Crash with X-Surf 100 Z2 and Z3 (OS 4.x) - Page 2

DamienD · 19 January 2018, 22:28

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Originally Posted by AC/DC HACKER!

He reminds me of myself. I don't like [Amiga] Challenges unsolved. Sometimes, it's not a good "obsession" and causes personal problems, but not that common. I've learned to...relax it a bit through practice, but I can definitely understand where he comes from.

I'm with you brother and probably of the same gene.

...though Amiga? Anything really

*** sorry; I'll stop making drunken posts and interrupting this thread now; step away from the computer ***

AC/DC HACKER! · 20 January 2018, 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

I'm with you brother and probably of the same gene.

...though Amiga? Anything really

*** sorry; I'll stop making drunken posts and interrupting this thread now; step away from the computer ***

Hahaha! Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah...not entirely limited to Amiga. Shhhh!

Depends what you'rrrrrrree drrrtthhrinking an....an....an...how mooo--uch. Actually I had run X-Surf 100 Z2 and Z3 together, matter of fact: I haven't done it before, but for fun.. I just enabled the Commodore Ethernet, X-Surf 100 Z2 & Z3..all 3 together. In Hardware info I see the Commodore one is first..which is why it's drivers are loaded and used before the X-Surfs. Not a black screen at all. As you posted. Were you seeing Doubles?? Wink, Wink, Nudge, Nudge, Know what I mean?

Saghalie · 20 January 2018, 01:22

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Originally Posted by AC/DC HACKER!

Depends what you'rrrrrrree drrrtthhrinking an....an....an...how mooo--uch.

Jamison... as much as possible with bad kidneys...

AC/DC HACKER! · 20 January 2018, 02:09

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Originally Posted by Saghalie

Jamison... as much as possible with bad kidneys...

There's an Eastern way of repairing them but you have to do physical stuff that will hurt that Western Doctors don't understand. If you're interested..private message me. Don't if you're NOT really willing to DO what's required...and for the rest of your life. Beats all Western stuff, and I know many who've done it. It...will...hurt as you do the stuff...but it will restore them..slowly/gradually..depends a lot on your Inner Mindset Awareness, too.

Toni Wilen · 29 January 2018, 16:55

http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.7z has rewritten interrupt handling in PPC mode which should fix this problem. Very minimal testing so far but if you want to try it

spudje · 29 January 2018, 17:59

Is the X-Surf 100 even supported by AOS4.1? I thought not. Or doesn't that matter in WinUAE?

AC/DC HACKER! · 31 January 2018, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.7z has rewritten interrupt handling in PPC mode which should fix this problem. Very minimal testing so far but if you want to try it

I'll check it.

Update: It's crashing as before, at least from a Normal User level of noticing. There aren't any dumps being made by WinUAE, so I'll create 2 like I did last time. But I have to step way from the keys for a bit for now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudje

Is the X-Surf 100 even supported by AOS4.1? I thought not. Or doesn't that matter in WinUAE?

Sure, works with my real A4000. Use the device driver for 68K (68030).

Toni Wilen · 01 February 2018, 09:25

Don't attach any dumps until next official beta (in next few days I think). "Unofficial" dumps are not useful.

AC/DC HACKER! · 01 February 2018, 19:10

I meant I could create dumps from the above exe. But, okay, I'll hold on doing so until the next beta. You wanted to know about it from this one, gotcha, and have more you're going to check along with other changes. Aye, Captain!

Toni Wilen · 03 February 2018, 20:14

Now it is time to download 3.6.1b1 and create the dump file

AC/DC HACKER! · 06 February 2018, 19:02

Hehehe! Direct hint.. There were a few things happening in private life.

As per request...

URL not needed anymore.

Toni Wilen · 06 February 2018, 19:42

Unfortunately these crashes make no sense at all. It is just in critical section lock function without no exception reported.

Which dialog did Windows show?

EDIT: Redownload http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.7z and try again.

AC/DC HACKER! · 07 February 2018, 17:23

I keep all UAE files I've downloaded. But I'll confirm which it is...and re-run tests.

AC/DC HACKER! · 07 February 2018, 18:11

Ahhh, I didn't DL the newest Public Beta 2 yet. Dumps and logs..

