Mac os 7.5.3 on shapeshifter

_ThEcRoW · 02 March 2006, 18:34

Ok, i just downloaded the mac os 7.5.3 disk images from apple as it are free, but they are in .bin type file, and cannot get it to work under shapeshifter. Is there any special tip on recognizing those images in shapeshifter?
On the other hand, in the shapeshifter docs say that you need to boot with the tools disk, but since the disks i have only are numbered from 1 to 19, i don't know what is this disk, so i assumed it was the forst of all.
Any clues at all?
Thanks in advance!!!!!!

Ironclaw · 02 March 2006, 18:39

Mount the bin file with daemontools

_ThEcRoW · 02 March 2006, 18:51

I'm using shapeshifter under amiga os, not on win.

keropi · 02 March 2006, 18:58

disk images? 19 of them? bin? I think it could be some file u run on mac and creates install floppies...

Flashlab · 02 March 2006, 19:15

Check this site:

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~miles.j/shape.html#dl

I did it with a PC and Basilisk. I made a bootable hardfile with System 7.5.3 on it and transferred that to my Amiga with FTP.
The guide for PC basilisk can be of help too:

http://os-emulation.net/basiliskII/system753_tutorial/

_ThEcRoW · 02 March 2006, 19:24

But on the docs of shapeshifter says that it can be done with it directly under amiga os.
Is impossible then and i'm only allowed to do it via my pc?.

mr_a500 · 02 March 2006, 20:16

I did it directly on my A500. You need to have Stuffit in your bootfile. Extract the .bin files with Stuffit, then run the install.

Deja-vu - I think I already wrote some posts about this here recently with links to some good bootfiles.

Flashlab · 02 March 2006, 21:59

The first link is an Amiga only link!!!!!!!

Mad-Matt · 02 March 2006, 23:23

I remember it being a real messy process when i was getting those mac disk images from amiga to mac side, using crossmac to mount the mac partition under aos and i cant remember if the emu had to be running or not. Anyhow I can upload my own MacOS 7.5.5 setup hardfile if you like. Might be nice to have it perminantly downloadable somewhere though.

Methanoid · 03 March 2006, 09:07

Zone it... U know U want to....

Mad-Matt · 03 March 2006, 11:50

Uploaded. Its a bootable hardfile with the system folder taken from the 7.5.3 NetInstall disk, so its pretty close to how a real mac would be installed

.

Run the setup for 7.5.3 as usual and once the entire process is completed, you can mount and run the 7.5.5 upgrade disk. If it boms after boot then Appshare extention will most likely be the cause and need removing. I cant remember if it had this effect on 7.5.5 or 7.6.1.

http://wp.netscape.com/download/0402...----_qual.html :- May be useful for downloading older netscape versions to use as a browser under macos.

Slayer · 04 March 2006, 03:35

I found the installation of Fusion was far less painful than shapeshifter...

The FusionPPC version however didn't support Picasso96... but it didn't really matter for running 7.5.5 under m68k 060...

Finally got around to installing MacOS to look at Warlords II... Carmen Sandiago isn't a bad version either...

adios

Flashlab · 04 March 2006, 14:31

On my setup Fusion can be run only once and then I have to reboot to make it work again. Also I can't get Fusion to work with cd-rom (IDE or SCSI). Maybe because I'm missing the mscd.device?

Slayer · 05 March 2006, 06:11

it recognised my cdrom fine, standard A4000 ide, perhaps you should look at the cdrom config window of Fusion again...

I don't recall a missing device... but even then, you should be able to locate a missing device

Flashlab · 05 March 2006, 12:30

I use a CS MK2 SCSI module. If I try to use the cybscsi.device with unit 1; that's should be correct as that is how the scsi chain is configured, Fusion tells me that it's improperly configured!

I read somewhere you need the mscd.device to use the cd-rom...??

Slayer · 05 March 2006, 19:16

well, as my initial searches have revealed, you should be able to find information quite easily.

appears mscd.device is an internal part of Fusion...

maybe you need to get a later version of fusion?

check out this page to see if you've missed something

good luck

http://maconamiga.amigaworld.net/fus...ion_setup.html

Slayer · 05 March 2006, 19:19

perhaps you've tried to enter the information twice?

taken from the guide

You can specify the IDE or SCSI CDROM drive on this screen (or you can specify it in the SCSI section, but
do not use both!). HFS/PC is the normal CD file system used on Macs to read CDs.

Flashlab · 05 March 2006, 21:18

I already read that site. I have the mscd.device file now too but it's not working either. Also I tried cd cd-rom setup and the scsi setup. One at each time and when they didn't work also together...

Maybe I need to install Fusion properly because I manually installed Fusion 3.2. Maybe I missed some files?

Slayer · 05 March 2006, 21:29

I wouldn't think so... otherwise you'd bound to get requests conveying missing libraries or whatnot...

I too installed 3.1 using the installer and then added the 3.2 updates...

my setup is different from yours... I have a 4.3g UW attached to the cybscsi.device and the MacHD file on that... I could have used the entire device but decided against it...

I have a zip drive attached to a gvp scsi card and that is accessed no worries either...

maybe you should reinstall and carefully install the update again... who knows...

btw, my fusion is orignal (from the CD version) so, dunno if that makes a difference or not...

Flashlab · 05 March 2006, 22:04

I don't have the original install but a Fusion 3.2 packed lha file. I have found the device files seperately. I don't get any missing library messages but just that the cd-rom device is not properly setup.
When I try to use it via the SCSI menu it just doesn't work; I don't get any error messages.

It seems that Fusion doesn't recognize the cybscsi.device at all. It is in the CS rom but should work?

