Project XG

DDNI · 25 July 2006, 01:40

Did anyone ever build CU Amigas Project XG? Sept 1997 I think....

sarek2k · 25 July 2006, 02:47

Tell us more

i'd finished reading by 95!

Zetr0 · 25 July 2006, 02:48

i'd like to see a link too

DDNI · 25 July 2006, 09:49

I have the full article here in the magazine. Heres a link with some info though.

http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminews/1...0-cuamiga.html

Zetr0 · 25 July 2006, 12:55

now i would love to get my little hacky fingers on a pdf of that DDNI i could have some fun with the DSP

tell you what DDNI if you post the artical with its components i will source them, and give a present day cost to the unit.

DDNI · 28 July 2006, 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

now i would love to get my little hacky fingers on a pdf of that DDNI i could have some fun with the DSP

tell you what DDNI if you post the artical with its components i will source them, and give a present day cost to the unit.

Ok will scan it. Am away all weekend, but should get time next week....

Zetr0 · 28 July 2006, 12:44

thanks DDNI

DDNI · 08 August 2006, 21:12

Posted the scans to the zone as promised...

Secret Vampire · 08 August 2006, 22:38

Would you believe, I actually have one of those DB50XG cards, though I had other plans for it, also one on eBay right now, for pretty cheap.

Finding a new one is likely to be impossible today, however, I suspect that the wavetable synthesis on more recent PCI cards can match the XG anyway, so for PCI equipped people that is probably the way forward.

Zetr0 · 09 August 2006, 15:24

Thanks DDNI, i have found my christmas project.

and after a little sourcing:-

about 80 euros
http://fr.audiofanzine.com/produits/...uit,12323.html

about 60 dollars
http://www.music123.com/Yamaha-Yamah...-i223573.music

for about £5 (if it could be moddified!)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sound-Card-Wav...QQcmdZViewItem

// some xg clone wave table modules

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wu-Ming-Shop-C...QQcmdZViewItem

personally i have always wanted a good Korg
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wu-Ming-Shop-K...QQcmdZViewItem

I am somewhat tempted with this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wu-Ming-Shop-E...QQcmdZViewItem

other links for interest.

its been done before by those nice germans

http://www.compuzik.de/DB50XG.html

heres the ST version (not bad links on this one)
http://atari.nvg.org/db50xg/

pc programming and bank loading
http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/M...s/XG_Gold.html

and not all waveblasters are computer products!!
http://www.tayna.co.uk/item/3389/0/Y...otorc_prod.htm
(serves you right for being a link hungry whore)

Zetr0 · 09 August 2006, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Secret Vampire

I suspect that the wavetable synthesis on more recent PCI cards can match the XG anyway, so for PCI equipped people that is probably the way forward.

I wish it were true my friend, but am not so sure that it is.

, unless of course your willing to spend a lot of money ( £100 +) for true midi XG wave table sythisis on the card and then too write your own drivers. of course i am sure as you say that if your willing for a lesser sythisis then obviously it would cost less.. but i admit i am really tempted to get create a Korg version of the wave table adapter project ( one of the latter modules can be loaded for over 1000 instruments with 32 or 64 multitimbrals(voices/channels) too). hmmm Med-sound studio would be almost heaven.

I am also interested in seeing if one could (*adapt*) an old isa card(s) that has the wave table on them as well.

DDNI · 09 August 2006, 17:55

Zetro, I would be keen to see the finished project!

Zetr0 · 14 August 2006, 05:27

Heys my friend, just a little update... I bought a KORG tinity synth wavetable card.

Specs are almost the same as the DB50XG

4MB of GM/XG (compressed)
has 32 timbers (NICE!)
comes with 540+ instuments/voices (preloaded)
full DSP effects
*echo
*chorus
*Vibrato
etc.

i got it for 25£ from ebay in the end.. i will keep you posted to let you know if it can be *modified* or in atleast a minor substitution for the yamaha.

DDNI · 14 August 2006, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

Heys my friend, just a little update... I bought a KORG tinity synth wavetable card.

Specs are almost the same as the DB50XG

4MB of GM/XG (compressed)
has 32 timbers (NICE!)
comes with 540+ instuments/voices (preloaded)
full DSP effects
*echo
*chorus
*Vibrato
etc.

i got it for 25£ from ebay in the end.. i will keep you posted to let you know if it can be *modified* or in atleast a minor substitution for the yamaha.

That sounds brilliant! All the best with the project... Maybe when its done you should let Matthew at Amigakit look at it. Maybe it could be a commercial product.... It certainly seems a bit like the atlantis over at individual computers http://www.jschoenfeld.com/products/atlantis_e.htm

Zetr0 · 14 August 2006, 20:20

indeed.... indeed... i was just thinking that if this project can run directly with standard wavetable cards imma sure that a comercial ready to plug in kit could be made available...

another interesting idea is converting the amiga audio out into a digial source and then plumbing it through the dsp for use with all its feautures feature.

hmmm i wonder if i could get it to load instruments to the wavecard via serial or even parallel... hmmm... might need to make it also external power...

you know... i am a little excited... (and contrary to bippym's sugestion, its not sexually either...)

