Problem with disk blocks already in use - Page 2

Drake1009 · 09 August 2002, 09:10

That would be a nice harddisk to have.

Amiga1992 · 09 August 2002, 09:59

THE harddisk

*looks on ebay*

Bloodwych · 09 August 2002, 10:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Akira
Ah, I have to reformat then.. Well, if it is worth it...

HOLD ON, the WHOLE HD? I cant do that! I just can format one partition, because otherwise I cant make a backup!

You can install SFS on one partition at a time, then copy your stuff over. No problems there.

Quote:

Originally posted by Akira
But on the A1200 it always ends on a checksum error Must be that awful Seagate drive. I need a 2.5" 4GB Western digital!

Seagate HD's are some of the best in the business! In my experience they are the most reliable hard drives I've ever used! Still a 2.5" 4GB WD would be nice.

Your problems will be nothing to do with the Seagate HD but the person who set it up. The mask, maxtrans etc will probably be set wrong for the drive and your suffering read/write probs due to this.

I'll grab those links and try and help both of you out.

Amiga1992 · 09 August 2002, 10:22

I don't know if there is a misconfiguration, the same happens on my A600's WD but that one NEVER ended in a checksum error! I just have a supreme LOVE for WD drives. That's why I put one in my PC after busting up two other shitty ones.

No WD 2.5" 4GB drives fond on eBay :/ And the WD site has no mention about their 2.5" drives!

Oh Drake. It's got to be a patch. My Amiga locks up the most when I have a badass WB loaded. When I boot without startup sequence, it's as solid as rock!

Bloodwych · 09 August 2002, 11:45

Don't be so sure Akira! I may be wrong of course, but your Mask or Maxtransfer could be set wrong. Mask for instance, can depend on the type of memory accellerator you have! Read on......

Ok guys, prepare for some heavy reading! Ignore anything about creating a mount list - this is only required if you want to setup SFS on devices other than your HD. It's auto-mounted on HardDrives from the RDB (Rigid Disk Block).

Main SFS Page. No longer updated - This has great info about SFS and advice on Maxtransfer and Mask settings for your HD. You'll also need to download the complete package and tools from this site.

In simple terms, the Maxtransfer should be no bigger than your HD cache which is probably 128K. Buffers should be set at least to 100 for each partition with SFS for decent performance. Mask tells the HD controller what memory to use - read the site above for more details or have a read around the net. On my machine, I can use the least restrictive 0x7FFFFFFF no problem with the default A1200 IDE controller, a Seagate 1.28GB HD and 2MB chip 8MB fast on an expansion card.

New updated SFS page - Here you can get the latest version of SFS. Only the filesystem is provided and needs dropping into the L directory replacing any older version.

SFS guide - A very detailed text guide. I think it's also included in the package downloaded from the first link. Has more info on those detailed settings in Hdtoolbox – Mask, MaxTransfer, buffers etc.

09 August 2002, 11:45

Hi all,
Thanks for ur support.

Disksalv solved the problem with a complet scan / repair.
Right now, my partition is validated and boot is ok.
Thanks again.

Bloodwych · 09 August 2002, 12:01

Great news Giana! Glad we could help.

Just a few notes about SFS:

You can't use Reorg as it won't support SFS. No defrag utility will, but since SFS writes files very efficiently and effectively defrags itself (see readme) there is no need to worry about it. It will still out perform a reorganised FFS easily.

Certain HD caching utilities should be avoided - again details are in the readme. Make sure you read it.

I suggesting copying your WB install disk and placing SFS in the L directory. Then add all the SFS utils to the disk as well, deleting what you don't need in order to make room. Using HDtoolbox, you can then mount the SFS filesystem onto the Rigid Disk Block using this disk and run any diagnostic or recover utils should they be required.

Drake1009 · 09 August 2002, 13:08

Well I'm glad you posted a link to the guide, because I couldn't find any instructions on the first page or the 2nd.

Amiga1992 · 10 August 2002, 01:45

Thanks for the links Blood!!!

Defrag? What's that?

I have NEVER defragged my WD A600 HD in 10 years

It's not like the Amiga filesystem it's a mess like FAT32!

Twistin'Ghost · 10 August 2002, 02:15

Agreed. Defragging is a great idea, but it's rarely neccessary of the Amiga.

RetroMan · 10 August 2002, 16:50

I use SFS on my A1200 HD and never had ANY checksum or read/write errors in two years now

Even if I treat it bad, like turn off power while copying between partitions and so on

Bloodwych · 13 August 2002, 21:04

Retroman has spoken! So install it now and be free of your HD demons.......................

