Amiga inc reveal new entry Amiga computer - $489usd - Page 2

Methanoid · 01 May 2007, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

if only half of this time was used in making an x86 compatible system (instead of ppc *pointless propriety chipset* LOL) we could of all had an option to run an amiga OS by now... and they would of made money instead of lawsuits! and hot air with vapourware companys!

Yes, would be nice to run AmigaOS 5.0 or whatever instead of XP or MacOSX.

They should have accepted after 10 years that x86 dominates. PPC has died -even Apple accepted that.

tootoid · 01 May 2007, 10:50

At the end of the day if you want exotic hardware and unusual operating systems you're gonna pay for it. You want lots o' speed for not a lot of cash, go and build yourself an Intel PC and put Windows/Linux on it.

I'm interested in the Amiga for the same reason I use PPC Macs and old Sun UltraSparcs, they're different and I like seeing how they work. Computers are gonna be reeeally boring when they all use exactly the same hardware and work in exactly the same way.

P.S. PPC architecture isn't dead! Wii uses it! XBox360 uses it! PS3 uses it!

Ian · 01 May 2007, 11:11

The differnece being that the 360 and PS3 are 3.2 ghz not 400mhz.

I'd sooner pay $10 more and get the entry level PS3 and install linux on it and get yourself a far more capable and interesting box.

Talk about different hardware, you don't get much different than the CELL processor.

DDNI · 01 May 2007, 11:12

Yes it is well known that through fear of real competition the collective might of Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are suppressing the development of our Amiga PPC platform

Doc Mindie · 01 May 2007, 11:21

Guys.. please......

Back in 1992, before the big c strangled themselves..... the 486 was faster than the A4000/040 that came out, remember? People with 486 STILL drooled at our computers because we had the "community spirits" and we dared to be different. Three years later and the Pentium PC's rolled of the shelves.... and they still looked at our inferior (CPU-speedwise) computers and drooled.

What has happened to that? Just because Windows now requires 91278 GHz and 928375 GB Ram to be able to run the OS alone, doesn't mean the "new" amigas can't still be drooled at, by people with 4times RAM, 10time CPU power..... With some good luck, the new Amiga's may very well stun the Redmonds yet again.

(Yes, I'm compulsively optimistic.... but then again, I have my A1200 behind me, in working order as I type :P )

tootoid · 01 May 2007, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

The differnece being that the 360 and PS3 are 3.2 ghz not 400mhz.

I'd sooner pay $10 more and get the entry level PS3 and install linux on it and get yourself a far more capable and interesting box.

Talk about different hardware, you don't get much different than the CELL processor.

Yeah but then you'd have a PS3 running Linux, not an Amiga (assuming you want to class this new one as a proper Amiga).

This new machine is probably slow but then the OS is probably leaner than XP or OSX and can be tailored for the hardware. If they can be bothered they can optimise the pants off it and squeeze every last bit of speed out of the machine rather than just tell you to go buy more RAM and a faster CPU like MS do.

DDNI · 01 May 2007, 11:28

Surely it must have crossed your mind that Aming.Inc's NEW Amiga has arisen only to strengthen their argument in the court case.

Think, an OS with Hardware to run it on looks far more valuable, compared to a bunch of code with no hardware to run it on.

This $500 machine is pure Vapourware - it doesnt exist - it isnt an Amiga. If it did would it ever run OCS ECS AGA - UAE (fast enough to count)? NO!!!! of course it wont!

Ian · 01 May 2007, 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by tootoid

Yeah but then you'd have a PS3 running Linux, not an Amiga (assuming you want to class this new one as a proper Amiga).

This new machine is probably slow but then the OS is probably leaner than XP or OSX and can be tailored for the hardware. If they can be bothered they can optimise the pants off it and squeeze every last bit of speed out of the machine rather than just tell you to go buy more RAM and a faster CPU like MS do.

Isn't that what Linux is all about?

I wouldn't know only being a gaming nerd not a complete nerd.

tootoid · 01 May 2007, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Isn't that what Linux is all about?

