Classic WB and the scalos window

moondynejoe · 20 January 2009, 15:10

Hello I am currently using classicWB anvsp on my a1200 030 and pretty much love almost everything about it EXCEPT the scalos window.
How exactly do i turn this off? i dont mean scalos itself just the window it runs in, much the same way that a fresh install of WB3.1 has workbench initially running in a window untill you tick the "background" button.
I have looked through the options menu but cant seem to find anything that does it in there.

any help would be apprieciated.

also the only other thing i can think of adding to classic wb would be the app budgie, or at least i think thats what it is, the app that adds the extra menu buttons to the windows to show hidden files and adds one to switch to a filelist of the drawer contents.
is this app compatible with classicWB? if it is i will add it myself.

regards,
Joe

cybernoid · 20 January 2009, 17:54

Hi I'm not at home right now, but let see if I can help you

Go to Workbench menu (top) and find a menu item called backdrop (I think it's in the menu before help)

Then go down a bit with your mouse to an empty area, left click and go to 'snapshot all' option.

That's it

moondynejoe · 21 January 2009, 00:01

Hi and thanks for the reply, unfortunately that does not work with scalos i have already tried it, in fact i have tried everything i can think of and would believe it is not possible except other versions of classic wb seem to run scalos but not in a window/frame.

for some reason it bothers me having that window there.

cybernoid · 21 January 2009, 00:39

Well, lets try again. I'm using ClassicWB Full, but that should
work with all scalos-ClassicWB

Start your Amiga, then when the Workbench appears type
'Left/Right Amiga Key+B' (In WinUAE is the Right Win Key+B)
Then you should have the Scalos without the window.

To save, click the mouse in an empty place of the screen
and you should see a menu.
Go to the item in the menu that says snapshot and click in all.

Bloodwych · 21 January 2009, 08:12

As cybernoid says, you can use the keyboard shortcut just like a normal workbench to only show the background.

The option is also under the menubar at the top of the screen:

Shortcuts->Default->Background

Then snapshot.

Not sure if budgie is compatible. ClassicWB already has menu options to show all files and change the display mode under the popup menu, which opens when you right click on a window.

coze · 21 January 2009, 08:16

this worked for me, thanks (I was thinking about this for a while but too shy to ask

)

moondynejoe · 21 January 2009, 13:14

i have no shame so asking dumb questions doesnt bother me

ok so the shortcut works alright but it also gets rid of the titlebar!!

maybe i am too difficult to please but i kinda want my titelbar to be there just the window gone.

thanks for the help.

coze · 21 January 2009, 13:17

title bar ? why do you need the title bar for ?

moondynejoe · 21 January 2009, 14:15

wel i did not say "need" i said want and i want it because it has the time and date and free memory and some menu items in it.

it would be nice to have if possible.

Bloodwych · 21 January 2009, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by moondynejoe

ok so the shortcut works alright but it also gets rid of the titlebar!!

It sounds like you've changed a setting in the Scalos Prefs. There is an option to enable or disable "Full Bench". If you've enabled it, the titlebar will disappear when you select backdrop.

Go to Settings->Scalos->Prefs and then the Misc section. Remove the tick against Full Bench.

cybernoid · 21 January 2009, 22:54

By the way, I'm having troubles changing default drawer size:
Use to work replacing prefs:-etc-/sys/def_drawer.info now
when I change, Whenever I open a drawer without .info,
it opens a small window but not with the size of the def_drawer.info
ClassicWB Full+WinUAE

...and congratulations, ClassicWB is excelent

Bloodwych · 21 January 2009, 23:08

Hmm, I just tried replacing def_drawer.info in the SYS:Prefs/EnvArc/Sys location with a new file containing a different window position and size.

As expected, after a reboot, it also replaced the new default window position for all drawers without icons and new drawers created with icons.

