Getting Future Wars running on KS3.1 - Page 4

Starglider 2 · 20 June 2015, 07:05

I don't think that device (clock/fastmem card) is relevant. How much chip men do you have? I can't get over 438k on my A500.

Arnie · 20 June 2015, 07:08

After WB has loaded, 457,136 chip, 8,072,776 fast

Starglider 2 · 20 June 2015, 07:14

Hmm and you get more than a black screen with moveable white cursor

Arnie · 20 June 2015, 07:16

I can start the game perfectly.

Try running with no startup, cd to the futurewars dir and type 'whdload slave futurewars.slave'

Starglider 2 · 20 June 2015, 17:45

Great idea, but unfortunately that doesn't work. I don't think it's a chip mem issue for me. I can move the large white arrow cursor around on the black screen, but that's it.

Could be a corrupt file, but I've tried recopying them all into the HDD once more. Hmm...

Arnie · 20 June 2015, 20:14

What is this Supra Clock you have installed? Have you tried with it removed?

Starglider 2 · 20 June 2015, 20:39

It's just fast mem and a clock battery. Original 80s hardware. I can try later. Wouldn't have expected it to conflict.

Arnie · 20 June 2015, 20:51

Failing that, if you type whdload into shell it will give you a list of options to try in the game .info file.

Starglider 2 · 04 July 2015, 00:32

Hey guys, guess what:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...w2040-h1148-no

It works!

So, the solution here was just one thing. Switch the Agnus to 8327A so that I can hold down both mouse buttons during boot and change the display to PAL. Then I insert the original Future Wars disk in the floppy drive, and it works!

I haven't been able to get any WHDLoad version working, but that's OK. I like doing things all original.

Thanks for all your help. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go back in time...

Arnie · 04 July 2015, 13:35

Thank f**k for that. Glad you got it working

Starglider 2 · 19 July 2015, 08:07

👍

BTW, were you able to save the game? Press both mouse buttons for the menu. For me, it keeps promoting for a blank formatted disk, even though that's what I've inserted several of.

I think my internal stock drive might be a little iffy, if it works for you...

Arnie · 19 July 2015, 17:17

I haven't tried it on a real Amiga but it works in WinUAE. Here's a Save disk to write to floppy.

Starglider 2 · 30 October 2015, 01:34

Unfortunately no save disk (even yours) will work. There are other reports of this issue: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=35674

Through some research, those with the issue say the WHDLoad version works fine as far as saving games goes.

However, that leads me back to square one and the issues in this thread. To recap:

- WHDLoad of this game just freezes at a blank screen with a large white cursor
- I've tried changing the boot display mode to PAL, the WB3.1 to PAL and adding "PAL" to the Future Wars WHDLoad icon's tooltype – same issue, black screen

So I still haven't actually played this game!

– If I run it from floppies by booting into PAL, it won't recognize any blank floppies as being formatted in order to save the game (essential)
– If I run it from WHDLoad, it doesn't proceed past a black screen

Help...?

Starglider 2 · 02 November 2015, 21:11

Bumping for hopeful help...

jotd · 02 November 2015, 21:58

Have you tried with KillerGorillas WHDDownload install? should work.
WHDLoad: are other games working for you? I know about pirated keyfiles that are detected and lead to a black screen.
WHDLoad is super-reliable and the best option for you.
Well, there's still ScummVM AGA (Future Wars is supported), but it will be slow.

Starglider 2 · 02 November 2015, 23:12

I think I got it working with WHDLoad. See bug tracker here: http://mantis.whdload.de/view.php?id=3306

Starglider 2 · 15 November 2015, 09:21

I finally played this great game through again. Highly recommended to all! Thanks for all the help getting it running.

04 July 2015, 00:32	#69
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Hey guys, guess what: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...w2040-h1148-no It works! So, the solution here was just one thing. Switch the Agnus to 8327A so that I can hold down both mouse buttons during boot and change the display to PAL. Then I insert the original Future Wars disk in the floppy drive, and it works! I haven't been able to get any WHDLoad version working, but that's OK. I like doing things all original. Thanks for all your help. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go back in time... Last edited by Starglider 2; 04 July 2015 at 18:07.

19 July 2015, 17:17	#72
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	I haven't tried it on a real Amiga but it works in WinUAE. Here's a Save disk to write to floppy. Last edited by Arnie; 12 October 2015 at 20:54.

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20 June 2015, 07:05	#61
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	I don't think that device (clock/fastmem card) is relevant. How much chip men do you have? I can't get over 438k on my A500.

20 June 2015, 07:08	#62
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	After WB has loaded, 457,136 chip, 8,072,776 fast

20 June 2015, 07:14	#63
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Hmm and you get more than a black screen with moveable white cursor

20 June 2015, 07:16	#64
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	I can start the game perfectly. Try running with no startup, cd to the futurewars dir and type 'whdload slave futurewars.slave'

20 June 2015, 17:45	#65
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Great idea, but unfortunately that doesn't work. I don't think it's a chip mem issue for me. I can move the large white arrow cursor around on the black screen, but that's it. Could be a corrupt file, but I've tried recopying them all into the HDD once more. Hmm...

20 June 2015, 20:14	#66
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	What is this Supra Clock you have installed? Have you tried with it removed?

20 June 2015, 20:39	#67
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	It's just fast mem and a clock battery. Original 80s hardware. I can try later. Wouldn't have expected it to conflict.

20 June 2015, 20:51	#68
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Failing that, if you type whdload into shell it will give you a list of options to try in the game .info file.

04 July 2015, 13:35	#70
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Thank f**k for that. Glad you got it working

19 July 2015, 08:07	#71
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	👍 BTW, were you able to save the game? Press both mouse buttons for the menu. For me, it keeps promoting for a blank formatted disk, even though that's what I've inserted several of. I think my internal stock drive might be a little iffy, if it works for you...

30 October 2015, 01:34	#73
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Unfortunately no save disk (even yours) will work. There are other reports of this issue: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=35674 Through some research, those with the issue say the WHDLoad version works fine as far as saving games goes. However, that leads me back to square one and the issues in this thread. To recap: - WHDLoad of this game just freezes at a blank screen with a large white cursor - I've tried changing the boot display mode to PAL, the WB3.1 to PAL and adding "PAL" to the Future Wars WHDLoad icon's tooltype – same issue, black screen So I still haven't actually played this game! – If I run it from floppies by booting into PAL, it won't recognize any blank floppies as being formatted in order to save the game (essential) – If I run it from WHDLoad, it doesn't proceed past a black screen Help...?

02 November 2015, 21:11	#74
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Bumping for hopeful help...

02 November 2015, 21:58	#75
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	Have you tried with KillerGorillas WHDDownload install? should work. WHDLoad: are other games working for you? I know about pirated keyfiles that are detected and lead to a black screen. WHDLoad is super-reliable and the best option for you. Well, there's still ScummVM AGA (Future Wars is supported), but it will be slow.

02 November 2015, 23:12	#76
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	I think I got it working with WHDLoad. See bug tracker here: http://mantis.whdload.de/view.php?id=3306

15 November 2015, 09:21	#77
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	I finally played this great game through again. Highly recommended to all! Thanks for all the help getting it running.

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