I wouldn't know only being a gaming nerd not a complete nerd.

I wouldn't say I'm a complete nerd but.....erm...no it's true!....I am!

Nah, I think most Linux distros are a bit of a mess, they work, they might be fast but they ain't pretty.

Smiley · 01 May 2007, 12:50

Who would waste their money on this?

Looks like a pile of shite.

Why would anyone want an outdated PPC computer?

Can you play old amiga games on it?......no? What the hell is the point?

OS4 is waste of time when you can just grab XP or OSX

Seriously you are a real sucker if you waste your money on this.

Zetr0 · 01 May 2007, 12:53

@Smiley
its okay m8, these computer systems will never materialise anyway!

@Pyromaina
Where does Discreat FX sit on this? is the buy-out still going ahead? are Amiga Inc trying to big up a non-existent portfolio?

TikTok · 01 May 2007, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by tootoid

If they can be bothered they can optimise the pants off it and squeeze every last bit of speed out of the machine rather than just tell you to go buy more RAM and a faster CPU like MS do.

Does anyone do this these days though? RAM (and even processors) are so cheap that I don't think it can be financially viable for a company to spend time and money on optimisation. Its not like on the Amiga when one extra meg of RAM would mean the difference between people buying a program and not

Smiley · 01 May 2007, 13:09

If they want to make some money from nostalgia they should make a short production run of *new* more suped up classics.

So a run of A4000D/T with included PCI busboard
or a run of A1200D/T with included PCI busboard or 060 accelerator

Even then its pretty difficult for them to make profit. Its not very viable for them to make a new run of A4000Ds

Really they should just give up on Amiga...the brand and the classics.

Doc Mindie · 01 May 2007, 13:26

*cries silently for the nonbelievers*

only 14 more days guys, and we'll have a new Amiga for the first time since 1992..... please show a little faith, o heathens.

Ultron · 01 May 2007, 13:46

400 whole megahertz!!!!?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally!!!! WE HAVE DESTROYED THE ATARI ST!!

OH SWEET VICTORY, I ENTER YOU!!!!

ElectroBlaster · 01 May 2007, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiley

Who would waste their money on this?

Looks like a pile of shite.

Why would anyone want an outdated PPC computer?

Can you play old amiga games on it?......no? What the hell is the point?

OS4 is waste of time when you can just grab XP or OSX

Seriously you are a real sucker if you waste your money on this.

I will laugth my arse off if this thing does actually turn up and its in a pc case lol

Charlie · 02 May 2007, 00:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

a case (no pun intended) of way to little..... way too late.... infact not at all.... how can you declare that "we have a product.... in a year from now!" please.... its so sad its not even funny....

if only half of this time was used in making an x86 compatible system (instead of ppc *pointless propriety chipset* LOL) we could of all had an option to run an amiga OS by now... and they would of made money instead of lawsuits! and hot air with vapourware companys!

bah.... amiga.inc : all you ever wanted, never to be delivered!

what sickens me is that i can buy a laptop with more power / games and productivity and still get change compaired to that some what overpriced ppc junk... i mean.... 500 bucks for a PCI graphics solution!?!?!??! get the f*ck outa here fucktards!!!!!

Ditto

Anubis · 02 May 2007, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultron

400 whole megahertz!!!!?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally!!!! WE HAVE DESTROYED THE ATARI ST!!

OH SWEET VICTORY, I ENTER YOU!!!!

For 500 bucks you can get real computer today. Please someone take a Bill for a hand and take him to the nearest Best Buy or some other store and explain him numbers next to the 500 dollars computer range.

Ultron · 02 May 2007, 14:07

But it won't have the super boing ball sticker.

How can i compute without boing ball sticker?