Toni Wilen · 07 February 2018, 19:44

Same unexplained thing again..

- does same happen if you disable uae boot rom? (set it to disabled in rom panel)
- also switch off MMU emulation, more compatible.

AC/DC HACKER! · 07 February 2018, 20:21

Hmm... Switching off Boot ROM (I know where it's at, and I also understand you're used to informing almost everything. Wink!). Also switching off MMU and More Compatible...which I hadn't considered yet.

Loaded this exe again. Went to QuickStart and chose A4000 CSPPC. Disabled JIT and left everything else CPU related alone. In ROM, disabled ROM. RAM; added 256 Z3 Fast. Added my 2 usual Hard Drives..to CSPPC SCSI... (1) and (2).
Network: Enabled A2065 since I've been noticing crashes with it or X-Surf 100 Z3 enabled. Using A2065 for now.
Since RAM's ROM is disabled, using Picasso 4 as UAEGFX won't work then.
Changed Display Res to Super Hires for clearer image. Everything else is as I've typed. Now clicking Start.
Seeing AmigaOS 4.x logo..and now Desktop and sound. X-Surf 100 reported as not found, typical since it's not enabled. All graphics are looking as should.
Running Odyssey browser.. Looks good, and it showing the Aminet search of Payback as it was the last page visited. Now attempting download.
MS VC++ Runtime Library has terminated in an unusual way. A moment for so and then crash prompt for WinUAE. Close problem quits it but the Icon is the tray as usual remains. Hover over that and it's gone now. Windows 7 64-bit.

Now running it again, but only change I'll make is with enabling X-Surf 100 Z3. I am NOT loading any configs. To make sure that's clear to you. Smiling. Same thing.
Now I'm going to do it again, adding A2065, and adding hard files with uaehf.device instead of CSPPC.. uaehf.device (1) and uaehf.device (2) added.

Now I'm getting the Kickstart insert Disk screen. Click Restart from F12.. Changing both uaehf.devices to CSPPC... Clicking Start.. Colors flashing, AmigaOS 4.x logo, and now Workbench. Ran Odyssey and MS program terminated...

I'm going to go ahead and make a new AmigaOS 4.x install, and check with Odyssey along the way as I update OS 4.x and see if _something_ shows itself to me.

Toni Wilen · 07 February 2018, 20:28

Picasso IV (and any other hardware emulated cards) will work fine without boot ROM. uaegfx does not.

EDIT: and obviously uae boot rom is not the real problem..

AC/DC HACKER! · 07 February 2018, 20:31

I did some checking before that testing above, and I had made a Screen with Screens Prefs for Odyssey to display on, so I decided to delete that (or rename) and then it loads on the WB screen. Of course. When I'd choose to download, the Download manager would show but the download would not start. So I used MUI just now, thinking maybe there's a connection and it's NOT WinUAE..??? But using MUI to create the screen the same crash would happen, or at least perhaps not "same" but that MS terminate happens. Hmm.. I haven't done so in a while, I'll use another PPC browser and see if that MS terminate still happens.

AC/DC HACKER! · 07 February 2018, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Picasso IV (and any other hardware emulated cards) will work fine without boot ROM. uaegfx does not.

EDIT: and obviously uae boot rom is not the real problem..

Agreed about both.

AC/DC HACKER! · 07 February 2018, 20:34

I doubt it, but I'll ask anyway.. Shall I record a video for you to see all the steps and stuff? The links I had provided before will display video through your browser.

06 February 2018, 19:02	#31
AC/DC HACKER! Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth Posts: 884	Hehehe! Direct hint.. There were a few things happening in private life. As per request... URL not needed anymore. Last edited by AC/DC HACKER!; 07 February 2018 at 17:22. Reason: Removed link.

06 February 2018, 19:42	#32
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Unfortunately these crashes make no sense at all. It is just in critical section lock function without no exception reported. Which dialog did Windows show? EDIT: Redownload http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.7z and try again. Last edited by Toni Wilen; 06 February 2018 at 20:35.

07 February 2018, 18:11	#34
AC/DC HACKER! Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth Posts: 884	Ahhh, I didn't DL the newest Public Beta 2 yet. Dumps and logs.. Last edited by AC/DC HACKER!; 07 February 2018 at 20:34. Reason: Removed links.

