Did I make a stupid purchase?

Rabbit80 · 06 June 2009, 15:32

I bought this item on ebay (Amiga 1200/30 32 meg ram board+40mhz) last night thinking that it was an 030 acellerator as it has 32Mb RAM where the 1200 can only address 8Mb with the 020, also why would a RAM board have a 40Mhz crystal?.. Was I right - or have I just made a foolish purchase? (I was very drunk at the time)

Peter · 06 June 2009, 15:37

It must be an 030 accelerator card... see if you can find out any other details from the seller about the card...a model number for example... it could be an Elbox card.

Rabbit80 · 06 June 2009, 15:42

I hope so... It was a good price if it is

meega · 06 June 2009, 15:59

What is on the other side of the board?

Rabbit80 · 06 June 2009, 16:02

I honestly don't know! I only bought it yesterday on impulse.. It will arrive by the end of the week I think!

Photon · 06 June 2009, 16:12

And he asks us? Just ask the seller!?? hehe

It looks to me as if you have a 68030 on the underside, see solderpattern. Or at least a socket for one

Looks like an accelerator board to me.

DJBase · 06 June 2009, 16:15

Its an Apollo 1230 Turbo Mk3 so yes, its a 68030 accelerator. http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/apollo1230mk3

fc.studio · 06 June 2009, 16:17

In my opinion it's the Elbox 1230-II:

http://www.amiga-resistance.info/bbo...944&artlang=de

Crystal is for speed of optional FPU.

Zetr0 · 06 June 2009, 16:20

@Rabbit80

Its an Apollo 030 Mk3, your safe.... it can handle upto 64MB of ram over the two Simm Ports

heres a hot linkie

A damn fine card and easly over-clockable to 50mhz

for just over £80 including delivery i would say thats a bargain at todays prices

alas i noted theres no FPU (not that this is a whole loss) but for £10 + a couple of quid postage heres an 68882

see.... i am just to good to you

congrats on your drunken purchase.

[edit]
DJBase beat me too it... lol good show sir.... btw the card you bought is the 40mhz version *there is a 50mhz version that has a PGA 030*

Rabbit80 · 06 June 2009, 16:26

Many thanks for your help

I'm pretty happy with my drunken purchase

fc.studio · 06 June 2009, 16:35

@DJBase, @Zetro
You are right about the Apollo... it seems exactly the Winner 1230 version, coming from Act/Apollo/Elbox family.

Zetr0 · 06 June 2009, 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbit80

Many thanks for your help

I'm pretty happy with my drunken purchase

you should be, and for about £5 on Amigakit you can add the second simm port so you can have 64MB of ram, also Amigakit sell 50mhz Osc (14pin DIL) for about £5 too so whoot

if you are taking the QFP030 upto 50 though, I would suggest a cooling heatsink, one from those chipset or memory heatsinks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc.studio

@DJBase, @Zetro
You are right about the Apollo... it seems exactly the Winner 1230 version, coming from Act/Apollo/Elbox family.

indeed, it would seem that ACT / Elbox kinda got it on me thinks LOL

Rabbit80 · 06 June 2009, 16:52

Alas - I have no more money to spend on Amiga this month... So all upgrades like FPU, Osc, etc can now wait till payday

Still - it is by far the cheapest I have seen one of these boards go for recently!

DH · 06 June 2009, 16:55

Maybe all your purchases should be done whilst intoxicated. Looks like you can find the bargain of the month that way. Nice purchase mate! You make me feel jealous

Think I'll try that tonight, I may be able to purchase a fully working A1200 for 10p

Bloodwych · 06 June 2009, 17:00

It clearly says 1200/30 upgrade in the description, plus shows an accelerator in the pics so I'm not sure why you were confused.

Great purchase.

Will be even better with a ClassicWB.

mr.vince · 06 June 2009, 21:31

I know the seller - Tony - and have bought several games from him. Always well wrapped, good stuff. I think you made a good purchase.

AmigaFriend · 06 June 2009, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

Great purchase.

Will be even better with a ClassicWB.

Of course it will!

prowler · 06 June 2009, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

Maybe all your purchases should be done whilst intoxicated. Looks like you can find the bargain of the month that way. Nice purchase mate!

Think I'll try that tonight, I may be able to purchase a fully working A1200 for 10p

Why so pessimistic, mate?

You'll probably get it for free!

dkovacs · 13 June 2009, 15:30

I don't think you made a stupid purchase - it will definitely speed up your Amiga. I bought a DKB Cobra (68030) and love the thing - I have a 64MB SIMM on it, works like a charm. It maps it properly so you can still use PCMCIA (I have an ethernet card connected to mine). And remember, all the best ebay purchases ever made have been made after a few pints of beer.

