Game credits

Don_Adan · 24 October 2009, 16:47

Why PC credits are stored for Amiga versions? For example music for Hannibal and Space M.A.X. games was done by Chris Link, perhaps prograammer/coder is also different, only graphics info is perhaps correct.

TCD · 29 August 2010, 18:11

A bit late, but fixed. If anyone owns those games, it would be great if they could look up the credits in the manual.

Don_Adan · 30 August 2010, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

A bit late, but fixed. If anyone owns those games, it would be great if they could look up the credits in the manual.

Chris Link made music for SkyWorker game too.

TCD · 30 August 2010, 16:56

Thanks, added.

Don_Adan · 19 September 2010, 14:54

Space MAX credits:

Program: Rene Straub
Music : Chris Link (ACA)
$VER: SpaceMAX 1.15 by Rene Straub

Hannibal credits:

Final Ver. V1.23(2.7.1993)
$VER: Hannibal V1.23 (2.7.1993) by Daniel Blatter

You can add also PC credits, due PC graphics were converted to Amiga. Perhaps some C code too, and maybe music too.

TCD · 19 September 2010, 15:15

Thanks

Added the graphics and misc credits from the PC version as well.

Don_Adan · 19 September 2010, 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Thanks

Added the graphics and misc credits from the PC version as well.

BTW. Thomas Lopatic coded next Amiga games:
Der Preiss ist Heiss
Gluecksrad
Riskant
Wetten Dass...?

TCD · 19 September 2010, 15:34

Thanks again and added to HOL.

Don_Adan · 30 September 2010, 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Thanks again and added to HOL.

OK. More fixes.
Next Amiga games has no musics:

688 Attack Sub
http://hol.abime.net/2367

Retaliator

http://hol.abime.net/480

But musician are credited. Or maybe you know/have Amiga version within music? Only Atari ST version of Retaliator has music. Perhaps Amiga version of Retaliator was created after Atari ST version.

TCD · 30 September 2010, 18:26

Thanks, 688 fixed. F29 Retaliator gives credit for both music and sound effects to Matthew Cannon, so it stays. The 'slot' is for both, but maybe that gets changed... sometime

Belgarath · 30 September 2010, 18:49

The "musician" field is probably my biggest annoyance in hol and has been for a long time.

Don_Adan · 30 September 2010, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Thanks, 688 fixed. F29 Retaliator gives credit for both music and sound effects to Matthew Cannon, so it stays. The 'slot' is for both, but maybe that gets changed... sometime

If I remember right exist two original versions of F-29 Retaliator. First has two disks and second only one, Matthew Cannon is credited to sound effects only for second (newest) version, due Amiga version has no music.

TCD · 30 September 2010, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

If I remember right exist two original versions of F-29 Retaliator. First has two disks and second only one, Matthew Cannon is credited to sound effects only for second (newest) version, due Amiga version has no music.

The only hint for a one disk version I can find is the Skid Row crack and you can see the decrunch 'rainbow', so I think it's rather a 'one disk' version made by them. The SPS (2 disk) release doesn't show the credits screen, but the sound effects are the same as the scene version that does. Do you have any other info about it?

Don_Adan · 01 October 2010, 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

The only hint for a one disk version I can find is the Skid Row crack and you can see the decrunch 'rainbow', so I think it's rather a 'one disk' version made by them. The SPS (2 disk) release doesn't show the credits screen, but the sound effects are the same as the scene version that does. Do you have any other info about it?

Skid Row crack is different game version, created later by game authors. This is perhaps rare original enough version, but must exist in some game collections. This version uses SSUR packer (Russ Payne Packer) and Skid Row don't have access to this cruncher, due this is one from DID crunchers. Also if I remember right exists two versions of 2-disked game, one has credits similar to one disk version. I tested all available Retaliator version, when I try to find version within music. Perhaps you can split some infos in HOL, f.e. also Epic has two versions, first version works only from disks and second only from HD (was part of A600HD). SPS collection is not complete for most Amiga titles.

TCD · 01 October 2010, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

SPS collection is not complete for most Amiga titles.

I know. I will discuss those infos and how to deal with them later. Still the fact that the credit screen doesn't show up in some versions doesn't mean the effects aren't done by the same artist (especially if they are the same).

Don_Adan · 02 October 2010, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

I know. I will discuss those infos and how to deal with them later. Still the fact that the credit screen doesn't show up in some versions doesn't mean the effects aren't done by the same artist (especially if they are the same).

For me 2 disks (cracked ?) version of Retaliator looks like beta/prefinal/stolen version and contains some incorrect infos. Of course Matthew Cannon made SFX for this game, but no music was used in Amiga versions of this game.

TCD · 02 October 2010, 13:46

Like I said above, the 'musician' field is used for both musc and sound effects.

Don_Adan · 08 October 2010, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Like I said above, the 'musician' field is used for both musc and sound effects.

