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Old 12 December 2012, 11:00   #1
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Descent DXX-Rebirth AGA/RTG

I couldn't get very far with Hyperion's Descent port so I decided to just do my own.

So after 3 attempts to port this (and 2 months work!), here's the first video -> [ Show youtube player ]

Blurb: DXX-Rebirth is a Source Port of the Descent and Descent 2 Engines for Windows, Mac OS, Linux (most *NIX systems), offering OpenGL graphics and effects, advanced Multiplayer, many improvements and new features.

http://www.dxx-rebirth.com/

As you guys know, I'm busy at the moment working on NetSurf AGA now so I won't be able to give this port much time (and Descent still needs lots of work before I'd release it).

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http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/D1X_Rebirth_RTG

http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/D1X_Rebirth_AGA

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Old 13 December 2012, 21:00   #2
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NetSurf and Descent - two wonderful projects, thanks for taking the time to do them!

Cannot wait to see your progress with these - absolutely superb!

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Old 13 December 2012, 21:44   #3
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Old 09 April 2013, 08:38   #4
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Now that my work on Quake 2 is winding down, I'm back on this one.

I'm hoping that it won't be *too* hard to port to AGA, I've basically got it working now 100% in RTG (using the SDL).

This is the basic project plan, which is the same as for my other 68k ports:

1) Rip out all of the nasty old SDL code
2) Replace the ripped out bits with new native Amiga code (AGA graphics, AHI sound)
3) Make it fast enough to be playable on my A1200
4) Release it

The big unknown at this stage is the color depth, if it doesn't support 8bit for the game graphics then that may be a problem but I think it should be ok as the original game was in 8 bit.

The other part of this project that's a bit scary is the joystick handling code as I've never worked with Amiga joystick handling routines before.

Another option would be to update the 68k SDL to add AGA support, not sure which is harder.

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Old 09 April 2013, 21:04   #5
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I think that someone must do a serious update to SDL to make it "fast" with AGA. It would be good to do other ports.
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Old 10 April 2013, 04:30   #6
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I think that someone must do a serious update to SDL to make it "fast" with AGA. It would be good to do other ports.
Ok Arti just sent me his new RTG SDL (v1.2.14c), I'm going to try and build a cut-down AGA version from it.

If I can get this to work, I should make it a lot easier to port things to 68k AGA. I have tried to do this before a couple of times with the old 68k SDL and failed miserably so don't hold your breath

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Old 10 April 2013, 20:18   #7
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I trust in you Nova! Nobody wants to use SDL for AGA cos its speed but if you can address it would be great!
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Old 10 April 2013, 22:38   #8
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You can do this, you will do it!
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Old 11 April 2013, 05:21   #9
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Thanks for the support guys

So far so good....

Code:
Compiler: m68k-Amiga-OS3
Building Makefile: "C:\CrossCompiler\AmiDevCpp\workspaces\Descent\Makefile.win"
Executing  make...
mingw32-make.exe -f "C:\CrossCompiler\AmiDevCpp\workspaces\Descent\Makefile.win" all 
m68k-amigaos-g++.exe objects/ai.o objects/fireball.o objects/game.o
 objects/tmerge.o objects/2dsline.o objects/bitblt.o objects/bitmap.o objects/box.o objects/canvas.o objects/circle.o 
 objects/disc.o objects/font.o objects/gpixel.o objects/line.o objects/palette.o objects/pcx.o objects/pixel.o objects/poly.o 
 objects/rect.o objects/rle.o objects/scalec.o objects/setup.o objects/clipper.o objects/draw.o objects/globvars.o 
 objects/instance.o objects/interp.o objects/matrix.o objects/points.o objects/rod.o objects/songs.o objects/state.o
 objects/switch.o objects/terrain.o objects/texmerge.o objects/text.o objects/titles.o objects/vclip.o objects/wall.o 
 objects/weapon.o objects/endlevel.o objects/gamecntl.o objects/gamefont.o objects/gamemine.o objects/gamerend.o 
 objects/gamesave.o objects/gameseg.o objects/gameseq.o objects/gauges.o objects/hash.o objects/hostage.o objects/hud.o 
 objects/inferno.o objects/kconfig.o objects/laser.o objects/lighting.o objects/menu.o objects/mglobal.o objects/mission.o
 objects/morph.o objects/object.o objects/paging.o objects/physics.o objects/piggy.o objects/player.o objects/playsave.o 
 objects/polyobj.o objects/powerup.o objects/render.o objects/robot.o objects/scores.o objects/slew.o objects/vecmat.o 
 objects/fixc.o objects/rand.o objects/tables.o objects/mem.o objects/digiobj.o objects/console.o objects/collide.o 
 objects/effects.o objects/fvi.o objects/aipath.o objects/bm.o objects/fuelcen.o objects/controls.o objects/bmread.o 
 objects/cntrlcen.o objects/config.o objects/gr.o objects/newdemo.o objects/newmenu.o objects/timer.o objects/window.o 
 objects/scanline.o objects/tmapflat.o objects/ntmap.o objects/dl_list.o objects/error.o objects/hmp.o objects/physfsx.o
 objects/strio.o objects/strutil.o objects/args.o objects/compare.o objects/event.o objects/automap.o objects/key.o 
 objects/mouse.o objects/rbaudio.o objects/digi.o objects/digi_audio.o objects/iff.o objects/joy.o objects/snddecom.o 
 objects/custom.o objects/credits.o objects/ignorecase.o objects/missing.o objects/init.o objects/physfs.o 
 objects/physfs_byteorder.o objects/physfs_amigaos3.o objects/dir.o objects/hog.o objects/physfs_unicode.o -o 
 "bin\D1X_Rebirth.exe" -L"C:/CrossCompiler/AmiDevCpp/usr/local/amiga/m68k-amigaos/lib" 
 -L"C:/CrossCompiler/AmiDevCpp/usr/local/amiga/m68k-amigaos/lib/libb/libnix" -s -noixemul 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_yuv_sw.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_active.o 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_ahiaudio.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_audio.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_audiocvt.o 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_blit.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_blit_0.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_blit_1.o 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_blit_A.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_blit_N.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_bmp.o 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_cdrom.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_cpuinfo.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_cursor.o 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_error.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_events.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_fatal.o 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_joystick.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_keyboard.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_mixer.o 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_mouse.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_nullevents.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_nullmouse.o 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_nullvideo.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_pixels.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_quit.o 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_resize.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_RLEaccel.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_rwops.o 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_stretch.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_string.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_surface.o 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_syscdrom.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_syscond.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_sysjoystick.o
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_sysmutex.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_syssem.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_systhread.o
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_systimer.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_thread.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_timer.o 
 ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_video.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_wave.o ../SDL_AGA/objects/SDL_yuv.o  

