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s2325 · 17 August 2007, 14:18

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turrican3 · 17 August 2007, 14:21

the cdi version was the best.
it used the fullmotion video card.

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now for the playability i never played this version.

s2325 · 17 August 2007, 14:27

no, C64 version was the best:

turrican3 · 17 August 2007, 14:35

best playability certainly

laser · 17 August 2007, 22:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

the cdi version was the best.
it used the fullmotion video card.

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now for the playability i never played this version.

the cdi version of Microcosm never was realesed ..I don't know where they get that videos

btw,the sega cd can do 64 colours at the same time..the cd32 can do 256
but in this particular game I feel that the cd32 version contains only 64 colours....

because was directly ported without enchancements and because the cd32 can't do it fast at a 256 colour screen

another example is the game Flink cd32...also ported from the Sega CD
and again the sega cd version was better...(professedly) with less colours

bye

laser · 17 August 2007, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325

no, C64 version was the best:

yeeeeeeeeeees !! this is the best version you are right !!

turrican3 · 18 August 2007, 03:57

sorry laser but look at the 2 pictures don't tell me that there is no difference of colors and the megacd graphics are better

first one on the left megacd second one cd32.
If you told me that the megacd has best graphics, we could make a poll

Retro-Nerd · 18 August 2007, 04:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

sorry laser but look at the 2 pictures don't tell me that there is no difference of colors and the megacd graphics are better

first one on the left megacd second one cd32.
If you told me that the megacd has best graphics, we could make a poll

Crap and crap with more colors.

viddi · 18 August 2007, 09:57

I like it and just played it two days ago!
I have to admit though that it´s not THAT fascinating as it was back in 1994.

Why not program a slave that accesses the Microcosm-CD?

I can imagine many more games needing this kind of "drivers".
E.g. Shadow of the Third moon (in various versions for 030,040,060),
Joyride,...and all the other buggy games from 1996-2000.

Galahad/FLT · 18 August 2007, 10:01

Microcosm simply isn't worth the effort to code a slave for.

Everyone is agreed that its a poor imitation of a game, lots of people don't own it as an original, it was never 'cracked' because of its lack of playability, and the work required to make it possible for it to 'play' under WHDLoad is effort that would be better spent elsewhere.

I can confidently predict that none of the WHDLoad install coders will do a slave for this 'game', thus this thread is now pretty redundant, as its simply not going to happen.

laser · 18 August 2007, 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

sorry laser but look at the 2 pictures don't tell me that there is no difference of colors and the megacd graphics are better

first one on the left megacd second one cd32.
If you told me that the megacd has best graphics, we could make a poll

OK
I have seen both pictures....
and now I agree with you that it haven't better gfx
even now I think that maybe the sega version runs at 32 colours...maybe the programmers reduced colours to gain speed
however the megacd version is faster...it haven't better gfx or more colours than the cd32 but it's fast and smooth

anyways I prefer the commodore 64 version

bye

viddi · 18 August 2007, 10:19

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

...and the work required to make it possible for it to 'play' under WHDLoad is effort that would be better spent elsewhere.

Well yes, you´re right. There are so many great games out there waiting for a slave...

*shouting* Any news on that Evil´s Doom slave?

laser · 18 August 2007, 10:51

also here is the spectrum 128k version

Ironclaw · 18 August 2007, 13:27

Read everywhere this game sucks.... Anyone wanna see a longplay? :P..... Will give it a go..... is this game hard?. I have read the manual and know about the map and all the buttons it uses....

DamienD · 18 August 2007, 13:46

There is also an FM Towns version

Ironclaw · 18 August 2007, 13:48

Heh, playing now and it's a nice game.... and I LOVE the cool pause screen... it's a pic of the CD with some text and has a cool sound beat to it while paused....

Have to play this one from beginning till end in one go as I can't use savestates.... and CD32 state save support is "work in progress".