OK. Here are full credits for two Dizzy games, you can update some entries (f.e. Magicland graphician), if you want:

Credits for Magicland Dizzy go to the following:-
Amiga & ST programming by
Derek Leigh-Gilchrist
Amiga & ST graphics by
Leigh-Christian
Game design by
The Oliver Twins & Neil Vincent
Original Spectrum & Amstrad versions by
Big Red Software Ltd.
Project Directors
Tim Miller & Paul Ranson

Greetings are going out to the following
The Codemasters bunch (part 1)
David Darling
Abigail Darling
Liz Darling
Richard Darling
Jim Darling
Gavin Raeburn
Jon Menzies
Peter Williamson
Andrew & Philip Oliver
Mark Baldock
Lyndon Sharp
Graham Rigby
Brain Hartley
Leigh Christian

The Codemasters bunch (part 2)
Paul Adams
Toby Ecclesfield
Paul 'Snacky' Perrot
Damon Redmond
Shan Savage
Stuart Regan
Penny Oddy
Shelia Smith
Mike Clarke
Paul Ranson
Tim Miller
Clare Lucas
Marion McVarish
Ted Carron

Friends (part 1)
Charlie Skilbeck
Richard Aplin
Tim Cannell
Jon 'JMP' Phillips
Dave 'E' Cantrell
Tim Mann
Ashley Hogg
Krister 'silly name' Wombell
Dan (The Core Design man!)
Alex Slater
Rob 'protection man' Northern
Adam 'SPEX' Lucas
Dan Clapson
Richard Kyjak

Friends (part 2)
Mark 'fish' Salmon
Russell Wark
Jolyon 'idiot' Ralph
Matthew Simmonds
Joby 'ex-artist' Wood
Gareth 'E' Price
Noel 'E' Johnson
Jonah Richards
David Clarke
Steve Barrett
David Hunt
Kris Penny
Alan Smith
Mazier Darvish

Family
Jane Leigh-Gilchrist (MUM)
Gordon Leigh-Gilchrist (DAD)
Tanya Leigh-Gilchrist (SISTER)
Margret Brown (Granny)
Alex Brown (Grandpa)
Wendy Brown (Aunty)
Mo Leigh-Gilchrist (Aunty)

Albums I listened to while programming this game
Love Sexy (PRINCE)
Purple Rain (PRINCE)
Graffiti Bridge (PRINCE)
Parade (PRINCE)
Sign Of The Times (PRINCE)
Around The World In A Day (PRINCE)
Controversy (PRINCE)
Batman (PRINCE)
1999 (PRINCE)
Dirty Mind (PRINCE)
For You (PRINCE)
Prince (PRINCE)
Pandemonium (THE TIME)
Love Over Gold (DIRE STRAIGHTS)
Real Life (SIMPLE MINDS)
Joshua Tree (U2)
Infected (THE THE)
Mind Bomb (THE THE)
Soul Mining (THE THE)
Dark Side Of The Moon (PINK FLOYD)
Immaculate Collection (MADDONNA)

Groups I have been in (in the past)
Share & Enjoy
Scoopex
XXX International
Mayhem
Reaktor
Anarchy
Slipstream

Games I have programmed
Battle Valley (Amiga only)
SPOT (ST)
Pub Trivia (Amiga & ST)
Magicland Dizzy (Amiga & ST)

Crystal Kingdom Dizzy
CREDITS

Game Design ............. Dave Thompson
Craig Kelsall
Paul Ranson
Brian Hartley
Producer ............... Duncan Kershaw
Design Consultant ....... Philip Oliver
Programming ............... Andy Severn
Playtesting ............... Steve Wyatt
David Ward
Graphics ................ Brian Hartley
Peter Austin
Damon Redmond
Maps .................... Brian Hartley
Music .................. Gerard Gourley
Sound FX Sampling ............ Tau Zero
Sound Programming ......... Andy Severn
CD32 Conversion ............ Kevin Kiff

Version Dates :
CD32 Crystal Kingdom Dizzy V 1.0
Program code : 28-05-1994.

Ram Data Disk: 28-05-1994.

TCD · 08 October 2010, 21:02

Thanks, I'll have a look tomorrow.

Don_Adan · 10 October 2010, 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Thanks, I'll have a look tomorrow.

Ok. If you have more spare time, you can add/update credits for Simulmondo games (f.e. Diabolik 12):
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=43308

24 October 2009, 16:47	#1
Don_Adan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Warsaw/Poland Age: 55 Posts: 1,979	Game credits Why PC credits are stored for Amiga versions? For example music for Hannibal and Space M.A.X. games was done by Chris Link, perhaps prograammer/coder is also different, only graphics info is perhaps correct.

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29 August 2010, 18:11	#2
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,622	A bit late, but fixed. If anyone owns those games, it would be great if they could look up the credits in the manual.

30 August 2010, 16:56	#4
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,622	Thanks, added.

19 September 2010, 14:54	#5
Don_Adan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Warsaw/Poland Age: 55 Posts: 1,979	Space MAX credits: Program: Rene Straub Music : Chris Link (ACA) $VER: SpaceMAX 1.15 by Rene Straub Hannibal credits: Final Ver. V1.23(2.7.1993) $VER: Hannibal V1.23 (2.7.1993) by Daniel Blatter You can add also PC credits, due PC graphics were converted to Amiga. Perhaps some C code too, and maybe music too.

19 September 2010, 15:15	#6
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,622	Thanks Added the graphics and misc credits from the PC version as well.

19 September 2010, 15:34	#8
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,622	Thanks again and added to HOL.

30 September 2010, 18:26	#10
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,622	Thanks, 688 fixed. F29 Retaliator gives credit for both music and sound effects to Matthew Cannon, so it stays. The 'slot' is for both, but maybe that gets changed... sometime

30 September 2010, 18:49	#11
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,515	The "musician" field is probably my biggest annoyance in hol and has been for a long time.

02 October 2010, 13:46	#17
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,622	Like I said above, the 'musician' field is used for both musc and sound effects.

08 October 2010, 21:02	#19
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,622	Thanks, I'll have a look tomorrow.

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