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29 January 2018, 16:55	#25
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.7z has rewritten interrupt handling in PPC mode which should fix this problem. Very minimal testing so far but if you want to try it

29 January 2018, 17:59	#26
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	Is the X-Surf 100 even supported by AOS4.1? I thought not. Or doesn't that matter in WinUAE?

01 February 2018, 09:25	#28
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Don't attach any dumps until next official beta (in next few days I think). "Unofficial" dumps are not useful.

01 February 2018, 19:10	#29
AC/DC HACKER! Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth Posts: 884	I meant I could create dumps from the above exe. But, okay, I'll hold on doing so until the next beta. You wanted to know about it from this one, gotcha, and have more you're going to check along with other changes. Aye, Captain!

03 February 2018, 20:14	#30
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Now it is time to download 3.6.1b1 and create the dump file

07 February 2018, 17:23	#33
AC/DC HACKER! Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth Posts: 884	I keep all UAE files I've downloaded. But I'll confirm which it is...and re-run tests.

07 February 2018, 19:44	#35
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Same unexplained thing again.. - does same happen if you disable uae boot rom? (set it to disabled in rom panel) - also switch off MMU emulation, more compatible.

07 February 2018, 20:21	#36
AC/DC HACKER! Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth Posts: 884	Hmm... Switching off Boot ROM (I know where it's at, and I also understand you're used to informing almost everything. Wink!). Also switching off MMU and More Compatible...which I hadn't considered yet. Loaded this exe again. Went to QuickStart and chose A4000 CSPPC. Disabled JIT and left everything else CPU related alone. In ROM, disabled ROM. RAM; added 256 Z3 Fast. Added my 2 usual Hard Drives..to CSPPC SCSI... (1) and (2). Network: Enabled A2065 since I've been noticing crashes with it or X-Surf 100 Z3 enabled. Using A2065 for now. Since RAM's ROM is disabled, using Picasso 4 as UAEGFX won't work then. Changed Display Res to Super Hires for clearer image. Everything else is as I've typed. Now clicking Start. Seeing AmigaOS 4.x logo..and now Desktop and sound. X-Surf 100 reported as not found, typical since it's not enabled. All graphics are looking as should. Running Odyssey browser.. Looks good, and it showing the Aminet search of Payback as it was the last page visited. Now attempting download. MS VC++ Runtime Library has terminated in an unusual way. A moment for so and then crash prompt for WinUAE. Close problem quits it but the Icon is the tray as usual remains. Hover over that and it's gone now. Windows 7 64-bit. Now running it again, but only change I'll make is with enabling X-Surf 100 Z3. I am NOT loading any configs. To make sure that's clear to you. Smiling. Same thing. Now I'm going to do it again, adding A2065, and adding hard files with uaehf.device instead of CSPPC.. uaehf.device (1) and uaehf.device (2) added. Now I'm getting the Kickstart insert Disk screen. Click Restart from F12.. Changing both uaehf.devices to CSPPC... Clicking Start.. Colors flashing, AmigaOS 4.x logo, and now Workbench. Ran Odyssey and MS program terminated... I'm going to go ahead and make a new AmigaOS 4.x install, and check with Odyssey along the way as I update OS 4.x and see if _something_ shows itself to me.

07 February 2018, 20:28	#37
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Picasso IV (and any other hardware emulated cards) will work fine without boot ROM. uaegfx does not. EDIT: and obviously uae boot rom is not the real problem..

07 February 2018, 20:31	#38
AC/DC HACKER! Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth Posts: 884	I did some checking before that testing above, and I had made a Screen with Screens Prefs for Odyssey to display on, so I decided to delete that (or rename) and then it loads on the WB screen. Of course. When I'd choose to download, the Download manager would show but the download would not start. So I used MUI just now, thinking maybe there's a connection and it's NOT WinUAE..??? But using MUI to create the screen the same crash would happen, or at least perhaps not "same" but that MS terminate happens. Hmm.. I haven't done so in a while, I'll use another PPC browser and see if that MS terminate still happens.

07 February 2018, 20:34	#40
AC/DC HACKER! Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth Posts: 884	I doubt it, but I'll ask anyway.. Shall I record a video for you to see all the steps and stuff? The links I had provided before will display video through your browser.

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