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Old 27 May 2020, 17:47   #21
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no need for LTSC.
If you don't want your installation reverted to default settings after every major "feature update" there is.
Not to mention the shitty adds and Candy Crush that suddenly snuck onto my system without me having a say about it.

I ran 10 Pro Edition like 5 years ago, had everything configured, removed crap like Cortana, IE, Edge and the lot of it and what happened after an intrusive feature update came along ?
I had to start all over again setting it up, in other words; I fdisked Windows partition and reinstalled 7 again.

The only 10 Edition that doesn't do that, screw up your default programs, settings and so on is: Ta-daaa, LTSC.
It only gets security updates, not any of those crappy feature updates that'll make your day real bad.
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Old 27 May 2020, 18:36   #22
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If you don't want your installation reverted to default settings after every major "feature update" there is.
Not to mention the shitty adds and Candy Crush that suddenly snuck onto my system without me having a say about it.
Every time I update (and I don't do it often btw) I just re-run O&O or WPD and that's all there is to it. I've never seen an ad, a rogue app, or even Metro itself for that matter.

I've also never experienced this "installation reverted to default" stuff people like to talk about. Maybe it was like that 5 years ago, but that is a long, long time and a lot has changed.

Sure, vanilla Win 10 is one giant spyware (just like Android) and it has awful interface, which older users like us rightfully hate (and new users are quite fond of actually). But, again, it does not take much time nor knowledge to alleviate this.

If LTSC was easily available/cheap then sure, it's a good option, but looking at their "Licensing" page my head starts to hurt immediately.
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no need for LTSC.
What dreadnought said. If you don't like Windows updating process potential side effects, just grab a custom version with the latest updates slipstreamed at the ISO level. AFAIK, LTSC is not the equivalent of "Pro" or even "Enterprise" version of Windows, just some watered down version for rigid-minded IT managers (I thought the same before making my mind and choosing the custom version offered by scarface & harkaz as featured on Maher's Digital World forum).

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Old 27 May 2020, 19:53   #24
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As far as I'm concerned Enterprise LTSC is superior in every way.
I wouldn't waste my time with any other edition.

Anyway, back to topic, this got a little sidetracked.
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It has been rebranded LTSB apparently. Not that its new name had made it significantly worthier .

https://www.computerworld.com/articl...explained.html
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It takes ~30 minutes to get Win 10 into a very usable shape. Simplewall, O&O, Classic Start Menu and few under-the-hood tweaks and you're done - no need for LTSC.
What a joke, having to install all those hacks just to make the OS usable. I don't understand why you guys put yourselves through the pain.

macOS is perfectly usable straight out of the box.
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I don't understand why you guys put yourselves through the pain.
One word: games

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What a joke, having to install all those hacks just to make the OS usable. I don't understand why you guys put yourselves through the pain.

macOS is perfectly usable straight out of the box.
I think some of us are masohochists, we love the challenge of seeing what the heck Microsoft has done and find ways to prevent said telemetry or whatever needs to be tweaked.

Maybe it's a mini-game, like playing OS Roulette
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What a joke, having to install all those hacks just to make the OS usable. I don't understand why you guys put yourselves through the pain.

macOS is perfectly usable straight out of the box.

I am sure that support for mac os games is great... for all 3 of them.
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I am sure that support for mac os games is great... for all 3 of them.
I think there are 4 or 5 now
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Don't forget to disable Nvidia Telemetry when done installing the new drivers .
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Not sure that works with newer drivers though.
I used to run this from command line after installing a new driver
rundll32 "%PROGRAMFILES%\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2\InstallerCore\NVI2.DLL",UninstallPackage NvTelemetryContainer

but it doesn't work for newer driver packages, that said, I always skip GeForce Experience and opt out of what I can, maybe that's why, idk.
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Not sure that works with newer drivers though.
I used to run this from command line after installing a new driver
rundll32 "%PROGRAMFILES%\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2\InstallerCore\NVI2.DLL",UninstallPackage NvTelemetryContainer

but it doesn't work for newer driver packages, that said, I always skip GeForce Experience and opt out of what I can, maybe that's why, idk.
That should NOT be the case, I do the same on my Desktop machine, no GeForce Experience either.
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For one, I like having the GPU driver companion icon residing in my system tray all the time. I don't play current gen PC games all that much, so I don't care for profiles. This said, there are a few noteworthy things GeForce Experience will do for you I guess, casual ones such as notify you of the occurrence of a new driver package, less casual ones such as GameStream if you happen to own a Shield enabled device. I think it's a bit simplistic to assume GeForce Experience is merely a giant spyware in disguise, but do as you see fit.
This said, my suggestion to the OP still holds, assuming OP went for the full driver package install : Using disable Nvidia Telemetry is recommended. I sanitized my own system thanks to the portable version just hours ago, right after making the jump to the latest version for my GTX 670 (don't laugh!), v446.14 (I was using v418.99 beforehand).




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Driver Version: 446.14.0.0
GeForce Experience Version: 3.20.3.63
Found task: NvTmRep_CrashReport1_{B2FE1952-0186-46C3-BAEC-A80AA35AC5B8}
Task is: Disabled
Found task: NvTmRep_CrashReport2_{B2FE1952-0186-46C3-BAEC-A80AA35AC5B8}
Task is: Disabled
Found task: NvTmRep_CrashReport3_{B2FE1952-0186-46C3-BAEC-A80AA35AC5B8}
Task is: Disabled
Found task: NvTmRep_CrashReport4_{B2FE1952-0186-46C3-BAEC-A80AA35AC5B8}
Task is: Disabled
Found registry item: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NvContainerLocalSystem
Registry item disabled: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NvContainerLocalSystem

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What a joke, having to install all those hacks just to make the OS usable. I don't understand why you guys put yourselves through the pain.

macOS is perfectly usable straight out of the box.
You are joking, yes?

Every time Apple updates they break enormous swathes of applications. These last two major system updates have rendered thousands of VST instruments useless, and that's just the bits of Apple's insane OS support issues that have affected me personally.
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I never liked Apple, since the day we had it in school (Apple II) which was purchased for 1k more then c64 at the time to recent ipad devices (I had 3 of them, one of them up to date, 1 out of support for years and 3rd one had some strange gravity issues while used by my son. )

So, let's not go into discussion about price of apple products and their support...
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Mac like 5 years ago - I did not want anything else. Macbook pro 2015 model, unbeatable. You can use it as a tennis racket and it'll still work afterwards.

Today? The next time I get to replace my work machine, I am considering going back to a regular Windows laptop. Apple just ain't the same anymore, especially the hardware itself. It's all flash an no quality.
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You can use it as a tennis racket and it'll still work afterwards.
You just volunteered to make a video of such a feat.

The average duration of a tennis match seems to be 2 hours and a half:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-av...s%20altogether.

but I would settle for one hour of use.
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