hdd,s and hdf partitions on windows just like any other. Sadly although you would need someone with pretty good skills to do it.

mritter0 · 08 April 2015, 04:33

@Thomas: I installed Amiga Explorer. On OS4.1FE it crashes immediately.

EDIT:

Hmmm....if I don't run it from User-Startup like it says to in the doc, and manually start it with a double click, it runs. I can't connect to it from Windows side.

What am I supposed to use for an IP Address for the Amiga? (127.0.0.0 is default) I added the slirp_ports=356 to my config.

EDIT2:

I get a TCP/IP connection error on Windows side. Says to "ping 127.0.0.0" to see if Amiga side responds. It does not. I can't "ping google.com" on the Amiga side, either.

Is the TCP/IP stack not running by default? I can surf the web.

Hewitson · 08 April 2015, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vot

What would be great would be someone to write a proper filesystem driver for OFS, FFS and PFS for windows (like ext3 for windows) and also to support hdf files. That way you could natively read amiga hdd,s and hdf partitions on windows just like any other. Sadly although you would need someone with pretty good skills to do it.

You probably already know this but I'll post it for the benefit of others. Linux has been capable of doing all of these (except PFS) for years.

thomas · 08 April 2015, 10:55

Localhost a.k.a. 127.0.0.1 is the default. 127.0.0.0 is not a valid IP address.

Ping does not work with WinUAE's network emulation, that's ok.

Make sure that AExplorer is running. If you run it again, it will be stopped.

Make sure that AExplorer says Connection: TCP/IP when you run it.

Check if WinUAE ist listening on port 356 (use netstat /a). If you have a firewall make sure that WinUAE is allowed to listen.

You can add AExplorer to s:network-startup to run it automatically.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mritter0

@Thomas: I installed Amiga Explorer. On OS4.1FE it crashes immediately.

EDIT:

Hmmm....if I don't run it from User-Startup like it says to in the doc, and manually start it with a double click, it runs. I can't connect to it from Windows side.

What am I supposed to use for an IP Address for the Amiga? (127.0.0.0 is default) I added the slirp_ports=356 to my config.

EDIT2:

I get a TCP/IP connection error on Windows side. Says to "ping 127.0.0.0" to see if Amiga side responds. It does not. I can't "ping google.com" on the Amiga side, either.

Is the TCP/IP stack not running by default? I can surf the web.

Toni Wilen · 08 April 2015, 11:14

Simultaneous access won't ever work. You can't force full cache flushes, there is always something cached (in device or filesystem or even application level, like locks)

Only correct fix is to find some OS4 developer that can help with implemention of working "uae" device support.

Vot · 08 April 2015, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewitson

You probably already know this but I'll post it for the benefit of others. Linux has been capable of doing all of these (except PFS) for years.

Yes i know, but would be great windows side.. I did actually have a look at the ext3fs windows source.. Was a bit beyond my skills although

. Someone go to this http://www.osr.com/seminars/file-systems/ and write them for us

mark_k · 08 April 2015, 13:04

It is possible to share a folder on your PC, then use something like smbfs on the emulated Amiga to access it?

thomas · 08 April 2015, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark_k

It is possible to share a folder on your PC, then use something like smbfs on the emulated Amiga to access it?

This would be the simplest solution, but SMBFS does not like Win Vista or above. It works perfectly with Win XP and it also works great with an external NAS drive.

hceline · 08 April 2015, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by mritter0

Like adfview, but for HDF and/or VHD.

adfview do support Amiga harddisks.
Not sure about HDF but I have a vague memory of them working too.

Edit: ADFOpus does support HDF according to their homepage. And as both are based of adflib, I guess my memory of adfview supporting hdf is correct.

mritter0 · 08 April 2015, 23:22

I just installed ADFview.....it works great with floppies. But not with VHDs. It might with HDFs, but I don't have any right now to test.

@Thomas: So you are saying that if I got a NAS box (like a Western Digital box) I could of course see it in Windows, but OS4.1FE could also see it with SMBFS installed? I quickly tried to install it before and got nowhere. Do you have a config you could share to speed up the process?

thomas · 09 April 2015, 08:03

Something like this?

Code:

smbfs workgroup "workgroup" service "//wdbox/public" user "mritter" password "S3cRe1" device "WD0" volume "WDBox"

[/code]

mritter0 · 09 April 2015, 18:26

Thanks. I still have to get a NAS box; I have always wanted one, just not much need for it until now.

thomas · 09 April 2015, 19:34

You could also use something like this in a virtual machine or on an old PC:

http://www.nas4free.org/
http://www.freenas.org/

mritter0 · 13 May 2015, 03:52

@Thomas:

I bought a WD MyCloud EX2 NAS box and have it set up and running fine.
I installed Samba. Used this guide: Samba guide
Use your above line.
Does not work.

