Zeus68k – Accelerator/IDE/RAM for the A500/2000/CDTV and others - Page 29

Yulquen74 · 27 October 2013, 13:03

will the onboard RAM be zero wait state while the cpu is running at 50 MHz?

27 October 2013, 18:10

Hi mr.vince

probably a big ask and a stupid question, but can you get the essence of this image to display briefly during boot?

http://oldschoolgameblog.files.wordp...zeus68ktop.jpg

I guess the production board may look less spectacular, but this is where the dream began for most of us. If a circuit board could ever be described as being sexy it has to be this one! It's a shame it will be hidden away in the machine....

nikoluis · 28 October 2013, 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.vince

As stated earlier, our plan is to deliver excellence, we don't care about production speed or cost. There's lots of stuff to be done office wise, like preparing accounts, getting quotes, making sure this gets properly taxed (the project will be managed and produced in Germany)... so... we're at it, while real life goes on.

I personally and, i believe, 99% of us here don't want ZEUS to have the fate of Natami. So take your time Mr Vince. If the price is fine, the product will outsell. Most of us have invested a lot of money on our hobby and definitely want to spend a bit more for this all-in-one product for the best home system ever produced.

20 November 2013, 10:58

Hi

Just fired up my A500 after it resided 21 years in the attic. Started looking for ways to bring it in to the new millennium (ks switcher, hd et al) and found the aca500 and the Zeus. Both looks like great products but i like the internal mounting of the zeus a lot.

I have now read this entire thread (took me a while) and i have seen vince a couple of times saying you probably wont use crowdsourcing (like kickstarter) to finance the zeus. What is the rationale behind that? is it the 5-8% fees or is it a more philosophical issue? If it is the fees than maybe there is cheaper crowdsourcing platforms?

That said, really looking forward to this product, regardless of how you get it to the market!

Photon · 22 November 2013, 20:22

kodapa: Kipper2k is also taking pre-orders for his IDE+RAM board as a third option!

I was curious about this one also (actually I got here from a thread on a Swedish Amiga forum!) This thread is quite long, so I'm being lazy

and asking if someone knows release date or production start date and any changes in specs (Since the first post was last updated Aug 2012.) And is there a price somewhere?

Yes, I would have preferred if the ACA500 was internal too. Depending on whether there would be an easy way to make the CF cards accessible. It's definitely handy to have those outside

Edit: I found a pic and a little more info on page 26. So I'm not completely lazy

TotO · 25 November 2013, 13:29

I'm always waiting about Zeus news... But, may be I have better to pray?

About the ACA500, the external idea is just a geek choice to make his girlfriend happy.
There are some ways to make the CF accessible (from left or bottom trap) as they are not hot plug at all, they don't need to be external. The A500 no miss space to embed that inside... It's sad.

nikoluis · 26 November 2013, 11:55

A few years ago i installed the CFIDE68K, but i wanted to be able to switch CF cards without reopening the case. Since the memory expansion occupied the only place i could install a removable CF using the trapdoor , i decided to use a Dremell to open a slot under the floppy for permanent use. I will use this slot with Zeus. Please see the attached picture.

Mr B · 26 November 2013, 12:31

I'm not sure what your question is. "Will i be able to use the CF with Zeus?"
If that the case, then , yes, most likely. You might need a new cable for it but that should be all, i think.

Bamiga2002 · 11 December 2013, 07:19

Will the Mhz-switch be adjustable or just either 7Mhz or 50Mhz? Great project, as are the other A500 cards that have flown in!

lukassid · 11 December 2013, 08:32

You got ACA-500 and kipper Ram+IDE boards available to buy right now. Zeus and Elbox board are in the making. There were never more choices for A500, not to mention A600 when you have ACA, Vampire, Furia and kipper Ram boards too. Good times.

Lord Aga · 11 December 2013, 12:29

Yup, low and mid tier hardware has never been so affordable.
Upgrading Miggies is so sweet these days

mr.vince · 22 December 2013, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by kodapa

Hi

Just fired up my A500 after it resided 21 years in the attic. Started looking for ways to bring it in to the new millennium (ks switcher, hd et al) and found the aca500 and the Zeus. Both looks like great products but i like the internal mounting of the zeus a lot.

I have now read this entire thread (took me a while) and i have seen vince a couple of times saying you probably wont use crowdsourcing (like kickstarter) to finance the zeus. What is the rationale behind that? is it the 5-8% fees or is it a more philosophical issue? If it is the fees than maybe there is cheaper crowdsourcing platforms?

That said, really looking forward to this product, regardless of how you get it to the market!

We feel more comfortable announcing the device when we feel it's ready for production and then offer them BTO. We will do a first run of at least 50 to 100 boards. Board production and assembly will be about 1.5 to 2 months. I think that's worth the wait.

Not sure if we want to use Kickstarter for this, we do have a shop system and everything else in place.

As for other questions: This accelerator will come with the source for the core, whatever you feel should be changed or is missing can be changed. Toy with it.

Bamiga2002 · 22 December 2013, 23:35

Awesome!

Geraldine · 23 December 2013, 00:57

@ Mr Vince
I wouldn't bother with kickstarter. If you reach your funding target Kickstarter will take a chunk of your pledges. I think doing your own thing with your own shop setup is all you need.

Narf the Mouse · 25 December 2013, 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geraldine

@ Mr Vince
I wouldn't bother with kickstarter. If you reach your funding target Kickstarter will take a chunk of your pledges. I think doing your own thing with your own shop setup is all you need.