Zetr0 · 02 May 2007, 14:09

fear not my friend. Amiga.inc will sell you one for $496 USD

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01 May 2007, 10:50	#22
tootoid Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 37	At the end of the day if you want exotic hardware and unusual operating systems you're gonna pay for it. You want lots o' speed for not a lot of cash, go and build yourself an Intel PC and put Windows/Linux on it. I'm interested in the Amiga for the same reason I use PPC Macs and old Sun UltraSparcs, they're different and I like seeing how they work. Computers are gonna be reeeally boring when they all use exactly the same hardware and work in exactly the same way. P.S. PPC architecture isn't dead! Wii uses it! XBox360 uses it! PS3 uses it!

01 May 2007, 11:11	#23
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	The differnece being that the 360 and PS3 are 3.2 ghz not 400mhz. I'd sooner pay $10 more and get the entry level PS3 and install linux on it and get yourself a far more capable and interesting box. Talk about different hardware, you don't get much different than the CELL processor.

01 May 2007, 11:12	#24
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Yes it is well known that through fear of real competition the collective might of Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are suppressing the development of our Amiga PPC platform

01 May 2007, 11:21	#25
Doc Mindie In deep Trouble Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manchester, Made in Norway Age: 51 Posts: 841	Guys.. please...... Back in 1992, before the big c strangled themselves..... the 486 was faster than the A4000/040 that came out, remember? People with 486 STILL drooled at our computers because we had the "community spirits" and we dared to be different. Three years later and the Pentium PC's rolled of the shelves.... and they still looked at our inferior (CPU-speedwise) computers and drooled. What has happened to that? Just because Windows now requires 91278 GHz and 928375 GB Ram to be able to run the OS alone, doesn't mean the "new" amigas can't still be drooled at, by people with 4times RAM, 10time CPU power..... With some good luck, the new Amiga's may very well stun the Redmonds yet again. (Yes, I'm compulsively optimistic.... but then again, I have my A1200 behind me, in working order as I type :P )

01 May 2007, 11:28	#27
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Surely it must have crossed your mind that Aming.Inc's NEW Amiga has arisen only to strengthen their argument in the court case. Think, an OS with Hardware to run it on looks far more valuable, compared to a bunch of code with no hardware to run it on. This $500 machine is pure Vapourware - it doesnt exist - it isnt an Amiga. If it did would it ever run OCS ECS AGA - UAE (fast enough to count)? NO!!!! of course it wont!

01 May 2007, 12:50	#30
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,350	Who would waste their money on this? Looks like a pile of shite. Why would anyone want an outdated PPC computer? Can you play old amiga games on it?......no? What the hell is the point? OS4 is waste of time when you can just grab XP or OSX Seriously you are a real sucker if you waste your money on this.

01 May 2007, 12:53	#31
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Smiley its okay m8, these computer systems will never materialise anyway! @Pyromaina Where does Discreat FX sit on this? is the buy-out still going ahead? are Amiga Inc trying to big up a non-existent portfolio?

01 May 2007, 13:09	#33
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,350	If they want to make some money from nostalgia they should make a short production run of new more suped up classics. So a run of A4000D/T with included PCI busboard or a run of A1200D/T with included PCI busboard or 060 accelerator Even then its pretty difficult for them to make profit. Its not very viable for them to make a new run of A4000Ds Really they should just give up on Amiga...the brand and the classics.

01 May 2007, 13:26	#34
Doc Mindie In deep Trouble Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manchester, Made in Norway Age: 51 Posts: 841	cries silently for the nonbelievers only 14 more days guys, and we'll have a new Amiga for the first time since 1992..... please show a little faith, o heathens.

01 May 2007, 13:46	#35
Ultron Something Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Amigaland, Nostalgia Age: 48 Posts: 757	400 whole megahertz!!!!? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally!!!! WE HAVE DESTROYED THE ATARI ST!! OH SWEET VICTORY, I ENTER YOU!!!!

02 May 2007, 14:07	#39
Ultron Something Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Amigaland, Nostalgia Age: 48 Posts: 757	But it won't have the super boing ball sticker. How can i compute without boing ball sticker?

02 May 2007, 14:09	#40
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	fear not my friend. Amiga.inc will sell you one for $496 USD

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