AAA Chipset in software?

Pyromania · 19 October 2019, 15:28

What would the chances be of a AAA chipset implementation in software. I think Team Vampire mentioned a while ago that they would like to reach a goal like that eventually. Couldn’t something like this just be added to WinUAE? Am I just being an idolized dreamer?

gulliver · 19 October 2019, 16:58

In theory AAA could be incoporated as part of WinUAE, but then why would you want that?

There is absolutely zero software ever made for it.

S0ulA55a551n · 19 October 2019, 17:09

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Originally Posted by gulliver

In theory AAA could be incoporated as part of WinUAE, but then why would you want that?

There is absolutely zero software ever made for it.

I guess it could be interesting as an alternative history project. I kind of see what would have been achievable at the time had that project not been scrapped

Pyromania · 19 October 2019, 18:39

Right and maybe it would encourage developers to make new software for it. Old time developers might return to try out developing for the new features.

Solo Kazuki · 19 October 2019, 18:43

Is really requirements for making software for not existing hardware when You can use RTG instead when original chipsets are not enough?

What features have this AAA which RTG not have?

Rotareneg · 19 October 2019, 21:04

What hardware and documentation should this emulation be based upon?

I'm sure Toni will get right on to adding AAA to WinUAE as soon as he's got Lorraine and Ranger emulation finished.

Toni Wilen · 19 October 2019, 21:31

No specs, no hardware, no software: no sense.

Emulators are made to run existing software. Not the other way around.

Gorf · 20 October 2019, 00:17

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

No specs, no hardware, no software: no sense.

Emulators are made to run existing software. Not the other way around.

Tell that Joseph White from Pico-8

https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php

grelbfarlk · 20 October 2019, 00:19

How about just an RTG P96 Monitor driver called AAA, and a menu item in WinUAE for Graphics Board:AAA. I think this achieves everyone's goals.

Pyromania · 20 October 2019, 04:13

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Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

How about just an RTG P96 Monitor driver called AAA, and a menu item in WinUAE for Graphics Board:AAA. I think this achieves everyone's goals.

Don't forget the Blazemonger Monitor driver too!

pandy71 · 20 October 2019, 18:30

No added value - AAA if egver exist for real would be a dead end for Amiga graphics... just few interesting features (32 bit Copper with more functionality, perhaps HAM10, above this nothing special) + whole bunch of complicated circuitry.

LongLifeA1200 · 21 October 2019, 01:46

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Originally Posted by Pyromania

I think Team Vampire mentioned a while ago that they would like to reach a goal like that eventually.

Team Vampire seem to love twisting the meaning of words.
Their advertising is misleading.
Now they're focused on Atari at the moment.
They'll probably try to do consoles next.

People shouldn't bother with them anymore. There are other dev-boards that are cheaper and will do the same thing.

eXeler0 · 21 October 2019, 01:55

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Originally Posted by LongLifeA1200

Team Vampire seem to love twisting the meaning of words.
Their advertising is misleading.
Now they're focused on Atari at the moment.
They'll probably try to do consoles next.

People shouldn't bother with them anymore. There are other dev-boards that are cheaper and will do the same thing.

Now that's a good attempt at derailing this thread.

LongLifeA1200 · 21 October 2019, 07:58

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Originally Posted by eXeler0

Now that's a good attempt at derailing this thread.

It's not going to be implemented in WinUAE because it never existed. And yet, I have to read about another misleading claim from Apollo that they're planning on AAA. They must of named themselves after the comedy club.

tero · 21 October 2019, 08:05

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Originally Posted by Pyromania

I think Team Vampire mentioned a while ago that they would like to reach a goal like that eventually.

Didn't they archived that goal already with SAGA?

BippyM · 06 November 2019, 22:32

erm.... why?

tero · 06 November 2019, 22:40

Because SAGA is an enhancement to AGA. As far as i understasd it's different to RTG. (but i haven't read too much about it)

BippyM · 06 November 2019, 23:07

Sorry, I wasn't clear!!

Why would AAA be of any use?

tero · 06 November 2019, 23:30

No problem.
And to answer the question: it isn't usefull, it's just interesting imo.

Marchie · 07 November 2019, 01:14

I can't deny the AAA board looks fascinating. Completed but never produced...

AAA was still supposed to be backward compatible, was it not? So exisitng software should work with it no?

An FPGA implementation sounds cool, I know I'd try it out of there was ever a Vampire core with AAA. But hey, there's a big gap between 'I think it sounds cool' and 'someone should spend their time doing it'

19 October 2019, 15:28	#1
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,167	AAA Chipset in software? What would the chances be of a AAA chipset implementation in software. I think Team Vampire mentioned a while ago that they would like to reach a goal like that eventually. Couldn’t something like this just be added to WinUAE? Am I just being an idolized dreamer?

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Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,167	Right and maybe it would encourage developers to make new software for it. Old time developers might return to try out developing for the new features. Last edited by Pyromania; 30 November 2019 at 06:00. Reason: Spelling

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19 October 2019, 16:58	#2
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 41 Posts: 2,012	In theory AAA could be incoporated as part of WinUAE, but then why would you want that? There is absolutely zero software ever made for it.

19 October 2019, 18:43	#5
Solo Kazuki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 666	Is really requirements for making software for not existing hardware when You can use RTG instead when original chipsets are not enough? What features have this AAA which RTG not have?

19 October 2019, 21:31	#7
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 44 Posts: 23,346	No specs, no hardware, no software: no sense. Emulators are made to run existing software. Not the other way around.

20 October 2019, 00:19	#9
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,906	How about just an RTG P96 Monitor driver called AAA, and a menu item in WinUAE for Graphics Board:AAA. I think this achieves everyone's goals.

20 October 2019, 18:30	#11
pandy71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: PL Posts: 1,690	No added value - AAA if egver exist for real would be a dead end for Amiga graphics... just few interesting features (32 bit Copper with more functionality, perhaps HAM10, above this nothing special) + whole bunch of complicated circuitry.

06 November 2019, 22:32	#16
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Nottingham, UK Age: 44 Posts: 8,876	erm.... why?

06 November 2019, 22:40	#17
tero Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: M'Gladbach Age: 42 Posts: 588	Because SAGA is an enhancement to AGA. As far as i understasd it's different to RTG. (but i haven't read too much about it)

06 November 2019, 23:07	#18
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Nottingham, UK Age: 44 Posts: 8,876	Sorry, I wasn't clear!! Why would AAA be of any use?

06 November 2019, 23:30	#19
tero Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: M'Gladbach Age: 42 Posts: 588	No problem. And to answer the question: it isn't usefull, it's just interesting imo.

07 November 2019, 01:14	#20
Marchie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Sydney / London Posts: 490	I can't deny the AAA board looks fascinating. Completed but never produced... AAA was still supposed to be backward compatible, was it not? So exisitng software should work with it no? An FPGA implementation sounds cool, I know I'd try it out of there was ever a Vampire core with AAA. But hey, there's a big gap between 'I think it sounds cool' and 'someone should spend their time doing it'

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