02 March 2006, 18:34	#1
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	Mac os 7.5.3 on shapeshifter Ok, i just downloaded the mac os 7.5.3 disk images from apple as it are free, but they are in .bin type file, and cannot get it to work under shapeshifter. Is there any special tip on recognizing those images in shapeshifter? On the other hand, in the shapeshifter docs say that you need to boot with the tools disk, but since the disks i have only are numbered from 1 to 19, i don't know what is this disk, so i assumed it was the forst of all. Any clues at all? Thanks in advance!!!!!!

03 March 2006, 11:50	#11
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	Uploaded. Its a bootable hardfile with the system folder taken from the 7.5.3 NetInstall disk, so its pretty close to how a real mac would be installed . Run the setup for 7.5.3 as usual and once the entire process is completed, you can mount and run the 7.5.5 upgrade disk. If it boms after boot then Appshare extention will most likely be the cause and need removing. I cant remember if it had this effect on 7.5.5 or 7.6.1. http://wp.netscape.com/download/0402...----_qual.html :- May be useful for downloading older netscape versions to use as a browser under macos. Last edited by Mad-Matt; 03 March 2006 at 11:56.

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02 March 2006, 18:39	#2
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	Mount the bin file with daemontools

02 March 2006, 18:51	#3
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	I'm using shapeshifter under amiga os, not on win.

02 March 2006, 18:58	#4
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	disk images? 19 of them? bin? I think it could be some file u run on mac and creates install floppies...

02 March 2006, 19:15	#5
Flashlab Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 158	Check this site: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~miles.j/shape.html#dl I did it with a PC and Basilisk. I made a bootable hardfile with System 7.5.3 on it and transferred that to my Amiga with FTP. The guide for PC basilisk can be of help too: http://os-emulation.net/basiliskII/system753_tutorial/

02 March 2006, 19:24	#6
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	But on the docs of shapeshifter says that it can be done with it directly under amiga os. Is impossible then and i'm only allowed to do it via my pc?.

02 March 2006, 20:16	#7
mr_a500 Amiga-based Cyborg Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 808	I did it directly on my A500. You need to have Stuffit in your bootfile. Extract the .bin files with Stuffit, then run the install. Deja-vu - I think I already wrote some posts about this here recently with links to some good bootfiles.

02 March 2006, 21:59	#8
Flashlab Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 158	The first link is an Amiga only link!!!!!!!

02 March 2006, 23:23	#9
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	I remember it being a real messy process when i was getting those mac disk images from amiga to mac side, using crossmac to mount the mac partition under aos and i cant remember if the emu had to be running or not. Anyhow I can upload my own MacOS 7.5.5 setup hardfile if you like. Might be nice to have it perminantly downloadable somewhere though.

03 March 2006, 09:07	#10
Methanoid Retired Quartex Sysop Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Roman Verulamium Age: 58 Posts: 1,873	Zone it... U know U want to....

04 March 2006, 03:35	#12
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	I found the installation of Fusion was far less painful than shapeshifter... The FusionPPC version however didn't support Picasso96... but it didn't really matter for running 7.5.5 under m68k 060... Finally got around to installing MacOS to look at Warlords II... Carmen Sandiago isn't a bad version either... adios

04 March 2006, 14:31	#13
Flashlab Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 158	On my setup Fusion can be run only once and then I have to reboot to make it work again. Also I can't get Fusion to work with cd-rom (IDE or SCSI). Maybe because I'm missing the mscd.device?

05 March 2006, 06:11	#14
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	it recognised my cdrom fine, standard A4000 ide, perhaps you should look at the cdrom config window of Fusion again... I don't recall a missing device... but even then, you should be able to locate a missing device

05 March 2006, 12:30	#15
Flashlab Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 158	I use a CS MK2 SCSI module. If I try to use the cybscsi.device with unit 1; that's should be correct as that is how the scsi chain is configured, Fusion tells me that it's improperly configured! I read somewhere you need the mscd.device to use the cd-rom...??

05 March 2006, 19:16	#16
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	well, as my initial searches have revealed, you should be able to find information quite easily. appears mscd.device is an internal part of Fusion... maybe you need to get a later version of fusion? check out this page to see if you've missed something good luck http://maconamiga.amigaworld.net/fus...ion_setup.html

05 March 2006, 19:19	#17
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	perhaps you've tried to enter the information twice? taken from the guide You can specify the IDE or SCSI CDROM drive on this screen (or you can specify it in the SCSI section, but do not use both!). HFS/PC is the normal CD file system used on Macs to read CDs.

05 March 2006, 21:18	#18
Flashlab Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 158	I already read that site. I have the mscd.device file now too but it's not working either. Also I tried cd cd-rom setup and the scsi setup. One at each time and when they didn't work also together... Maybe I need to install Fusion properly because I manually installed Fusion 3.2. Maybe I missed some files?

05 March 2006, 21:29	#19
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	I wouldn't think so... otherwise you'd bound to get requests conveying missing libraries or whatnot... I too installed 3.1 using the installer and then added the 3.2 updates... my setup is different from yours... I have a 4.3g UW attached to the cybscsi.device and the MacHD file on that... I could have used the entire device but decided against it... I have a zip drive attached to a gvp scsi card and that is accessed no worries either... maybe you should reinstall and carefully install the update again... who knows... btw, my fusion is orignal (from the CD version) so, dunno if that makes a difference or not...

05 March 2006, 22:04	#20
Flashlab Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 158	I don't have the original install but a Fusion 3.2 packed lha file. I have found the device files seperately. I don't get any missing library messages but just that the cd-rom device is not properly setup. When I try to use it via the SCSI menu it just doesn't work; I don't get any error messages. It seems that Fusion doesn't recognize the cybscsi.device at all. It is in the CS rom but should work?

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