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I can totally accept that it's not ecomomically feasible to make an 8M card..
That said, there are a lot of people who want to upgrade, but don't want to spend too much.. So, you can do 2 things... -Forget them (for this product) and cater only to the higher end customer who is totally OK with spending more money. -Convince them that your higher price is really worth it. So, what's the cheapest someone could produce an accellerator/RAM card for the 1200 for? To be honest, I'm thinking there's no convincing for the 2nd group (could be wrong, but???). So, you're talking about making it fast and putting cool widgets on it.. Then charge what those people are willing to pay. It's a smaller market, so you can charge them more... desiv (and again, I'm OK with that, because some people with 8M RAM cards might upgrade and sell their cards, increasing the number available. ;-) |
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Clone the design of the DKB 1202. That card allows for the addition of SLOW RAM, which no other trapdoor RAM card does. Couple that with the fact that it's brand new and you don't have to fight an epic bid war and the price should be justified.
Also, some of the cheaper cards are NOT shipped worldwide; stuff like that shouldn't count. |
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15 August 2010, 14:51 | #144 |
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id like a 060 card but carnt see how its possible
i need a bit help with mp3 mpeg divx video the idea of an external chipset ripped out of a cheap dvd player on the clockport would be rather wizzy i recall elbox was goin to support movie cards ! like this mp3 device but better chipset for movies also http://www.icomp.de/indexe.htm Atlantis is an external soundcard for all Amiga systems. The core is made up of a Motorola 56002 DSP (digital signal processor), which is clocked at 80 Mhz. This DSP can make any kind of sound generation, such as decoding MPG audio streams. The Amiga multitasking is not loaded when playing back music: |
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since new floppy disks are becoming difficult to get, the only solution will be WHDLoad and for that i will need ram...
so ram in the trapdoor... name your price... it will shortly be the only option! |
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AFAIK they are not stopping production of HD disks just yet. Some people say there is a difference, but I've used them as DD with Amiga for decades without data loss.
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I have to ask, other than an accelerator, what *other* bit of hardware would you like to see developed? |
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the cheapest ram today is sdcard so a sd card slot im not shure how fast it is but u can get some decent write speeds from some sdcards
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I've already posted.
I believe that the only electronics that the every day A1200 owner would want (that they cannot already buy today) other than an accelerator is a scan doubler. But the Indivision A1200 AGA filled that gap for a long time. You cannot buy them now, but the number of DCE & Indivision scandoublers out there seriously diminishes this market. You probably would not recoup your R&D. Which is why I didn't post this idea. Last edited by alexh; 15 August 2010 at 23:42. |
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thanks for your thoughts - sorry I missed them. |
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how about a doomsday device. You could have 10 barrel batteries installed in various critical locations on the motherboard!
If you don't change them in 8 years time the strange glowing ooze from the batteries leaks everywhere and takes the Amiga with it (or turns it into a Teenage Mutant Hero Turtle!) |
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As mentioned here (yes i want indivision aga too *LOL* ) a real upgrade would be a 68060 turbocard + grfx in one... but, when i have to choose i prefer the turbocard... its hard to get your hands on one and thats payable
or amigakit has to talk with the developers of the NATAMI team and maybe the can create a FPGA 050/060 card for the 1200 other upgrades wanted: -finished backplate for the indivision aga 1200 , so no fiddling anymore! -MAS player Last edited by Exit; 17 August 2010 at 12:03. |
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I would like to hear amigakits further thoughts on this thread since they started it?
IMHO any new hardware which isnt top of the range, must have and comparable of not better than what has already been developed -wont be a particularly good commercial success. |
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ZorRAM is an example of a hardware project which targeted a small subset of Amiga owners. It was for a subset of Amiga owners (only A3000 & A4000 owners) and then a subset of A3000/A4000 owners (i.e. ones without an accelerator which could take Fast RAM). I'd be curious to know the ROI of that project. I think in a previous thread that AmigaKit said it was a positive value (but then they would, wouldn't they? ) Last edited by alexh; 17 August 2010 at 17:05. |
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I'd also like to hear some feedback from amigakit regarding what they think of the proposals here, what kind of timeframe they will be working to and the like.
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I think it's more likely to be something high end that targets a subset of the small A1200 market that they can charge more for.. Just as they did with the ZorRam. Yes, it's a smaller market, but you can charge those people more. There are too many 1200 owners who just can't (won't) justify spending over $x amount, and that amount is less than an accelerator or most of the other ideas would cost. We (assuming I'm included :-) would love USB, but can't justify spending over $100 USD for that, especially considering some of us don't have RAM/Accelerators yet (because we feel they are too expensive). So, you're not going to get the whole (or even most) Amiga 1200 crowd. But you can shoot for the smaller subset who has proven they will open their wallets more for their hobby.. desiv |
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My comment wasn't really about price as a factor. Just functionality. I meant that your needed to appeal to all A1200 regardless of what hardware they own to sell products in that price bracket. But I do know what you mean and price is a big thing, with anything.
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I'm not sure that is true any more? Most of us 30-somethings have less disposable income right now than at any time in our lives. Perhaps you are right. Lets Tax the devoted fans (again) Last edited by alexh; 17 August 2010 at 18:11. |
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I hope that along with the hardware, they will consider the software too. A combined accelorator with a built in wireless network card would be cool if they can produce the drivers to let me log onto my router, and surf the net. thats just an example. Amigakit, lets hear your thoughts |
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Did you know you can already do that with an A1200 using a second hand £2.50 Prism2 PCMCIA wireless ethernet card & one of the existing Amiga TCP/IP stacks + Web-browsers?? Existing Amiga web-browsers are pretty poor compared to the PC. More and more so as websites go flash based. The experience is going to be terribly painful. It's not something that AmigaKit could fix. |
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