New cache system and Dhtml preview

RCK · 20 July 2003, 17:12

I've finally manage to update the HOL's core and interface !

What's new ?

thumbnail cache system
game definition which will be viewed once will generate cached thumbnail version of pictures for other users.
this will boost game definition display for 50% on already viewed games.
dhtml picture viewer (if javascript detected)
users will now be able to see the full size picture into one "floating layer" over the game definition !
no need to open popup windows to see it now.
tips: you can move arround the full pic by clicking the top transparent bar and moving it

Ian · 20 July 2003, 17:20

Quote:

Originally posted by RCK
dhtml picture viewer (if javascript detected)
users will now be able to see the full size picture into one "floating layer" over the game definition !
no need to open popup windows to see it now.
tips: you can move arround the full pic by clicking the top transparent bar and moving it

Nice, but why does the bar have to be transparent, with a **very** thin black line the only guide as to where the bar is.

A filled bar would be better in my opinion

Marcuz · 20 July 2003, 17:53

mah... i just need to accustom to it. cute anyway

Twistin'Ghost · 21 July 2003, 02:25

Damn, HOL is all messed up for me now. I click on pictures to view larger versions and nothing happens. Also, cheat codes run outside of their box. In a nutshell, I can only barely even use HOL now. This sucks.

Frog · 21 July 2003, 09:40

On Amiga using IBrowse, Dhtml picture viewer features doesn't work. It's still popup a new window. Except that everything is ok.

RCK · 21 July 2003, 14:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Frog
On Amiga using IBrowse, Dhtml picture viewer features doesn't work. It's still popup a new window. Except that everything is ok.

it has been coded for this result

Moreover, I have just updated the border color from black to grey, much better.

@Twist: about the starting position of the layer, it's just under your mouse, then just click on the top-bar to drag&drow the picture where you like.

RCK · 21 July 2003, 14:32

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Originally posted by Twistin'Ghost
I click on pictures to view larger versions and nothing happens.

was tested correctly on IE, netscape & mozilla. (will check with opera 7.20 in a few hours)
- if the dhtml script don't work with your browser, simply disable javascript to go back to previous version.

RCK · 21 July 2003, 16:02

I just tested the code with opera 7.20, it's working correctly.
what browser are you using twist ?

RCK · 21 July 2003, 18:12

Dhtml preview rendering updated, much easier to understand how to move or close the full pic now.

Twistin'Ghost · 22 July 2003, 09:50

Quote:

Originally posted by RCK
I just tested the code with opera 7.20, it's working correctly.
what browser are you using twist ?

I drag the mouse over the pciture, but it's like clicking on nothing. The link address displays on my address bar, but that's all I get.

Running Opera 6.05

Twistin'Ghost · 22 July 2003, 09:55

OK, I just fired up an old Opera 7 beta version I have installed but never much messed with (not very elegant) and it worked with the floating pop-up thingie. I can't tell if its Opera 7 or the new way of displaying pics that feels so...muddy. It seemed OK for screenshots, but kinda weirdish for boxscans. I dunno. Will try at work tomorrow and see how it performs on a "modern/fast" machine.

Marcuz · 22 July 2003, 19:11

in Mozilla if i drag the image on the up/down browser's window border AND the page is big enough to be scrollable, the scroll starts up leaving the image behind; when i scroll back to where i left it, the pointer stll move it, just is some inch separated from it, like:

*pointer

*image

In IExplorer if i do the same, after i've touched the border, provoking no scroll at all, the image is glued to the pointer even if i've released the mouse button, and 'til i press it again. (this part happens in Mozilla too).

no real problem tough, it's nice... even if i prefered the version with darker layout and no text.

Twistin'Ghost · 23 July 2003, 22:55

Ugh...I really hate it. Like I said, for small images, dragging around is fine. But when I bring up, for example, the Lost Dutchman Mine advertisment, I can grab the top to move it to a certain point, but when it gets high enough in the browser window, the page scrolls up and lose the image entirely. Then I have to go to the scroll bar to see the image. So it's TWO steps to see the image instead of one. And if I have to use Opera 7 with its less streamlined interface, I reckon I will just do without full-size images.

Also, things look weird now. Look at the Notes: field below with the two unique sets of ANSI-looking text displays. Is this intentional? Similar things happening on the table above (on the left side, anyway).

Twistin'Ghost · 23 July 2003, 22:58

I chose to view Developer for Magnetic Images and when it rendered the page, it came out like this (the bottom area is all funky, but if I alt-tab, then return back to the browser window, then it's OK). (sigh)

RCK · 24 July 2003, 22:56

yep you are right for boxscan, full size new window is back for this view.

about your other's problem, I can't reproduce them ?

