wacom stylus/cursor absolute positioning issue?

02 January 2014, 13:25

exactly as the docs state, i last used an amiga emulator about 10 years ago, amazing to see how fast and user friendly its become since then.

fired up deluxe paint 3, was pleased that i could remember my painting tricks from 20 years ago.

tried to use my wacom stylus with it, found it doesn't work very well; when I touch the stylus to the tablet, the amiga cursor jumps to another location. it seems that fs-uae in fullscreen is trying to set a relative cursor position, while the wacom stylus is trying to set an absolute position.

i know its a very niche request, but is there a solution for this? it might become a bigger issue later as tablet pc's become more popular (and an eventual android port appears!)

Toni Wilen · 02 January 2014, 13:39

"mousehack" mode (It injects absolute mouse coordinates to input.device, only works if program is system friendly) probably is included with FS-UAE, only need to find how to enable it.

It can't ever work with programs that take over the system, without game-specific patching.

02 January 2014, 15:13

oh cool! couldn't see an option in the fs-uae preferences anywhere, but I've seen other posts mention a text config file for other options. I'll do some research, see if I can enable it that way.

thanks!

FrodeSolheim · 02 January 2014, 17:41

There isn't any way enable mousehack in FS-UAE for the time being - FS-UAE does not currently send absolute mouse coordinates to the UAE core. It is possible to add support for it, but I may have to change how the SDL code works with regard to SDL mouse grab when I want to read absolute pointer coordinates.

02 January 2014, 23:51

Ah ok, I might try one of the other UAE builds. Thanks for the info guys!

*time passes*

Ah, looks like that's a winuae thing, and I'm on osx. Will steal time on a windows box when I get a sec...

Toni Wilen · 03 January 2014, 10:50

All UAE versions should have at least basic mousehack mode.

FrodeSolheim · 27 September 2014, 13:52

An initial version of mouse integration / mousehack / magic mouse is available in the latest development version (2.5.17dev). I haven't got a tablet, so I haven't actually tested it with tables. Works well with mouse at least

thinlega · 30 January 2015, 13:04

@FrodeSolheim I cant see the mouse hack options in the latest beta? Are they hiding in the preferences somewhere?

Thanks for adding this option by the way!

FrodeSolheim · 30 January 2015, 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinlega

@FrodeSolheim I cant see the mouse hack options in the latest beta? Are they hiding in the preferences somewhere?

Kind of

There's no UI for it yet, add the following to custom configuration (you'll find it in the main menu):

Code:

mouse_integration = 1

thinlega · 31 January 2015, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrodeSolheim

Kind of

There's no UI for it yet, add the following to custom configuration (you'll find it in the main menu):

Code:

mouse_integration = 1

Ah! that explains it.

I have managed to get it working, with my Wacom tablet. You also need to turn off both of the 'Grab mouse' options in the mouse settings or the mouse will still jump about when the pen is pressed down (left mouse button).

Thanks again for implementing this feature dude!

FrodeSolheim · 31 January 2015, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinlega

You also need to turn off both of the 'Grab mouse' options in the mouse settings or the mouse will still jump about when the pen is pressed down (left mouse button).

This is not needed, these options (automatic_input_grab, initial_input_grab) are automatically disabled (*) if mouse_integration is disabled.

(*) Unless the options are explicitly enabled by the user. Then you actually have to disable the options or reset to "Default").

thinlega · 01 February 2015, 13:26

Ok, thanks I will set them back to default. I must have been messing with the options when I was first trying to get it working. Cheers Dude!

lovinggames · 01 March 2015, 17:22

I can confirm that mouse hack works for me with Wacom on Linux.

lovinggames · 20 August 2016, 04:56

Was the "mouse_integration = 1" removed from Fs-Uae? Because I add that to the advanced settings but it is removed from the settings automatically.

My wacom pen pointer goes berserk inside the emulator.

thanks

jbl007 · 22 August 2016, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovinggames

Was the "mouse_integration = 1" removed from Fs-Uae? Because I add that to the advanced settings but it is removed from the settings automatically.

This option is not allowed in global advanced settings. Write it to your config and it should work again.

lovinggames · 22 August 2016, 20:41

@jbl007

Thanks for the tip

Team_Hoi · 19 February 2017, 12:45

Hi,

I've just got FS-UAE running with a HD file containing DPaint IV. It's pure magic having a working DPaint on my screen again. It must have been almost 20 years ago or so since I last worked with DPaint.

There's only one issue I can't seem to resolve. I'm working with a Wacom Cintiq tablet, and FS-UAE uses only a small portion of the Cintiq screen to drive the Amiga mouse pointer. This results in the pointer accelerating past the position of my Wacom pen. I've switched the Amiga Mouse in the FS-UAE Launcher to a Cintiq entry in the drop-down menu, but then the pointer doesn't move at all.

Searching for a solution I stumbled across this thread. How do I realize the mouse hack that's mentioned here? Or is there maybe a new solution in the mean time?

Many thanks in advance.

Team_Hoi · 19 February 2017, 13:34

Ah, entering "mouse_integration = 1" in the FS-UAE Launcher's Custom Configuration window solved the issue!

Team_Hoi · 19 February 2017, 14:26

I've just discovered a new issue. One of the Wacom pen buttons serves as my right mouse button, but the right-click menus in DPaint only open for a short moment, then disappear again, no matter if I hold down the right mousebutton.

This only occurs when I switch to MacOS full screen mode though. Does anyone recognize this issue?