I think it is because I don't have a static IP with WinUAE and OS4.1FE. If I set one I lose internet connection. Every other guide I have looked at says to use a static IP. They all assume I have an actual Amiga, not using WinUAE. Any idea on how to get around this?

thomas · 13 May 2015, 12:27

You don't need Samba.
You don't need static IPs.
You don't need any changes in the TCP/IP config.

All you need is smbfs in C:.

"Does not work" is not a very detailed description, is it?

06 April 2015, 20:16	#1
mritter0 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bettendorf, IA, USA Age: 52 Posts: 204	Windows VHD mounter What we really need to get files to/from Windows/OS4 is on the Windows side take pieces from WinUAE that handle the VHD drives and mount it like a virtual CD drive does. Make a small program that mounts the VHD as a device so we can access files (cut, copy, paste, view pics, etc). It would have to totally share control so both sides can have simultaneous access; no long term exclusive locks. Sounds easy enough on paper. I am not a Windows programmer so....

08 April 2015, 04:30	#6
Vot Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 651	Windows VHD mounter What would be great would be someone to write a proper filesystem driver for OFS, FFS and PFS for windows (like ext3 for windows) and also to support hdf files. That way you could natively read amiga hdd,s and hdf partitions on windows just like any other. Sadly although you would need someone with pretty good skills to do it.

08 April 2015, 04:33	#7
mritter0 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bettendorf, IA, USA Age: 52 Posts: 204	@Thomas: I installed Amiga Explorer. On OS4.1FE it crashes immediately. EDIT: Hmmm....if I don't run it from User-Startup like it says to in the doc, and manually start it with a double click, it runs. I can't connect to it from Windows side. What am I supposed to use for an IP Address for the Amiga? (127.0.0.0 is default) I added the slirp_ports=356 to my config. EDIT2: I get a TCP/IP connection error on Windows side. Says to "ping 127.0.0.0" to see if Amiga side responds. It does not. I can't "ping google.com" on the Amiga side, either. Is the TCP/IP stack not running by default? I can surf the web. Last edited by mritter0; 08 April 2015 at 04:52.

09 April 2015, 08:03	#16
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,008	Something like this? Code: smbfs workgroup "workgroup" service "//wdbox/public" user "mritter" password "S3cRe1" device "WD0" volume "WDBox" [/code]

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06 April 2015, 23:11	#2
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,008	http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...65#post1010765

07 April 2015, 20:44	#3
mritter0 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bettendorf, IA, USA Age: 52 Posts: 204	What I really want to do is use my Windows text editor to edit my programming files. Load/Save like regular files on both sides. I have been using FTP to get files back and forth, but it is an extra step. Can I load a .c file from the Amiga side in my Windows text editor, makes changes, save it (on the Amiga side), switch to WinUAE and Make it?

07 April 2015, 22:05	#4
hceline Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Top of the world Posts: 161	http://www.viksoe.dk/adfview/

08 April 2015, 03:07	#5
mritter0 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bettendorf, IA, USA Age: 52 Posts: 204	Like adfview, but for HDF and/or VHD.

08 April 2015, 11:14	#10
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,534	Simultaneous access won't ever work. You can't force full cache flushes, there is always something cached (in device or filesystem or even application level, like locks) Only correct fix is to find some OS4 developer that can help with implemention of working "uae" device support.

08 April 2015, 13:04	#12
mark_k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Posts: 3,344	It is possible to share a folder on your PC, then use something like smbfs on the emulated Amiga to access it?

08 April 2015, 23:22	#15
mritter0 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bettendorf, IA, USA Age: 52 Posts: 204	I just installed ADFview.....it works great with floppies. But not with VHDs. It might with HDFs, but I don't have any right now to test. @Thomas: So you are saying that if I got a NAS box (like a Western Digital box) I could of course see it in Windows, but OS4.1FE could also see it with SMBFS installed? I quickly tried to install it before and got nowhere. Do you have a config you could share to speed up the process?

09 April 2015, 18:26	#17
mritter0 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bettendorf, IA, USA Age: 52 Posts: 204	Thanks. I still have to get a NAS box; I have always wanted one, just not much need for it until now.

09 April 2015, 19:34	#18
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,008	You could also use something like this in a virtual machine or on an old PC: http://www.nas4free.org/ http://www.freenas.org/

13 May 2015, 03:52	#19
mritter0 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bettendorf, IA, USA Age: 52 Posts: 204	@Thomas: I bought a WD MyCloud EX2 NAS box and have it set up and running fine. I installed Samba. Used this guide: Samba guide Use your above line. Does not work. I think it is because I don't have a static IP with WinUAE and OS4.1FE. If I set one I lose internet connection. Every other guide I have looked at says to use a static IP. They all assume I have an actual Amiga, not using WinUAE. Any idea on how to get around this?

13 May 2015, 12:27	#20
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,008	You don't need Samba. You don't need static IPs. You don't need any changes in the TCP/IP config. All you need is smbfs in C:. "Does not work" is not a very detailed description, is it?

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