Execution terminated
Compilation successful
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Old 11 April 2013, 21:10   #10
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Some bits of magic from our wizard NovaCoder.
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Old 11 April 2013, 23:00   #11
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I've never commented on your work before, but kudos to you, doing some great things with Amiga, top stuff
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Am I going to be able to run this on my A1200 with ACA1231/42? I can't see any spec details on your links.

And thanks for your time and effort you are putting into your projects!
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Yep, i like this project too. One question though, won't AHI use more CPU than native audio? As it's made for AGA why not native audio?

Or perhaps the difference is very small CPU wise ?
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Am I going to be able to run this on my A1200 with ACA1231/42? I can't see any spec details on your links.

And thanks for your time and effort you are putting into your projects!
Thanks

These ports will be 060 only I'm afraid, I don't think an 030 or even 040 would be able to handle them, sorry.


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Yep, i like this project too. One question though, won't AHI use more CPU than native audio? As it's made for AGA why not native audio?

Or perhaps the difference is very small CPU wise ?
Yep AHI is slightly slower but there's not much in it. The main reason for using AHI is that's it's easier to code for.
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These ports will be 060 only I'm afraid, I don't think an 030 or even 040 would be able to handle them, sorry.
Actually, if the Rebirth version of Descent is as efficient as the originals, there is a chance of it being playable on an 040. I recall playing the original on a Virge and 040@25MHz at slow but reasonable speeds with visuals turned down. I get like 60fps on my Voodoo 4 (Warp3D version) and 68060@75MHz with maximum visuals. The 3D engine is significantly simpler than the Quake engine but more demanding than Doom. An FPU would still be required.
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Ok made a little more progress with this project.

Manage to get a basic (cut down) version of the SDL working under AGA

Here you can see it running Descent Rebirth in AGA mode for the first time

Still lots of work to do of course, I've got some issues with the SDL audio at the moment (it just hangs if I enable it).

I've also got to copy&paste the input handling over from the RTG version of the SDL that I'm using to create this version.


You'll also notice that the colors are off in Descent, this isn't a bug with my new AGA SDL library, it's because Descent itself expects the graphics to be in 16bit minimum. I don't think this is a show-stopper though because the game itself was originally written for 8 bit displays (and I have the source code), so I should be able to fix that up

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Great effort as always. Does it mean that your SDL version has video enabled? You're an Amiga hero!
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Yep it has video, also timer and input should be no problem to copy across (mouse/keyboard/joystick).

The problem area is sound (which also needs threading), not sure about including that yet as it can be painful.
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Has these changes increase the performance? Seems good news
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Has these changes increase the performance? Seems good news
If you're talking about compared to Hyperion's old Descent port then it's too early to say at this stage but we'll see (finger's crossed).

If you mean compared to the old 68k SDL libraries, I don't think any of them were released with AGA support?

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