Blizzard PPC 68k socket

[PeteJ]

Hi all,

On my Blizzard PPC accelerator, the 060 cpu looks like it is installed in a black socket. I've read about people replacing their 040 for a 060 but they talk about desoldering the cpu directly from the board. Were the Blizzard PPC cards ever produced with a cpu socket or will this have been installed by a previous owner? (That is if it is actually a socket that I can see).

[alenppc]

As far as I know, the Blizzard PPCs were not shipped with a socket installed, so it was probably the previous owner who put it there.

[PeteJ]

Originally Posted by alenppc

As far as I know, the Blizzard PPCs were not shipped with a socket installed, so it was probably the previous owner who put it there.

Thanks for the reply

[stachu100]

Hi, some Blizzard PPC from phase5 were shipped WITH 040/060 socket installed.

[jbenam]

Originally Posted by stachu100

Hi, some Blizzard PPC from phase5 were shipped WITH 040/060 socket installed.

True. I'm pretty sure the broken one I've got back at home has a factory-installed socket.

Mine is a DCE one, though

[PeteJ]

Thanks to all for the information. I'm happy to hear that the socket was probably original to the manufacture and not installed by a previous owner.

[PeteJ]

Hi again all,

There is a possibility that my 060 cpu has failed in my Blizzard ppc card, I can only find one listing for 060 cpus on ebay. How can I know that it's a genuine 060 and not a faked other processor that has been re screen printed that I have read about? If it is genuine, would it be compatible with the Blizzard ppc?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1814794005...1#ht_499wt_904

thanks

[DDNI]

Originally Posted by PeteJ

ow can I know that it's a genuine 060 and not a faked other processor that has been re screen printed that I have read about? If it is genuine, would it be compatible with the Blizzard ppc?

Don't buy 68060 ICs from China or Ebay. Post a wanted advert here and on AMibay.

The auction you link to looks dodgy. The images don't match and the description states 60mhz part.

[roy bates]

not all the ones from china are dodgy...

[DDNI]

Originally Posted by roy bates

not all the ones from china are dodgy...

LOL yes that is true. Go ahead and buy 10 I am sure you will get a couple of good ones

[roy bates]

Originally Posted by DDNI

LOL yes that is true. Go ahead and buy 10 I am sure you will get a couple of good ones

ALL the cpu's ive had from china work...,000,010,020,030,040,060,ppc and many others 6501,6510,z80 etc

there are dodgy sellers everywhere,not just ebay.


its just common sense, if it looks dodgy and the comms are dodgy its a dodgy part,like anywhere..
but then again...there is buyer protection.

[alenppc]

Currently, there is a flood of "68060RC75" parts in China which are clearly fake since Motorola never made full 75 MHz parts. Also, some Chinese sellers list their location as United States but then they have suspiciously low shipping fees... Safest bet is to try on Amibay.

[PeteJ]

Thanks for the advice everyone I'll avoid ebay to be safe and ask within the Amiga community as you suggest.

Do I need a special type of cpu puller to take the 68k cpu safely out of the socket? I was going to try prizing it out with a flat head screw driver carefully around the cpu lifting it a small amount at a time until I can pull it out evenly by hand but I'd rather not if there's a chance of causing damage to the cpu or socket.

[jbenam]

There is a special CPU puller for the old 486s which is really good for 68040/68060s (I remember Jens has one) but it's really really rare to find and there's no easy-to-find modern equivalent of it.

I've successfully pulled 68040s out of their sockets using a flat screwdriver and lots of patience The only problem is that it might leave some "screwdriver marks" on the socket's plastic.

[alenppc]

That's what I do, pry them out very carefully with a flat screwdriver... no other option without the rare tool.

[PeteJ]

Thanks again. I will take the cpu out very carefully with a flat head screwdriver.

[Xtal]

There's a realy simple tool for PGA chips, that looks like this, made of thin spring steel....

http://download.intel.com/support/pr...m/351599_5.pdf

You can see the tool on page 13 of the PDF. It's for most LIF (Low Insertion Force) sockets.

Or, use a fork....

[jbenam]

Originally Posted by Xtal

There's a realy simple tool for PGA chips, that looks like this, made of thin spring steel....

http://download.intel.com/support/pr...m/351599_5.pdf

You can see the tool on page 13 of the PDF. It's for most LIF (Low Insertion Force) sockets.

Or, use a fork....

If you read just a few posts above yours (Post #14) you can see I've already thought of it
The problem is that it's ultra-rare and finding one nowadays would be a stroke of luck.

Most forks would just bend!

[Xtal]

Originally Posted by jbenam

If you read just a few posts above yours (Post #14) you can see I've already thought of it
The problem is that it's ultra-rare and finding one nowadays would be a stroke of luck.

Most forks would just bend!

I just can't understand why some asian company hasn't cloned something similar for the japanese videogame markets (Like the Sharp X68000) that has similar upgrade cards with PGA 68030/68882 and so on....

Well, if a fork bends, it's a crappy fork. Don't use your table silver, use stainless steel forks

The tool is so cheap to produce that even intel tossed one in every i486 upgrade kit....