Thanks,

Metin

emufan · 19 February 2017, 16:48

did you tested some of the graphics tablet driver software in the zone: Tablet.Driver.Software.zip ?
one thing a while back it was discovered, the tablet.library is used by dpaint. this is on the accupoint wacom disk.
the registered gtdriver 1.0r does also support wacom tablets.
cannot say how well it will work inside emulation, but when you run out of ideas, just have a look into the driver collection.

02 January 2014, 13:25	#1
sea Posts: n/a	wacom stylus/cursor absolute positioning issue? exactly as the docs state, i last used an amiga emulator about 10 years ago, amazing to see how fast and user friendly its become since then. fired up deluxe paint 3, was pleased that i could remember my painting tricks from 20 years ago. tried to use my wacom stylus with it, found it doesn't work very well; when I touch the stylus to the tablet, the amiga cursor jumps to another location. it seems that fs-uae in fullscreen is trying to set a relative cursor position, while the wacom stylus is trying to set an absolute position. i know its a very niche request, but is there a solution for this? it might become a bigger issue later as tablet pc's become more popular (and an eventual android port appears!)

02 January 2014, 23:51	#5
sea Posts: n/a	Ah ok, I might try one of the other UAE builds. Thanks for the info guys! time passes Ah, looks like that's a winuae thing, and I'm on osx. Will steal time on a windows box when I get a sec... Last edited by sea; 03 January 2014 at 06:29.

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02 January 2014, 13:39	#2
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,517	"mousehack" mode (It injects absolute mouse coordinates to input.device, only works if program is system friendly) probably is included with FS-UAE, only need to find how to enable it. It can't ever work with programs that take over the system, without game-specific patching.

02 January 2014, 15:13	#3
sea Posts: n/a	oh cool! couldn't see an option in the fs-uae preferences anywhere, but I've seen other posts mention a text config file for other options. I'll do some research, see if I can enable it that way. thanks!

02 January 2014, 17:41	#4
FrodeSolheim FS-UAE Developer Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Førde, Norway Age: 43 Posts: 4,043	There isn't any way enable mousehack in FS-UAE for the time being - FS-UAE does not currently send absolute mouse coordinates to the UAE core. It is possible to add support for it, but I may have to change how the SDL code works with regard to SDL mouse grab when I want to read absolute pointer coordinates.

03 January 2014, 10:50	#6
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,517	All UAE versions should have at least basic mousehack mode.

27 September 2014, 13:52	#7
FrodeSolheim FS-UAE Developer Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Førde, Norway Age: 43 Posts: 4,043	An initial version of mouse integration / mousehack / magic mouse is available in the latest development version (2.5.17dev). I haven't got a tablet, so I haven't actually tested it with tables. Works well with mouse at least

30 January 2015, 13:04	#8
thinlega .:Part-Time Winner:. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 531	@FrodeSolheim I cant see the mouse hack options in the latest beta? Are they hiding in the preferences somewhere? Thanks for adding this option by the way!

01 February 2015, 13:26	#12
thinlega .:Part-Time Winner:. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 531	Ok, thanks I will set them back to default. I must have been messing with the options when I was first trying to get it working. Cheers Dude!

01 March 2015, 17:22	#13
lovinggames Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: moscov/russia Posts: 44	I can confirm that mouse hack works for me with Wacom on Linux.

20 August 2016, 04:56	#14
lovinggames Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: moscov/russia Posts: 44	Was the "mouse_integration = 1" removed from Fs-Uae? Because I add that to the advanced settings but it is removed from the settings automatically. My wacom pen pointer goes berserk inside the emulator. thanks

22 August 2016, 20:41	#16
lovinggames Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: moscov/russia Posts: 44	@jbl007 Thanks for the tip

19 February 2017, 12:45	#17
Team_Hoi Former Amiga game creator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 212	Hi, I've just got FS-UAE running with a HD file containing DPaint IV. It's pure magic having a working DPaint on my screen again. It must have been almost 20 years ago or so since I last worked with DPaint. There's only one issue I can't seem to resolve. I'm working with a Wacom Cintiq tablet, and FS-UAE uses only a small portion of the Cintiq screen to drive the Amiga mouse pointer. This results in the pointer accelerating past the position of my Wacom pen. I've switched the Amiga Mouse in the FS-UAE Launcher to a Cintiq entry in the drop-down menu, but then the pointer doesn't move at all. Searching for a solution I stumbled across this thread. How do I realize the mouse hack that's mentioned here? Or is there maybe a new solution in the mean time? Many thanks in advance.

19 February 2017, 13:34	#18
Team_Hoi Former Amiga game creator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 212	Ah, entering "mouse_integration = 1" in the FS-UAE Launcher's Custom Configuration window solved the issue!

19 February 2017, 14:26	#19
Team_Hoi Former Amiga game creator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 212	I've just discovered a new issue. One of the Wacom pen buttons serves as my right mouse button, but the right-click menus in DPaint only open for a short moment, then disappear again, no matter if I hold down the right mousebutton. This only occurs when I switch to MacOS full screen mode though. Does anyone recognize this issue? Thanks, Metin

19 February 2017, 16:48	#20
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	did you tested some of the graphics tablet driver software in the zone: Tablet.Driver.Software.zip ? one thing a while back it was discovered, the tablet.library is used by dpaint. this is on the accupoint wacom disk. the registered gtdriver 1.0r does also support wacom tablets. cannot say how well it will work inside emulation, but when you run out of ideas, just have a look into the driver collection.

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