Twistin'Ghost · 25 July 2003, 13:19

Quote:

Originally posted by RCK
yep you are right for boxscan, full size new window is back for this view.

about your other's problem, I can't reproduce them ?

Thanks on the boxscans! Can you also make Misc Shots this way, as well, since most of those are magazine advertisements which are as big or bigger than the boxes. (Lost Dutchman Mine is, again, a fine example.)

Those screens were taken on my W2k machine at work...I tried those pages here at home and they display proper. /me makes note to self to add this to list of reasons why I don't like W2k...

RCK · 25 July 2003, 14:55

updated rendering for misc-shot

Amiga1992 · 30 July 2003, 02:14

This new systrem works like SHIT on Safari 1.0(v85). The little screen appears way below, centered nowhere, it has no transparent border, and it can't be dragged or closed.

Try to check it out RCK. It was much better before :/

RCK · 30 July 2003, 18:42

actual solution:
- disable javascript when browsing

future solution:
- use the switch display when it will be added to interface

20 July 2003, 17:12	#1
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,091	New cache system and Dhtml preview I've finally manage to update the HOL's core and interface ! What's new ? thumbnail cache system game definition which will be viewed once will generate cached thumbnail version of pictures for other users. this will boost game definition display for 50% on already viewed games. dhtml picture viewer (if javascript detected) users will now be able to see the full size picture into one "floating layer" over the game definition ! no need to open popup windows to see it now. tips: you can move arround the full pic by clicking the top transparent bar and moving it

23 July 2003, 22:55	#13
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Ugh...I really hate it. Like I said, for small images, dragging around is fine. But when I bring up, for example, the Lost Dutchman Mine advertisment, I can grab the top to move it to a certain point, but when it gets high enough in the browser window, the page scrolls up and lose the image entirely. Then I have to go to the scroll bar to see the image. So it's TWO steps to see the image instead of one. And if I have to use Opera 7 with its less streamlined interface, I reckon I will just do without full-size images. Also, things look weird now. Look at the Notes: field below with the two unique sets of ANSI-looking text displays. Is this intentional? Similar things happening on the table above (on the left side, anyway). Attached Thumbnails

23 July 2003, 22:58	#14
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	If it ain't broken, don't fix it I chose to view Developer for Magnetic Images and when it rendered the page, it came out like this (the bottom area is all funky, but if I alt-tab, then return back to the browser window, then it's OK). (sigh) Attached Thumbnails

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20 July 2003, 17:53	#3
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	mah... i just need to accustom to it. cute anyway

21 July 2003, 02:25	#4
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Damn, HOL is all messed up for me now. I click on pictures to view larger versions and nothing happens. Also, cheat codes run outside of their box. In a nutshell, I can only barely even use HOL now. This sucks.

21 July 2003, 09:40	#5
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,385	On Amiga using IBrowse, Dhtml picture viewer features doesn't work. It's still popup a new window. Except that everything is ok.

21 July 2003, 16:02	#8
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,091	I just tested the code with opera 7.20, it's working correctly. what browser are you using twist ?

21 July 2003, 18:12	#9
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,091	Dhtml preview rendering updated, much easier to understand how to move or close the full pic now.

22 July 2003, 09:55	#11
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	OK, I just fired up an old Opera 7 beta version I have installed but never much messed with (not very elegant) and it worked with the floating pop-up thingie. I can't tell if its Opera 7 or the new way of displaying pics that feels so...muddy. It seemed OK for screenshots, but kinda weirdish for boxscans. I dunno. Will try at work tomorrow and see how it performs on a "modern/fast" machine.

22 July 2003, 19:11	#12
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	in Mozilla if i drag the image on the up/down browser's window border AND the page is big enough to be scrollable, the scroll starts up leaving the image behind; when i scroll back to where i left it, the pointer stll move it, just is some inch separated from it, like: pointer image In IExplorer if i do the same, after i've touched the border, provoking no scroll at all, the image is glued to the pointer even if i've released the mouse button, and 'til i press it again. (this part happens in Mozilla too). no real problem tough, it's nice... even if i prefered the version with darker layout and no text.

24 July 2003, 22:56	#15
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,091	yep you are right for boxscan, full size new window is back for this view. about your other's problem, I can't reproduce them ?

25 July 2003, 14:55	#17
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,091	updated rendering for misc-shot

30 July 2003, 02:14	#18
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	This new systrem works like SHIT on Safari 1.0(v85). The little screen appears way below, centered nowhere, it has no transparent border, and it can't be dragged or closed. Try to check it out RCK. It was much better before :/

30 July 2003, 18:42	#19
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,091	actual solution: - disable javascript when browsing future solution: - use the switch display when it will be added to interface

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