18 May 2017, 14:52 | #61 |
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Yes, makes you wonder why the Atari fans bring the Falcon into the comparison, when the Falcon was accessible to less than 0.5% of all Atari ST users. 1 user of 200 STers had Falcon. So what? Even if it was more capable and was recording something to HD it was more rare than the Amiga 4000T/060 which beats the crap out of any Falcon.
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18 May 2017, 20:07 | #63 |
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18 May 2017, 20:13 | #64 |
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what da fuck phrase: "But all that is around, nope, the 1200 is more balanced" mean to you Amiga users? How Amiga is "better all around" computer?
- Atari Falcon had more quality displays (SM125 / VGA) - HD floppy, SCSI - Faster and more responsive OS with multitasking - More flexible resolutions / display modes - Audio input - More versatile applications like realtime sound effects, hard disc recording software - DSP decoding jpgs, mp3, movies ... hardware wise Atari Falcon is certainty more versatile than Amiga 1200. so how da fuck Amiga 1200 is more "balanced" or "better all around" computer? Only thing that is on Amiga 1200 side is price. For less money, you get less features |
18 May 2017, 22:27 | #65 |
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Software and its popularity would seem to suggest otherwise. So in the end none of that stuff matters, what matters is it's legacy, and that legacy far exceeds the Falcon.
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Or for that matter that AGA machines has pretty much fully programmable resolutions? For one example, there is an AGA driver for a 1280x720 non-laced display on Aminet. I've attached a (literal) screenshot of my A1200 displaying the 70Hz display. Works just fine over VGA. Last edited by roondar; 17 November 2018 at 13:35. Reason: Resized the screenshot to save attachment space |
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19 May 2017, 00:47 | #67 |
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19 May 2017, 01:20 | #68 |
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Seriously, does anyone today doubt the substantial advantage technically speaking of a Falcon compared to that of an A1200?
We are not talking about the software that obviously the Amiga, both in operating system and in quantity of software destroys it, but technically? Really someone here thinks that an A1200 stock was better technically than a stock Falcon? I thought the people of EAB had more knowledge about their machine. An Acorn Archimedes 3010 is better technically than an Amiga too, but obviously, no one compares them because it has almost no software. The Falcon is the same, more powerful, but without software. End of discussion. Someone let me know when a stock A1200 can do this as a stock Falcon. [ Show youtube player ] And Someone let me know when a stock A1200 can do this as a stock Arquimedes. [ Show youtube player ] Amiga rules! but inform you before you speak. Last edited by Estrayk; 19 May 2017 at 01:35. |
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As an ancient machine war veteran of old I had to give it up and I use everything today. I go where the software and hardware take me. In the past I was an Atari ST & Windows basher many eons ago. Today everything has its strengths and weaknesses. On the Amiga front WinUAE is one of the best software achievements in the last 1000 years. On that note I have not found a reason to use an Atari ST yet.
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Plus i didn't check what spec machine that demo was running on, i guess at least a 4mb model, that's £200 more than the A1200, for £200 could get you a nice 030 40mhz accelerator that would allow you to run 3D games faster, i guess that gap wouldn't have been as big had the price been on a level playing field. That's something PC gamers always seem to neglect too funny that |
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I've never seen a Falcon in the flesh in the past or present. Atari didn't make the machine available in enough areas and seemed focused in the Jaguar console more in those yester years long past.
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19 May 2017, 10:35 | #74 |
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I had a blizzard 1220 28mhz 020 (which is broadly 25mhz 030 performance) and there's no way that machine could match either Dml's quake 2 demos or badmood (doom) on the falcon.
One thing to mention about these two is that they're not on 'stock' Falcons, they need 14mb! |
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Does anyone know what the uk retail price of the falcon was? And what variations were available in terms of ram and hd?
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