Amiga1992 · 14 August 2002, 05:04

You convinced me. This weekend, if I get the time, I'll make the migration to SFS

Drake1009 · 14 August 2002, 14:13

Well I'm convinced as well, but it probably won't be the weekend. Something about not getting around to it and not being that good at fiddling so I'm afraid to ruin something.

Amiga1992 · 14 August 2002, 19:20

Two happy customers

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09 August 2002, 09:10	#21
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	That would be a nice harddisk to have.

09 August 2002, 09:59	#22
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	THE harddisk looks on ebay

09 August 2002, 10:22	#24
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I don't know if there is a misconfiguration, the same happens on my A600's WD but that one NEVER ended in a checksum error! I just have a supreme LOVE for WD drives. That's why I put one in my PC after busting up two other shitty ones. No WD 2.5" 4GB drives fond on eBay :/ And the WD site has no mention about their 2.5" drives! Oh Drake. It's got to be a patch. My Amiga locks up the most when I have a badass WB loaded. When I boot without startup sequence, it's as solid as rock!

09 August 2002, 11:45	#25
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Don't be so sure Akira! I may be wrong of course, but your Mask or Maxtransfer could be set wrong. Mask for instance, can depend on the type of memory accellerator you have! Read on...... Ok guys, prepare for some heavy reading! Ignore anything about creating a mount list - this is only required if you want to setup SFS on devices other than your HD. It's auto-mounted on HardDrives from the RDB (Rigid Disk Block). Main SFS Page. No longer updated - This has great info about SFS and advice on Maxtransfer and Mask settings for your HD. You'll also need to download the complete package and tools from this site. In simple terms, the Maxtransfer should be no bigger than your HD cache which is probably 128K. Buffers should be set at least to 100 for each partition with SFS for decent performance. Mask tells the HD controller what memory to use - read the site above for more details or have a read around the net. On my machine, I can use the least restrictive 0x7FFFFFFF no problem with the default A1200 IDE controller, a Seagate 1.28GB HD and 2MB chip 8MB fast on an expansion card. New updated SFS page - Here you can get the latest version of SFS. Only the filesystem is provided and needs dropping into the L directory replacing any older version. SFS guide - A very detailed text guide. I think it's also included in the package downloaded from the first link. Has more info on those detailed settings in Hdtoolbox – Mask, MaxTransfer, buffers etc.

09 August 2002, 11:45	#26
Giana Posts: n/a	Hi all, Thanks for ur support. Disksalv solved the problem with a complet scan / repair. Right now, my partition is validated and boot is ok. Thanks again.

09 August 2002, 12:01	#27
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Great news Giana! Glad we could help. Just a few notes about SFS: You can't use Reorg as it won't support SFS. No defrag utility will, but since SFS writes files very efficiently and effectively defrags itself (see readme) there is no need to worry about it. It will still out perform a reorganised FFS easily. Certain HD caching utilities should be avoided - again details are in the readme. Make sure you read it. I suggesting copying your WB install disk and placing SFS in the L directory. Then add all the SFS utils to the disk as well, deleting what you don't need in order to make room. Using HDtoolbox, you can then mount the SFS filesystem onto the Rigid Disk Block using this disk and run any diagnostic or recover utils should they be required.

09 August 2002, 13:08	#28
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Well I'm glad you posted a link to the guide, because I couldn't find any instructions on the first page or the 2nd.

10 August 2002, 01:45	#29
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Thanks for the links Blood!!! Defrag? What's that? I have NEVER defragged my WD A600 HD in 10 years It's not like the Amiga filesystem it's a mess like FAT32!

10 August 2002, 02:15	#30
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Agreed. Defragging is a great idea, but it's rarely neccessary of the Amiga.

10 August 2002, 16:50	#31
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	I use SFS on my A1200 HD and never had ANY checksum or read/write errors in two years now Even if I treat it bad, like turn off power while copying between partitions and so on

13 August 2002, 21:04	#32
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Retroman has spoken! So install it now and be free of your HD demons.......................

14 August 2002, 05:04	#33
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	You convinced me. This weekend, if I get the time, I'll make the migration to SFS

14 August 2002, 14:13	#34
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Well I'm convinced as well, but it probably won't be the weekend. Something about not getting around to it and not being that good at fiddling so I'm afraid to ruin something.

14 August 2002, 19:20	#35
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Two happy customers

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