Tf1260

[fitzsteve]

If people stop buying the CPU at these prices they'd have to drop the price. I'm glad I got my BPPC upgraded before the prices shot up though, the CPU are now more expensive than what I paid including the work to do the upgrade!

[fitzsteve]

I guess it's FOMO culture. Can't really blame people for selling them at these prices if buyers are happy to pay. I do wonder what it means for the likes of the ACA 1260, might as well trash the card and just sell the CPU!

[Chucky]

for the moment it doesnt look good is all I can say.

TF have(had) no 040 support as it simply would drive the price up of the card (040 being all 5V)

[eXeler0]

Technically, the "V" variant of the 040 (e.g. 68040RC25V) supposedly can run on 3.3V but these are probably nowhere as common as regular 040 so it might not help much.. But in theory its an option.

[Debvgger]

The current high 68060 prices only mean one thing for me, and that is that it's time to jump to the FPGAs for good... :-(

[Chucky]

the V version is 3.3V yes. but no fpu! so then you can use a 060LC instead. aprox same price. better speed..

[Chucky]

FPGA is the way yes. sadly there is no 060 core available yet.

[roondar]

Originally Posted by Chucky

FPGA is the way yes. sadly there is no 060 core available yet.

Oh it would be awesome if a true 68060 core would be available. Just imagine an FPGA accelerator that focuses purely on getting the processor as accurate to original MC68k processors... (Perhaps it could have other stuff outside of the FPGA such as HDMI or perhaps audio, but the focus should be on the compatible core). You could have an accelerator that could feature a MC680x0 core of your choice for maximum compatibility or speed.

Add in some niceties such as speed selection and you could have the basis for the "ultimate" retro MC68k accelerator

It's a nice idea for sure!

[Chucky]

to be honest. even a solution with a ARM cpu running a JIT 68060 emulation would be awesome.

[roondar]

Actually, yeah.. You have a point

[eXeler0]

Originally Posted by Chucky

the V version is 3.3V yes. but no fpu! so then you can use a 060LC instead. aprox same price. better speed..

Aah yes, those sneaky bastards at Motorola didn't name it 68EC040RC25V for some reason?

But regarding the LC060, the native support in Amiga is not great, not terrible ;-)
SpeedGeek is having a go at ThomasR on this Topic :-) (Or maybe its the other way around :-) )
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=LC060

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by eXeler0

Aah yes, those sneaky bastards at Motorola didn't name it 68EC040RC25V for some reason?

But regarding the LC060, the native support in Amiga is not great, not terrible ;-)
SpeedGeek is having a go at ThomasR on this Topic :-) (Or maybe its the other way around :-) )
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=LC060

the 2:nd RC in the 040 is that it is ceramic packaging..

using a LC is possible it however requiers some effort. but if you handle it as if you have a 030 witghout FPU. (030 binaries etc) it works pretty nice

[Jope]

Vampire discussion split to http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=104170, any further comments on that in this thread will just be deleted, because your moderator is feeling lazy.

[HelloBeautiful]

The TF1260s even with cheap LC cpus would have been a complete game changer. 060 speed for everyone priced at 200€. i do wonder what issues are left in the design.

[Chucky]

my TF1260 works fine.. there are some issues at higher speeds (my LC works at 75Mhz. but at 80 it is somewhat unstable)

but sadly! for the moment I would say no tf :-/ lets hope for a change. it all depends on the community I guess

[HelloBeautiful]

Originally Posted by Chucky

my TF1260 works fine.. there are some issues at higher speeds (my LC works at 75Mhz. but at 80 it is somewhat unstable)

but sadly! for the moment I would say no tf :-/ lets hope for a change. it all depends on the community I guess

Does it work otherwise? Not being able to clock to 105mhz is not a deal breaker for anyone. Blizzards clock at, what, 66-80mhz? and while the Apollos can go higher they do it so that the actual performance outside the cache drops as the memory access is slowed to half.

[Chucky]

yes I am very happy with how my TF boards work. now even my Rev0 board works with 3.9 when I got an update for that aswell..

so for the moment when TF seems cancelled it is a sad moment. I hope for the best

[klx300r]

Originally Posted by Chucky

yes I am very happy with how my TF boards work. now even my Rev0 board works with 3.9 when I got an update for that aswell..

so for the moment when TF seems cancelled it is a sad moment. I hope for the best

well if the community is like me we want a quality/ tested/ reliable ‘real’060 card with no RTG, ethernet etc. that we can buy from a trusted Amiga person/ reseller! Don’t care if it works at 200MHz as long as its stable at 66 and ‘stable’ is the most important factor eh

[Jope]

Originally Posted by Chucky

it all depends on the community I guess

What can the community do to help?

[Chucky]

not to be dickheads...