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https://www.altera.com/products/desi.../overview.html https://www.altera.com/en_US/pdfs/li...173-opencl.pdf No AmigaOS I am aware of provides standard OpenCL support although it would be possible to have a 3rd party add-on solution (worked so well for the Amiga over the years ). As Amiga CPUs become more ancient, relatively slower and less affordable, parallel processing on more modern gfx cards or in FPGAs gives more advantage. Most of the Amiga 3D software are older open source PC software ports but there is a lot which could be ported. Unfortunately, the current Amiga situation is not conducive to development or standardization . |
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I was not trying to upset any of the Apollo team by starting this thread.
Its an honest attempt to add a feature that WILL bring more to the table of an already outstanding technological marvel. Quote:
(Both the CycloneIV and V can have 4 ports) It would be up to the Amiga community to get a modernish graphics card to work. I would suggest that ATI/AMD (being the underdogs like the Amiga) be the cards to use as they support Open Source and there is quite a lot of documentation on thier website. Quote:
https://www.hpe.com/uk/en/product-ca...009010209.html https://www.scan.co.uk/products/24gb...dvi-i-dl-dual- With a Beast like that, you run virtual enviroments with heavy graphics/cuda processing on the server and stream direct to the desktop. You dont need a graphics card for each of your employees The modernish graphics card can be thought of as a Computer in itself, you tell it where in memory its program is and it will do its own thing without much interaction from the host computer at all. Quote:
Will there be an OpenGL type of driver? If so, we can expect quite alot of PC stuff to be translated over. Back to the Original Topic (Been working on the post over a few days) As I understand it, the Cyclone III already has the ability to talk PCI so a mediator link is a possibility already. Im not sure on the current Logic Element requirement for the Gold2 core but I have read somewhere its around 25K The most expensive Cyclone III listed with 24624 I could find on Mouser was £103 with a MOQ of 81 Im not sure where the team are up to with the 3D core and the extra real estate it will require in logic elements but if we double it to 50k for future work space and have a look up the range The Cyclone IV is able to use up to 4 PCI-E x1 lanes with root port capabitity BUT the only ones I could see on mouser only had a 200mhz core clock which I guess could be too slow and we start to about £100 with quite large MOQ`s CycloneV is quite an improvement over the IV in I/O and clockspeed. The GX models also have 4 PCI-E x1 lanes but a host of other protocols too including GBe(ethernet) and SATA 150/300 The prices vary quite a bit across the models £75 (MOQ 1!! ) up to £172 (MOQ 84!!) http://www.mouser.co.uk/Intel/Semico...yy6lwuZ1yx1iwa I realy would not know which model would be suitable for the Apollo 68080 and 3D core I also dont know what the price fluctuation/trends on these devices are, have they gone down over the last couple of years? If the price trend is downwards, the CycloneV could be affordable in a couple years How would the 68080 core perform in a V? Are they looking at them for the 1200 Version? They list as 800Mhz, If we get half as much performance again or doubleish That would be quite amazing! The whole SoC Idea is great, SAGA will bring something new and much needed to the Amiga namely hardware 3D Intel have thought the same as AMD and added 3D cores to thier CPU`s Not to knock the team at all but there will be a limit to what you can do. If one day they go ASIC and the Apollo core is in the 1 Ghz region, combining this with the ability to plug in a throw away graphics card could cause quite the stir in the Amiga world The sooner people can `Play` with the hardware, the sooner the software will be available. Sorry for the extra long post. |
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