Ironclaw · 18 August 2007, 14:05

What are these red areas on the route that I've passed?

turrican3 · 18 August 2007, 14:21

if i remember well you must past by every red point before to meet the boss

when you past a blue point it changed in red

turrican3 · 18 August 2007, 14:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by laser

OK
I have seen both pictures....
and now I agree with you that it haven't better gfx
even now I think that maybe the sega version runs at 32 colours...maybe the programmers reduced colours to gain speed
however the megacd version is faster...it haven't better gfx or more colours than the cd32 but it's fast and smooth

anyways I prefer the commodore 64 version

bye

with winuae the game is really fast and smooth but i prefer videopac version

Ironclaw · 18 August 2007, 14:39

Ok, this big and hard (like my dick)... so donno if I'm up to completing it... I have to get to all the blue dots on the map, then when they are all red I navigate to the middle dot and face the boss... righ?..... well.. it's a labyrinth sort of.... if I take a wrong turn, I might have to start over from a point I've already been through which will take like 5 mins to reach the point where I took the wrong turn so I this time can try ther other turn.. eh....

biiiig game... need maps and stuff if it's gonna be easier.

17 August 2007, 14:21	#22
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	the cdi version was the best. it used the fullmotion video card. [ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ] now for the playability i never played this version. Last edited by turrican3; 17 August 2007 at 14:45.

18 August 2007, 03:57	#27
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	sorry laser but look at the 2 pictures don't tell me that there is no difference of colors and the megacd graphics are better first one on the left megacd second one cd32. If you told me that the megacd has best graphics, we could make a poll Last edited by turrican3; 13 February 2008 at 02:29.

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17 August 2007, 14:18	#21
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	[ Show youtube player ]

17 August 2007, 14:27	#23
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	no, C64 version was the best:

17 August 2007, 14:35	#24
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	best playability certainly

18 August 2007, 09:57	#29
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	I like it and just played it two days ago! I have to admit though that it´s not THAT fascinating as it was back in 1994. Why not program a slave that accesses the Microcosm-CD? I can imagine many more games needing this kind of "drivers". E.g. Shadow of the Third moon (in various versions for 030,040,060), Joyride,...and all the other buggy games from 1996-2000.

18 August 2007, 10:01	#30
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,004	Microcosm simply isn't worth the effort to code a slave for. Everyone is agreed that its a poor imitation of a game, lots of people don't own it as an original, it was never 'cracked' because of its lack of playability, and the work required to make it possible for it to 'play' under WHDLoad is effort that would be better spent elsewhere. I can confidently predict that none of the WHDLoad install coders will do a slave for this 'game', thus this thread is now pretty redundant, as its simply not going to happen.

18 August 2007, 10:51	#33
laser Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Argentina Age: 51 Posts: 648	also here is the spectrum 128k version

18 August 2007, 13:27	#34
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	Read everywhere this game sucks.... Anyone wanna see a longplay? :P..... Will give it a go..... is this game hard?. I have read the manual and know about the map and all the buttons it uses....

18 August 2007, 13:46	#35
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	There is also an FM Towns version

18 August 2007, 13:48	#36
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	Heh, playing now and it's a nice game.... and I LOVE the cool pause screen... it's a pic of the CD with some text and has a cool sound beat to it while paused.... Have to play this one from beginning till end in one go as I can't use savestates.... and CD32 state save support is "work in progress".

18 August 2007, 14:21	#38
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	if i remember well you must past by every red point before to meet the boss when you past a blue point it changed in red

18 August 2007, 14:39	#40
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	Ok, this big and hard (like my dick)... so donno if I'm up to completing it... I have to get to all the blue dots on the map, then when they are all red I navigate to the middle dot and face the boss... righ?..... well.. it's a labyrinth sort of.... if I take a wrong turn, I might have to start over from a point I've already been through which will take like 5 mins to reach the point where I took the wrong turn so I this time can try ther other turn.. eh.... biiiig game... need maps and stuff if it's gonna be easier.

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