RetroMan · 14 August 2006, 22:09

Hmmmm

http://www.aminet.net/search.php?query=waveblaster.lha

alewis · 15 August 2006, 23:04

Dang, missed the scans. Could someone upload again?

DDNI · 16 August 2006, 00:40

scans re zoned for alewis

Zetr0 · 22 August 2006, 20:05

Just a little pic of the monster to be..

Korg Ai20

Midi XG wave table

4MB compressed

32 timbers

540+ instruments

32 drum banks

and lots of other stuff i havent got to look at yet LOL..

keropi · 22 August 2006, 20:27

huh... look what I have connected on a Terratec SixPack 5.1+ ...
a YAMAHA DB60XG , made by NEC under licence... this has extra an analogue input, that is the difference with the DB50XG....

25 July 2006, 01:40	#1
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	Project XG Did anyone ever build CU Amigas Project XG? Sept 1997 I think....

09 August 2006, 15:24	#10
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Thanks DDNI, i have found my christmas project. and after a little sourcing:- about 80 euros http://fr.audiofanzine.com/produits/...uit,12323.html about 60 dollars http://www.music123.com/Yamaha-Yamah...-i223573.music for about £5 (if it could be moddified!) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sound-Card-Wav...QQcmdZViewItem // some xg clone wave table modules http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wu-Ming-Shop-C...QQcmdZViewItem personally i have always wanted a good Korg http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wu-Ming-Shop-K...QQcmdZViewItem I am somewhat tempted with this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wu-Ming-Shop-E...QQcmdZViewItem other links for interest. its been done before by those nice germans http://www.compuzik.de/DB50XG.html heres the ST version (not bad links on this one) http://atari.nvg.org/db50xg/ pc programming and bank loading http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/M...s/XG_Gold.html and not all waveblasters are computer products!! http://www.tayna.co.uk/item/3389/0/Y...otorc_prod.htm (serves you right for being a link hungry whore) Last edited by Zetr0; 09 August 2006 at 15:48.

22 August 2006, 20:05	#19
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	And here it is... Just a little pic of the monster to be.. Korg Ai20 Midi XG wave table 4MB compressed 32 timbers 540+ instruments 32 drum banks and lots of other stuff i havent got to look at yet LOL.. Attached Thumbnails

22 August 2006, 20:27	#20
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	huh... look what I have connected on a Terratec SixPack 5.1+ ... a YAMAHA DB60XG , made by NEC under licence... this has extra an analogue input, that is the difference with the DB50XG.... Attached Thumbnails Last edited by keropi; 22 August 2006 at 20:47.

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25 July 2006, 02:47	#2
sarek2k E.A.B Addict and Proud Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 56 Posts: 543	Tell us more i'd finished reading by 95!

25 July 2006, 02:48	#3
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	i'd like to see a link too

25 July 2006, 09:49	#4
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	I have the full article here in the magazine. Heres a link with some info though. http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminews/1...0-cuamiga.html

25 July 2006, 12:55	#5
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	now i would love to get my little hacky fingers on a pdf of that DDNI i could have some fun with the DSP tell you what DDNI if you post the artical with its components i will source them, and give a present day cost to the unit.

28 July 2006, 12:44	#7
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	thanks DDNI

08 August 2006, 21:12	#8
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	Posted the scans to the zone as promised...

08 August 2006, 22:38	#9
Secret Vampire Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Birmingham UK Age: 43 Posts: 214	Would you believe, I actually have one of those DB50XG cards, though I had other plans for it, also one on eBay right now, for pretty cheap. Finding a new one is likely to be impossible today, however, I suspect that the wavetable synthesis on more recent PCI cards can match the XG anyway, so for PCI equipped people that is probably the way forward.

09 August 2006, 17:55	#12
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	Zetro, I would be keen to see the finished project!

14 August 2006, 05:27	#13
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Heys my friend, just a little update... I bought a KORG tinity synth wavetable card. Specs are almost the same as the DB50XG 4MB of GM/XG (compressed) has 32 timbers (NICE!) comes with 540+ instuments/voices (preloaded) full DSP effects echo chorus Vibrato etc. i got it for 25£ from ebay in the end.. i will keep you posted to let you know if it can be modified* or in atleast a minor substitution for the yamaha.

14 August 2006, 20:20	#15
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	indeed.... indeed... i was just thinking that if this project can run directly with standard wavetable cards imma sure that a comercial ready to plug in kit could be made available... another interesting idea is converting the amiga audio out into a digial source and then plumbing it through the dsp for use with all its feautures feature. hmmm i wonder if i could get it to load instruments to the wavecard via serial or even parallel... hmmm... might need to make it also external power... you know... i am a little excited... (and contrary to bippym's sugestion, its not sexually either...)

14 August 2006, 22:09	#16
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Hmmmm http://www.aminet.net/search.php?query=waveblaster.lha

15 August 2006, 23:04	#17
alewis Monochrome and 8 bit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Underbarrow, Gods Country Age: 57 Posts: 600	Dang, missed the scans. Could someone upload again?

16 August 2006, 00:40	#18
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	scans re zoned for alewis

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