Rabbit80 · 13 June 2009, 18:35

As it turns out - it WAS a good purchase.. I am more than happy with it, and the price was good too!

I had to short the WAIT jumper to make it work correctly - I gather that this slows the RAM access down a touch - how much performance am I losing due to this? I'm also going to put a 50MHz crystal on it to replace the 40MHz one - but not for a week or two yet!

06 June 2009, 15:32	#1
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 43 Posts: 633	Did I make a stupid purchase? I bought this item on ebay (Amiga 1200/30 32 meg ram board+40mhz) last night thinking that it was an 030 acellerator as it has 32Mb RAM where the 1200 can only address 8Mb with the 020, also why would a RAM board have a 40Mhz crystal?.. Was I right - or have I just made a foolish purchase? (I was very drunk at the time)

06 June 2009, 15:37	#2
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	It must be an 030 accelerator card... see if you can find out any other details from the seller about the card...a model number for example... it could be an Elbox card. Last edited by Peter; 06 June 2009 at 15:44.

06 June 2009, 16:55	#14
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	Maybe all your purchases should be done whilst intoxicated. Looks like you can find the bargain of the month that way. Nice purchase mate! You make me feel jealous Think I'll try that tonight, I may be able to purchase a fully working A1200 for 10p Last edited by DH; 06 June 2009 at 17:16.

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06 June 2009, 15:42	#3
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 43 Posts: 633	I hope so... It was a good price if it is

06 June 2009, 15:59	#4
meega Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oooh what a feeling yeaaah dancing on the ceiling Posts: 314	What is on the other side of the board?

06 June 2009, 16:02	#5
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 43 Posts: 633	I honestly don't know! I only bought it yesterday on impulse.. It will arrive by the end of the week I think!

06 June 2009, 16:12	#6
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,627	And he asks us? Just ask the seller!?? hehe It looks to me as if you have a 68030 on the underside, see solderpattern. Or at least a socket for one Looks like an accelerator board to me.

06 June 2009, 16:15	#7
DJBase Amiga is my Religion Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 578	Its an Apollo 1230 Turbo Mk3 so yes, its a 68030 accelerator. http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/apollo1230mk3

06 June 2009, 16:17	#8
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 54 Posts: 804	In my opinion it's the Elbox 1230-II: http://www.amiga-resistance.info/bbo...944&artlang=de Crystal is for speed of optional FPU.

06 June 2009, 16:20	#9
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Rabbit80 Its an Apollo 030 Mk3, your safe.... it can handle upto 64MB of ram over the two Simm Ports heres a hot linkie A damn fine card and easly over-clockable to 50mhz for just over £80 including delivery i would say thats a bargain at todays prices alas i noted theres no FPU (not that this is a whole loss) but for £10 + a couple of quid postage heres an 68882 see.... i am just to good to you congrats on your drunken purchase. [edit] DJBase beat me too it... lol good show sir.... btw the card you bought is the 40mhz version there is a 50mhz version that has a PGA 030

06 June 2009, 16:26	#10
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 43 Posts: 633	Many thanks for your help I'm pretty happy with my drunken purchase

06 June 2009, 16:35	#11
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 54 Posts: 804	@DJBase, @Zetro You are right about the Apollo... it seems exactly the Winner 1230 version, coming from Act/Apollo/Elbox family.

06 June 2009, 16:52	#13
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 43 Posts: 633	Alas - I have no more money to spend on Amiga this month... So all upgrades like FPU, Osc, etc can now wait till payday Still - it is by far the cheapest I have seen one of these boards go for recently!

06 June 2009, 17:00	#15
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	It clearly says 1200/30 upgrade in the description, plus shows an accelerator in the pics so I'm not sure why you were confused. Great purchase. Will be even better with a ClassicWB.

06 June 2009, 21:31	#16
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	I know the seller - Tony - and have bought several games from him. Always well wrapped, good stuff. I think you made a good purchase.

13 June 2009, 15:30	#19
dkovacs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Goderich Ontario Canada Age: 47 Posts: 64	I don't think you made a stupid purchase - it will definitely speed up your Amiga. I bought a DKB Cobra (68030) and love the thing - I have a 64MB SIMM on it, works like a charm. It maps it properly so you can still use PCMCIA (I have an ethernet card connected to mine). And remember, all the best ebay purchases ever made have been made after a few pints of beer.

13 June 2009, 18:35	#20
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 43 Posts: 633	As it turns out - it WAS a good purchase.. I am more than happy with it, and the price was good too! I had to short the WAIT jumper to make it work correctly - I gather that this slows the RAM access down a touch - how much performance am I losing due to this? I'm also going to put a 50MHz crystal on it to replace the 40MHz one - but not for a week or two yet!

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