CDTV mouse mode emulation

mk1 · 15 February 2009, 15:23

Hi,

I think this was discussed sometime earlier so I thought maybe it would be a good time to bring it up as a separate topic.

Currently there's no CDTV mouse mode emulation and this makes playing certain titles impossible (Wrath of the Demon, Shiftrix & Lettrix, Cubulus & Magic Serpent to name some). Would it be a great task to implement this or is there already some workaround in WinUAE for this?

Toni Wilen · 17 February 2009, 11:58

Do you mean regular mouse isn't working? (CDTV pad in mouse mode = CDTV special hardware emulates mouse movements)

mk1 · 17 February 2009, 12:08

No, regular mouse doesn't do the trick. There's some difference in controlling the mouse pointer with the IR remote in mouse mode compared to software that use a real mouse. It's kinda stupid that the IR controller mouse mode won't function with a real mouse. A bit difficult to explain how they differ but I think I've seen some Workbench tools that do the same thing, like control your mouse pointer with a joystick.

Toni Wilen · 17 February 2009, 16:04

Looks like game expects smooth and slow mouse movements. (lazy coding)
Probably works fine if you use input panel to configure mouse movement to keys or joystick/pad buttons. (and possibly adjust mouse speed)

mk1 · 17 February 2009, 16:49

Ok, thanks for the tip. I'll have to give this a try.

EDIT:
Well Toni, I'm happy to report that it does work in fact the way you suggested it, but there's only one problem now: it's way too fast for some games. You can't move the pointer accurately enough unless there's some kind of a slow down option but it does the job for Wrath of the Demon for example.

Now if only you had these options as a preset and with the slow down..

EDIT2:
Oh, and adjusting mouse speed had no effect on the keyboard controls, unfortunately.

mk1 · 17 February 2009, 22:36

I noticed that it was in fact Digital joy-mouse speed that had some effect on the mouse speed but this varied depending on the program. The values that gave a reasonable results were between 1-3 so there's not a lot of room really.

The problem is the accelration as very small movements are still hard to do even if the mouse rolling speed is satisfactory.

15 February 2009, 15:23	#1
mk1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Helsinki / Finland Posts: 403	CDTV mouse mode emulation Hi, I think this was discussed sometime earlier so I thought maybe it would be a good time to bring it up as a separate topic. Currently there's no CDTV mouse mode emulation and this makes playing certain titles impossible (Wrath of the Demon, Shiftrix & Lettrix, Cubulus & Magic Serpent to name some). Would it be a great task to implement this or is there already some workaround in WinUAE for this?

17 February 2009, 16:49	#5
mk1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Helsinki / Finland Posts: 403	Ok, thanks for the tip. I'll have to give this a try. EDIT: Well Toni, I'm happy to report that it does work in fact the way you suggested it, but there's only one problem now: it's way too fast for some games. You can't move the pointer accurately enough unless there's some kind of a slow down option but it does the job for Wrath of the Demon for example. Now if only you had these options as a preset and with the slow down.. EDIT2: Oh, and adjusting mouse speed had no effect on the keyboard controls, unfortunately. Last edited by mk1; 17 February 2009 at 21:10.

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17 February 2009, 11:58	#2
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,514	Do you mean regular mouse isn't working? (CDTV pad in mouse mode = CDTV special hardware emulates mouse movements)

17 February 2009, 12:08	#3
mk1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Helsinki / Finland Posts: 403	No, regular mouse doesn't do the trick. There's some difference in controlling the mouse pointer with the IR remote in mouse mode compared to software that use a real mouse. It's kinda stupid that the IR controller mouse mode won't function with a real mouse. A bit difficult to explain how they differ but I think I've seen some Workbench tools that do the same thing, like control your mouse pointer with a joystick.

17 February 2009, 16:04	#4
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,514	Looks like game expects smooth and slow mouse movements. (lazy coding) Probably works fine if you use input panel to configure mouse movement to keys or joystick/pad buttons. (and possibly adjust mouse speed)

17 February 2009, 22:36	#6
mk1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Helsinki / Finland Posts: 403	I noticed that it was in fact Digital joy-mouse speed that had some effect on the mouse speed but this varied depending on the program. The values that gave a reasonable results were between 1-3 so there's not a lot of room really. The problem is the accelration as very small movements are still hard to do even if the mouse rolling speed is satisfactory.

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