Maelstrom

brolly · 05 May 2012, 01:51

Is there any good dump of Maelstrom around (http://hol.abime.net/2376)?

Besides the TOSEC bad dumps can't find anything else, even a pre-installed HDF file would be great.

MasaelstromdddMaelstrom

Arnie · 05 May 2012, 10:35

Have you tried these?

http://www.thegamearchives.com/?val=..._4_17_0_13_0_0

mai · 05 May 2012, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

Have you tried these?

http://www.thegamearchives.com/?val=..._4_17_0_13_0_0

...more than likely the same as in TOSEC.

brolly · 05 May 2012, 18:33

Yeah those are TOSEC.

dlfrsilver · 06 May 2012, 14:08

Hello i have bought Maelstrom english release for amiga, just wait for it to arrive, and i'll image it as soon as i get it

brolly · 06 May 2012, 17:03

That would be great dlfrsilver, thanks!
I know there's something special needed about dumping them so here's hoping you'll be able to do it

dlfrsilver · 11 May 2012, 16:05

i got the game today, and i will upload the disk images tonight ^^

brolly · 11 May 2012, 23:32

Nice, will be waiting for it! Hope all goes well with the dumping process

dlfrsilver · 12 May 2012, 00:14

I have dumped the game for SPS / both RAW and Stream flux version, i'm currently uploading the dumps on their FTP.

Next, i'll upload the extended ADF, and the powercopy images.

brolly · 12 May 2012, 00:41

Perfect just perfect. So awesome to finally see this game properly dumped.

brolly · 12 May 2012, 07:15

Just saw you uploaded them, thanks a lot!
Did you try installing it on WinUAE? Because it's not recognizing disk 2 for me, it finishes the installation of the first disk and then it keeps asking for disk 2 and simply don't recognize it as being the correct disk.

dlfrsilver · 12 May 2012, 14:16

Ok, so this means it doesn't use the sync $4489 :S I must redo them :'(

brolly · 12 May 2012, 15:41

Too bad, this game seems to be challenging to dump properly. Hope you can manage to do it.

dlfrsilver · 12 May 2012, 16:03

i think that i will need the help of someone able to check what the game wants when loading disk 2 (and all the others). The fact is that the game use an MFM format seen as Dos format (LOL !), and while i tried to create extended ADF with RAWREAD, the game complains when loading track 9 "seccum error" which mean sector checksum error.

i tried to create an 'index' copy, but it's not enough, and the game doesn't recognize the disk 2.

Whitesnake · 12 May 2012, 16:32

dlfrsilver you should take a picture of your game collection sometime.

brolly · 12 May 2012, 17:05

I'm sure there are some members here that can assist you with that, at least I hope so. I can't help you with that because I'm afraid it's beyond my knowledge. Maybe create a new thread asking for help with it?

Just out of curiosity, it has nothing to do with the adf dumping, but if you install the game on a real amiga and then copy the installation folder to your pc hard drive and run it through WinUAE do you think the game would at least work?

dlfrsilver · 12 May 2012, 18:03

Yes the game works if i install it on hard drive, but we should have the game on extended ADF too.

brolly · 12 May 2012, 18:08

Yeah I agree, I was just asking because worst case scenario you could make an hdf available, but I hope you manage to properly dump it to extended adfs.
Now lets hope someone can help you out

Galahad/FLT · 12 May 2012, 22:49

I would imagine there is stuff hidden in the gap much like the protection track on Anco games and the John Twiddy games (Aladdin, Cool Spot etc) that is used by the games custom loader to check that its the original disk.

I suspect that the images for hard drive installation will be fine, will need someone to patch the ingame loader to stop it checking for the hidden gap stuff.

dlfrsilver · 13 May 2012, 19:30

the disks are not checked once installed on hard drive. Only loading from disk is a problem.

05 May 2012, 01:51	#1
brolly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lost Posts: 435	Maelstrom Is there any good dump of Maelstrom around (http://hol.abime.net/2376)? Besides the TOSEC bad dumps can't find anything else, even a pre-installed HDF file would be great. MasaelstromdddMaelstrom

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05 May 2012, 10:35	#2
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Have you tried these? http://www.thegamearchives.com/?val=..._4_17_0_13_0_0

05 May 2012, 18:33	#4
brolly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lost Posts: 435	Yeah those are TOSEC.

06 May 2012, 14:08	#5
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	Hello i have bought Maelstrom english release for amiga, just wait for it to arrive, and i'll image it as soon as i get it

06 May 2012, 17:03	#6
brolly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lost Posts: 435	That would be great dlfrsilver, thanks! I know there's something special needed about dumping them so here's hoping you'll be able to do it

11 May 2012, 16:05	#7
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	i got the game today, and i will upload the disk images tonight ^^

11 May 2012, 23:32	#8
brolly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lost Posts: 435	Nice, will be waiting for it! Hope all goes well with the dumping process

12 May 2012, 00:14	#9
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	I have dumped the game for SPS / both RAW and Stream flux version, i'm currently uploading the dumps on their FTP. Next, i'll upload the extended ADF, and the powercopy images.

12 May 2012, 00:41	#10
brolly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lost Posts: 435	Perfect just perfect. So awesome to finally see this game properly dumped.

12 May 2012, 07:15	#11
brolly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lost Posts: 435	Just saw you uploaded them, thanks a lot! Did you try installing it on WinUAE? Because it's not recognizing disk 2 for me, it finishes the installation of the first disk and then it keeps asking for disk 2 and simply don't recognize it as being the correct disk.

12 May 2012, 14:16	#12
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	Ok, so this means it doesn't use the sync $4489 :S I must redo them :'(

12 May 2012, 15:41	#13
brolly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lost Posts: 435	Too bad, this game seems to be challenging to dump properly. Hope you can manage to do it.

12 May 2012, 16:03	#14
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	i think that i will need the help of someone able to check what the game wants when loading disk 2 (and all the others). The fact is that the game use an MFM format seen as Dos format (LOL !), and while i tried to create extended ADF with RAWREAD, the game complains when loading track 9 "seccum error" which mean sector checksum error. i tried to create an 'index' copy, but it's not enough, and the game doesn't recognize the disk 2.

12 May 2012, 16:32	#15
Whitesnake Martin Shaw Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 456	dlfrsilver you should take a picture of your game collection sometime.

12 May 2012, 17:05	#16
brolly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lost Posts: 435	I'm sure there are some members here that can assist you with that, at least I hope so. I can't help you with that because I'm afraid it's beyond my knowledge. Maybe create a new thread asking for help with it? Just out of curiosity, it has nothing to do with the adf dumping, but if you install the game on a real amiga and then copy the installation folder to your pc hard drive and run it through WinUAE do you think the game would at least work?

12 May 2012, 18:03	#17
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	Yes the game works if i install it on hard drive, but we should have the game on extended ADF too.

12 May 2012, 18:08	#18
brolly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lost Posts: 435	Yeah I agree, I was just asking because worst case scenario you could make an hdf available, but I hope you manage to properly dump it to extended adfs. Now lets hope someone can help you out

12 May 2012, 22:49	#19
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	I would imagine there is stuff hidden in the gap much like the protection track on Anco games and the John Twiddy games (Aladdin, Cool Spot etc) that is used by the games custom loader to check that its the original disk. I suspect that the images for hard drive installation will be fine, will need someone to patch the ingame loader to stop it checking for the hidden gap stuff.

13 May 2012, 19:30	#20
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	the disks are not checked once installed on hard drive. Only loading from disk is a problem.

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