Simple way to check that the game is running on a CD32?

earok · 14 May 2017, 13:54

There's certain things that I'd like to enable by default if the game detects it is running on a CD32, such as CD music, NVRAM saving and CD32 Pad support,

Does anyone know if there's any simple way to check that we're running from a CD32? Perhaps a peek somewhere that checks that the Akiko chip is present..?

Toni Wilen · 14 May 2017, 15:22

If game uses cd.device to play cd audio (Does not use direct hardware access to CD hardware), it probably is not good idea to do any hardware checks because it would be incompatible with any A1200/A4000 CD32 emulator.

Attempting to open cd.device is probably easiest way. Pad can be easily checked if lowlevel.library opens and reports inserted CD32 pad. nonvolatile.library for NVRAM.

idrougge · 14 May 2017, 15:27

Doesn't the CD32 have a certain OS version (exec.library version?) you could check for?

earok · 15 May 2017, 01:17

Thanks guys, I'll keep those in mind

Dwelling on it further, I could handle the three things separately perhaps -

- Nonvolatile can still be used on NVRAM-less systems (saves to ENV or ENVARC I believe)
- CD.device could still be used for CD music on A1200s I presume
- CD32 pads may be used by A1200 owners, and some CD32 owners may prefer one or two button joysticks

Embarrassingly enough I have no experience with opening libraries in Blitz.. I'll see what I can work out.

musashi5150 · 15 May 2017, 08:43

On graphics.library v40+, check the ChunkyToPlanarPtr. If it's NULL, there's no Akiko hardware = no CD32.

Cylon · 15 May 2017, 20:18

One could also check for resources/ports only existing on CD32 (or CDTV for that matter), like bookit, cdplayer or similar.

Leffmann · 15 May 2017, 21:44

Use FindResident() to check for the presence of freeanim.library, it's exclusive to CD32.

earok · 15 May 2017, 22:33

thanks guys

much appreciated

earok · 14 September 2017, 13:17

Found the simplest check: The "InitCD32" command in Acid's cd32lib

Seems to be able to tell at a ROM level, eg in my WinUAE setup, just changing the ROM (and the ROM alone) from CD32 to A1200 changed the result from true to false.

Edit: Watching the behavior in Snoopdos, it appears the command just opens "CD.Device" (part of the CD32 rom?)

Leffmann · 14 September 2017, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by earok

Edit: Watching the behavior in Snoopdos, it appears the command just opens "CD.Device" (part of the CD32 rom?)

It's part of the CD32 extended ROM, but it's also available on Aminet for installation in Workbench, though I don't think it's very commonly used.

earok · 16 September 2017, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leffmann

It's part of the CD32 extended ROM, but it's also available on Aminet for installation in Workbench, though I don't think it's very commonly used.

thanks.

I did a bit of digging and it seems that perhaps Worms uses the function to work out if there's a CD32 pad plugged in. Except - some A1200 users were using CD.Device to play the game, and ended up getting stuck without having a pad installed, so there was a fan patch to fix the problem.

Amiga1992 · 18 September 2017, 15:19

So I guess if you replace the kickstart ROMs for standard ones, there's no way to tell a CD32 from an A1200?
Is there any way to check for the presence of the bootup animation? Like, a certain byte at a certain memory location.

14 May 2017, 13:54	#1
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	Simple way to check that the game is running on a CD32? There's certain things that I'd like to enable by default if the game detects it is running on a CD32, such as CD music, NVRAM saving and CD32 Pad support, Does anyone know if there's any simple way to check that we're running from a CD32? Perhaps a peek somewhere that checks that the Akiko chip is present..?

15 May 2017, 08:43	#5
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	On graphics.library v40+, check the ChunkyToPlanarPtr. If it's NULL, there's no Akiko hardware = no CD32. Last edited by musashi5150; 15 May 2017 at 11:06.

14 September 2017, 13:17	#9
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	Found the simplest check: The "InitCD32" command in Acid's cd32lib Seems to be able to tell at a ROM level, eg in my WinUAE setup, just changing the ROM (and the ROM alone) from CD32 to A1200 changed the result from true to false. Edit: Watching the behavior in Snoopdos, it appears the command just opens "CD.Device" (part of the CD32 rom?) Last edited by earok; 14 September 2017 at 13:23.

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14 May 2017, 15:22	#2
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	If game uses cd.device to play cd audio (Does not use direct hardware access to CD hardware), it probably is not good idea to do any hardware checks because it would be incompatible with any A1200/A4000 CD32 emulator. Attempting to open cd.device is probably easiest way. Pad can be easily checked if lowlevel.library opens and reports inserted CD32 pad. nonvolatile.library for NVRAM.

14 May 2017, 15:27	#3
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,332	Doesn't the CD32 have a certain OS version (exec.library version?) you could check for?

15 May 2017, 01:17	#4
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	Thanks guys, I'll keep those in mind Dwelling on it further, I could handle the three things separately perhaps - - Nonvolatile can still be used on NVRAM-less systems (saves to ENV or ENVARC I believe) - CD.device could still be used for CD music on A1200s I presume - CD32 pads may be used by A1200 owners, and some CD32 owners may prefer one or two button joysticks Embarrassingly enough I have no experience with opening libraries in Blitz.. I'll see what I can work out.

15 May 2017, 20:18	#6
Cylon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Europe Posts: 470	One could also check for resources/ports only existing on CD32 (or CDTV for that matter), like bookit, cdplayer or similar.

15 May 2017, 21:44	#7
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	Use FindResident() to check for the presence of freeanim.library, it's exclusive to CD32.

15 May 2017, 22:33	#8
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	thanks guys much appreciated

18 September 2017, 15:19	#12
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	So I guess if you replace the kickstart ROMs for standard ones, there's no way to tell a CD32 from an A1200? Is there any way to check for the presence of the bootup animation? Like, a certain byte at a certain memory location.

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