I'm not sure why it's not working for you.

moondynejoe · 22 January 2009, 00:06

you are right bloodwych i did tick that box in one of my attempts to get rid of the scalos window.

i can fix that easily of course.

thanks for the help and keep up the great work on these packages.

regards,
Joe

20 January 2009, 15:10	#1
moondynejoe Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 23	Classic WB and the scalos window Hello I am currently using classicWB anvsp on my a1200 030 and pretty much love almost everything about it EXCEPT the scalos window. How exactly do i turn this off? i dont mean scalos itself just the window it runs in, much the same way that a fresh install of WB3.1 has workbench initially running in a window untill you tick the "background" button. I have looked through the options menu but cant seem to find anything that does it in there. any help would be apprieciated. also the only other thing i can think of adding to classic wb would be the app budgie, or at least i think thats what it is, the app that adds the extra menu buttons to the windows to show hidden files and adds one to switch to a filelist of the drawer contents. is this app compatible with classicWB? if it is i will add it myself. regards, Joe

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20 January 2009, 17:54	#2
cybernoid Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 135	Hi I'm not at home right now, but let see if I can help you Go to Workbench menu (top) and find a menu item called backdrop (I think it's in the menu before help) Then go down a bit with your mouse to an empty area, left click and go to 'snapshot all' option. That's it

21 January 2009, 00:01	#3
moondynejoe Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 23	Hi and thanks for the reply, unfortunately that does not work with scalos i have already tried it, in fact i have tried everything i can think of and would believe it is not possible except other versions of classic wb seem to run scalos but not in a window/frame. for some reason it bothers me having that window there.

21 January 2009, 00:39	#4
cybernoid Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 135	Well, lets try again. I'm using ClassicWB Full, but that should work with all scalos-ClassicWB Start your Amiga, then when the Workbench appears type 'Left/Right Amiga Key+B' (In WinUAE is the Right Win Key+B) Then you should have the Scalos without the window. To save, click the mouse in an empty place of the screen and you should see a menu. Go to the item in the menu that says snapshot and click in all.

21 January 2009, 08:12	#5
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	As cybernoid says, you can use the keyboard shortcut just like a normal workbench to only show the background. The option is also under the menubar at the top of the screen: Shortcuts->Default->Background Then snapshot. Not sure if budgie is compatible. ClassicWB already has menu options to show all files and change the display mode under the popup menu, which opens when you right click on a window.

21 January 2009, 08:16	#6
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	this worked for me, thanks (I was thinking about this for a while but too shy to ask )

21 January 2009, 13:14	#7
moondynejoe Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 23	i have no shame so asking dumb questions doesnt bother me ok so the shortcut works alright but it also gets rid of the titlebar!! maybe i am too difficult to please but i kinda want my titelbar to be there just the window gone. thanks for the help.

21 January 2009, 13:17	#8
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	title bar ? why do you need the title bar for ?

21 January 2009, 14:15	#9
moondynejoe Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 23	wel i did not say "need" i said want and i want it because it has the time and date and free memory and some menu items in it. it would be nice to have if possible.

21 January 2009, 22:54	#11
cybernoid Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 135	By the way, I'm having troubles changing default drawer size: Use to work replacing prefs:-etc-/sys/def_drawer.info now when I change, Whenever I open a drawer without .info, it opens a small window but not with the size of the def_drawer.info ClassicWB Full+WinUAE ...and congratulations, ClassicWB is excelent

21 January 2009, 23:08	#12
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Hmm, I just tried replacing def_drawer.info in the SYS:Prefs/EnvArc/Sys location with a new file containing a different window position and size. As expected, after a reboot, it also replaced the new default window position for all drawers without icons and new drawers created with icons. I'm not sure why it's not working for you.

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22 January 2009, 00:06	#13
moondynejoe Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 23	you are right bloodwych i did tick that box in one of my attempts to get rid of the scalos window. i can fix that easily of course. thanks for the help and keep up the great work on these packages. regards, Joe