Divide your desired amount of money by 0.9 if you're worried about losing money. Kickstarter will probably get you a lot more attention than a website only a subset of Amiga fans will visit.

mr.vince · 26 December 2013, 19:29

Not worrying about the fees, we also pay fees for e.g. PayPal. However, using our webshop would mean having everything where it needs to be, with the full monty of invoices, postage, address printing etc. already set up.

We just checked the pre-requisites. We can start at 50 units, which will be the minimum. 100-200 would be our target for the first run.

More details to follow.

nikoluis · 27 December 2013, 20:41

Mr. Santa Vince

, can't wait!

amigoun · 03 January 2014, 01:04

Will it fit also with chipmem expansion(s) installed in Amiga 2000?

Chain · 03 January 2014, 08:33

do A2000 si das milion pet jinych karet, nam jde o neco interniho do petikoule

Mohican · 03 January 2014, 19:35

souhlasím s tím

... I agree (and google rulz)

20 November 2013, 10:58	#564
kodapa Posts: n/a	crowdfunding Hi Just fired up my A500 after it resided 21 years in the attic. Started looking for ways to bring it in to the new millennium (ks switcher, hd et al) and found the aca500 and the Zeus. Both looks like great products but i like the internal mounting of the zeus a lot. I have now read this entire thread (took me a while) and i have seen vince a couple of times saying you probably wont use crowdsourcing (like kickstarter) to finance the zeus. What is the rationale behind that? is it the 5-8% fees or is it a more philosophical issue? If it is the fees than maybe there is cheaper crowdsourcing platforms? That said, really looking forward to this product, regardless of how you get it to the market! Last edited by kodapa; 20 November 2013 at 11:18.

22 November 2013, 20:22	#565
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	kodapa: Kipper2k is also taking pre-orders for his IDE+RAM board as a third option! I was curious about this one also (actually I got here from a thread on a Swedish Amiga forum!) This thread is quite long, so I'm being lazy and asking if someone knows release date or production start date and any changes in specs (Since the first post was last updated Aug 2012.) And is there a price somewhere? Yes, I would have preferred if the ACA500 was internal too. Depending on whether there would be an easy way to make the CF cards accessible. It's definitely handy to have those outside Edit: I found a pic and a little more info on page 26. So I'm not completely lazy Last edited by Photon; 22 November 2013 at 20:34.

25 November 2013, 13:29	#566
TotO Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: France Posts: 57	I'm always waiting about Zeus news... But, may be I have better to pray? About the ACA500, the external idea is just a geek choice to make his girlfriend happy. There are some ways to make the CF accessible (from left or bottom trap) as they are not hot plug at all, they don't need to be external. The A500 no miss space to embed that inside... It's sad. Last edited by TotO; 25 November 2013 at 13:34.

26 November 2013, 11:55	#567
nikoluis Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Greece Age: 49 Posts: 14	A few years ago i installed the CFIDE68K, but i wanted to be able to switch CF cards without reopening the case. Since the memory expansion occupied the only place i could install a removable CF using the trapdoor , i decided to use a Dremell to open a slot under the floppy for permanent use. I will use this slot with Zeus. Please see the attached picture. Attached Thumbnails

27 December 2013, 20:41	#577
nikoluis Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Greece Age: 49 Posts: 14	Mr. Santa Vince, can't wait!

27 October 2013, 13:03	#561
Yulquen74 Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Kleppe / Norway Posts: 253	will the onboard RAM be zero wait state while the cpu is running at 50 MHz?

27 October 2013, 18:10	#562
deladrevoc Posts: n/a	Hi mr.vince probably a big ask and a stupid question, but can you get the essence of this image to display briefly during boot? http://oldschoolgameblog.files.wordp...zeus68ktop.jpg I guess the production board may look less spectacular, but this is where the dream began for most of us. If a circuit board could ever be described as being sexy it has to be this one! It's a shame it will be hidden away in the machine....

26 November 2013, 12:31	#568
Mr B Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 749	I'm not sure what your question is. "Will i be able to use the CF with Zeus?" If that the case, then , yes, most likely. You might need a new cable for it but that should be all, i think.

11 December 2013, 07:19	#569
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Will the Mhz-switch be adjustable or just either 7Mhz or 50Mhz? Great project, as are the other A500 cards that have flown in!

11 December 2013, 08:32	#570
lukassid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Surrey Posts: 390	You got ACA-500 and kipper Ram+IDE boards available to buy right now. Zeus and Elbox board are in the making. There were never more choices for A500, not to mention A600 when you have ACA, Vampire, Furia and kipper Ram boards too. Good times.

11 December 2013, 12:29	#571
Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	Yup, low and mid tier hardware has never been so affordable. Upgrading Miggies is so sweet these days

22 December 2013, 23:35	#573
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Awesome!

23 December 2013, 00:57	#574
Geraldine Amigas4Ever! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Sunny Scotland. Anarchy System Tech Level 0 No Police Presence. Enter At Own Risk! Posts: 107	@ Mr Vince I wouldn't bother with kickstarter. If you reach your funding target Kickstarter will take a chunk of your pledges. I think doing your own thing with your own shop setup is all you need.

26 December 2013, 19:29	#576
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Not worrying about the fees, we also pay fees for e.g. PayPal. However, using our webshop would mean having everything where it needs to be, with the full monty of invoices, postage, address printing etc. already set up. We just checked the pre-requisites. We can start at 50 units, which will be the minimum. 100-200 would be our target for the first run. More details to follow.

03 January 2014, 01:04	#578
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	Will it fit also with chipmem expansion(s) installed in Amiga 2000?

03 January 2014, 08:33	#579
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	do A2000 si das milion pet jinych karet, nam jde o neco interniho do petikoule

03 January 2014, 19:35	#580
Mohican Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Budapest / Hungary Age: 50 Posts: 67	souhlasím s tím ... I agree (and google rulz)

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