Copying Workbench install, Error Message!

Djay · 16 March 2011, 01:22

Just out of interest, rather than solving a problem...

I installed Workbench 3.1 within WinUAE (Directory type), in windows explorer i copied the folder to a USB memory stick (along with WinUAE, roms and configs)... every was ok until the Worbench folder was copying across, it throws up a tick box stating that some information associated to the file can not be copied (there was over 100 instances)

why?

feel free to shout N00B!

Hewitson · 16 March 2011, 06:45

This occurs because the filesystem isn't capable of preserving the protection bits Amiga files have (executable, script, deletable, etc).

TCD · 16 March 2011, 07:25

If you want to use WinUAE from the USB stick, make it a HDF instead. If you just use it to transfer the files, zip the Workbench folder.

Toni Wilen · 16 March 2011, 08:24

No need for HDFs, protection flags and comments are kept, even on filesystem harddrives (since the beginning, where this myth comes from?)

Copy them inside emulation, not by using Windows tools if you want to keep protection flags and comments.

EDIT: Explorer error comes because WinUAE uses NTFS file streams to keep the extra data which is not supported by FAT filesystems (WinUAE uses ugly __uaefsdb files on FAT volumes)

Djay · 16 March 2011, 10:55

Thanks for the info guys... If I use windows to copy and I lose protection flags and comments, would that corrupt workbench on the target system?

Basically I use a netbook, pc at home and pc at work.... I thought having a removable Amiga I can take anywhere and of course not have to update files on 3 systems (ie game saves)... Workbench is essentials for things like whdload

fitzsteve · 16 March 2011, 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djay

Thanks for the info guys... If I use windows to copy and I lose protection flags and comments, would that corrupt workbench on the target system?

Basically I use a netbook, pc at home and pc at work.... I thought having a removable Amiga I can take anywhere and of course not have to update files on 3 systems (ie game saves)... Workbench is essentials for things like whdload

Thats right you need to do all the work inside WinUAE, your emulated Amiga enviroment. If you copy the files in Windows it causes problems.

I've done the same for a friend, put lots of workbench setups, games, etc on a 16gb USB stick, works a treat on any PC

Toni Wilen · 16 March 2011, 11:02

Use NTFS formatted media to transfer data. Then it is safe to move the files around using explorer without losing protection flags, comments or filename data if it contains illegal characters (which are stored in hidden alternate file streams)

Most WB files don't need special protection flag setup or comments but for example some whdload games have characters in file names that are illegal on Windows. (These file names are transformed to __uae<something> on Windows-side, emulated Amiga sees the original name)

16 March 2011, 01:22	#1
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	Copying Workbench install, Error Message! Just out of interest, rather than solving a problem... I installed Workbench 3.1 within WinUAE (Directory type), in windows explorer i copied the folder to a USB memory stick (along with WinUAE, roms and configs)... every was ok until the Worbench folder was copying across, it throws up a tick box stating that some information associated to the file can not be copied (there was over 100 instances) why? feel free to shout N00B!

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16 March 2011, 06:45	#2
Hewitson Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 41 Posts: 3,773	This occurs because the filesystem isn't capable of preserving the protection bits Amiga files have (executable, script, deletable, etc).

16 March 2011, 07:25	#3
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,741	If you want to use WinUAE from the USB stick, make it a HDF instead. If you just use it to transfer the files, zip the Workbench folder.

16 March 2011, 08:24	#4
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,534	No need for HDFs, protection flags and comments are kept, even on filesystem harddrives (since the beginning, where this myth comes from?) Copy them inside emulation, not by using Windows tools if you want to keep protection flags and comments. EDIT: Explorer error comes because WinUAE uses NTFS file streams to keep the extra data which is not supported by FAT filesystems (WinUAE uses ugly __uaefsdb files on FAT volumes)

16 March 2011, 10:55	#5
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	Thanks for the info guys... If I use windows to copy and I lose protection flags and comments, would that corrupt workbench on the target system? Basically I use a netbook, pc at home and pc at work.... I thought having a removable Amiga I can take anywhere and of course not have to update files on 3 systems (ie game saves)... Workbench is essentials for things like whdload

16 March 2011, 11:02	#7
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,534	Use NTFS formatted media to transfer data. Then it is safe to move the files around using explorer without losing protection flags, comments or filename data if it contains illegal characters (which are stored in hidden alternate file streams) Most WB files don't need special protection flag setup or comments but for example some whdload games have characters in file names that are illegal on Windows. (These file names are transformed to __uae<something> on Windows-side, emulated Amiga sees the original name)

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