WinUAE 0.8.21R4 released - Page 3

nnever2000 · 04 June 2002, 12:27

Im not interested to OpenGL rendering (I have Open Gl off)

Anyway opengl work perfectly with cpu setting = fatest as possible

I cant use WinUae with 'match a500 speed' setting or 'balanced cpu/Chipset' setting (I tryed all value from 1 to 9)

Simply the amiga do not boot (hang with a grey screen with kick13 or purple screen with kick30)

Paul · 04 June 2002, 12:39

Works fine for me with KS1.3, 'match a500 speed' setting and with Open Gl on, which is me default config. I did have to update my XP Drives though.

andreas · 05 June 2002, 01:55

Quote:

I cant use WinUae with 'match a500 speed' setting or 'balanced cpu/Chipset' setting (I tryed all value from 1 to 9)

Toni, could this be the "100% CPU usage fix" I pushed you to put in?

nnever2000 · 05 June 2002, 09:16

I forgot, 21R3 work fine on my laptop

Toni Wilen · 05 June 2002, 09:36

It seems laptops' power saving that changes CPU clock speed causes problems with my cpu idle patch. Unfortunately I have no idea how to fix this..

jmmijo · 05 June 2002, 09:58

Actually I don't think you can as this is a power saving technique used by laptop manufacturers to extend battery life. My only suggestion for laptop users is to live with it or turn off the bloody power saving modes. Problem here is that some laptops don't have access to turning these features off so you're hosed then

nnever2000 · 05 June 2002, 12:18

Confirmed, turning off cpu safe mode Winuae works fine

Toni, can you turn optional your patch?

andreas · 05 June 2002, 18:30

That's a very good idea. :thumbs_up

@nnever2000
Put the blame on me.

I had thought there must be a way to tell WinUAE to not use up 100% CPU all the time. Then, I had asked Toni if he could try with an experimental fix, and I tried it again. CPU load was a lot less heavier than in the older version...

Toni, is there a technically reliable way to detect the usage of a laptop?
such as...

<pseudo-code>
if (isLaptop())
then CPU_IDLE_FIX = off
else CPU_IDLE_FIX = on
endif
</pseudo-code>

Sorta...
You know what I'm thinking about: a sort of an internal on-off switch.
This principle is identical to the one used with Bernie's cmov instruction detection code. If AMD inside, turn it on, otherwise turn it off. Self-acting, without any user interaction.

06 June 2002, 22:27

Has anyone noticed this apart from me? When you press F12 in full screen OpenGL mode the GUI is invisible sometimes. All you can see is the Windows cursor. Very annoying. Am I talking to myself?

Drake1009 · 06 June 2002, 22:34

I never had problems with that. Do you use a standard windows color scheme? AFAIK opengl draws on a certain colored background. IF the menu is the color of the background drawn on it might have the game drawn on it.

7-Zark-7 · 07 June 2002, 06:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Quickbeam
Has anyone noticed this apart from me? When you press F12 in full screen OpenGL mode the GUI is invisible sometimes. All you can see is the Windows cursor. Very annoying. Am I talking to myself?

@Quickbeam. The last time I encountered this issue was during the WinUAE's 0817rx series. I haven't tried 0821r3 or 4 yet, but 0821r2 worked fine without this. Are you a Win98/98SE o/s USER?
(Thats for you Drake! Happy now?!)

07 June 2002, 21:11

Quote:

Originally posted by Drake1009
I never had problems with that. Do you use a standard windows color scheme? AFAIK opengl draws on a certain colored background. IF the menu is the color of the background drawn on it might have the game drawn on it.

I use the standard Windows colour scheme - is that important? Anyway the GUI invisibility problem only occurs in OpenGL full-screen mode. Windowed mode is fine.

Quote:

Originally posted by 7-Zark-7

@Quickbeam. The last time I encountered this issue was during the WinUAE's 0817rx series. I haven't tried 0821r3 or 4 yet, but 0821r2 worked fine without this. Are you a Win98/98SE o/s USER?
(Thats for you Drake! Happy now?!)

I never had any problems with the old releases, invisibility-wise. I'm almost positive the problem is OpenGL-related. Like I said before, it doesn't happen all the time but more often than not, when you press F12, you can't see the GUI.

My specs are WinMe, a 1GHz Athlon and a GeoForce2 MX.

05 June 2002, 18:30	#48
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	That's a very good idea. :thumbs_up @nnever2000 Put the blame on me. I had thought there must be a way to tell WinUAE to not use up 100% CPU all the time. Then, I had asked Toni if he could try with an experimental fix, and I tried it again. CPU load was a lot less heavier than in the older version... Toni, is there a technically reliable way to detect the usage of a laptop? such as... <pseudo-code> if (isLaptop()) then CPU_IDLE_FIX = off else CPU_IDLE_FIX = on endif </pseudo-code> Sorta... You know what I'm thinking about: a sort of an internal on-off switch. This principle is identical to the one used with Bernie's cmov instruction detection code. If AMD inside, turn it on, otherwise turn it off. Self-acting, without any user interaction. Last edited by andreas; 05 June 2002 at 22:48.

06 June 2002, 22:27	#49
Quickbeam Posts: n/a	GUI invisibility Has anyone noticed this apart from me? When you press F12 in full screen OpenGL mode the GUI is invisible sometimes. All you can see is the Windows cursor. Very annoying. Am I talking to myself?

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
WinUAE 2.3.0 released	Toni Wilen	News	28	26 November 2010 16:31
Joystick probs in WinUAE 8.21R4	Unregistered	support.WinUAE	6	26 September 2002 20:25
sound prob in winuae 0.8.21r4	corenemesis	support.WinUAE	4	19 August 2002 16:55
WinUAE 0.8.21r4 - Anyone have save states working?	option	support.WinUAE	3	08 July 2002 23:12
Joystick Problems in 0.8.21R4?	Cyberduck	support.WinUAE	10	31 May 2002 02:27

04 June 2002, 12:27	#41
nnever2000 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: italy Posts: 138	Im not interested to OpenGL rendering (I have Open Gl off) Anyway opengl work perfectly with cpu setting = fatest as possible I cant use WinUae with 'match a500 speed' setting or 'balanced cpu/Chipset' setting (I tryed all value from 1 to 9) Simply the amiga do not boot (hang with a grey screen with kick13 or purple screen with kick30)

04 June 2002, 12:39	#42
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	Works fine for me with KS1.3, 'match a500 speed' setting and with Open Gl on, which is me default config. I did have to update my XP Drives though.

05 June 2002, 09:16	#44
nnever2000 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: italy Posts: 138	I forgot, 21R3 work fine on my laptop

05 June 2002, 09:36	#45
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	It seems laptops' power saving that changes CPU clock speed causes problems with my cpu idle patch. Unfortunately I have no idea how to fix this..

05 June 2002, 09:58	#46
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	Actually I don't think you can as this is a power saving technique used by laptop manufacturers to extend battery life. My only suggestion for laptop users is to live with it or turn off the bloody power saving modes. Problem here is that some laptops don't have access to turning these features off so you're hosed then

05 June 2002, 12:18	#47
nnever2000 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: italy Posts: 138	Confirmed, turning off cpu safe mode Winuae works fine Toni, can you turn optional your patch?

06 June 2002, 22:34	#50
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	I never had problems with that. Do you use a standard windows color scheme? AFAIK opengl draws on a certain colored background. IF the menu is the color of the background drawn on it might have the game drawn on it.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)