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Old 14 November 2017, 12:36   #61
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Nothing for KS1.3 ? ( )
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Old 14 November 2017, 15:49   #62
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Nothing for KS1.3 ? ( )
Yes, you can remove the chips and install 3.x ones :P
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Old 14 November 2017, 18:10   #63
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Hey, that's my A4k :-)
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Old 14 November 2017, 18:23   #64
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and the "info" command says what on large disks (i.e. >4GB) ?
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Old 14 November 2017, 18:37   #65
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good question, didn't check that out. I did however notice that when I open a 32gb usbstick plugged in my deneb the windows actually says it's a 32gb one and not some strange amount anymore. So that's good.
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Old 14 November 2017, 19:26   #66
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Hey, that's my A4k :-)
Hey Simon! Didn't know you were in EAB. Let me update the first post
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Nothing for KS1.3 ? ( )
The knowledge required to build the Kickstart 1.3 ROM may be lost. It's possible that some of the original Amiga/Commodore engineers might recall how it worked, but we haven't asked. All that remains are a set of large shell scripts which apparently used to run on SunOS, which use build tools and special Amiga hardware that is no longer available.

If I understand correctly how this worked, the Sun workstation was linked to the Amiga, and the build script would transmit the modules to it, where the Kickstart image was constructed in memory. That image could then also be tested directly on the Amiga.

Anyway, even if the knowledge required to knit the Kickstart 1.3 modules into a working ROM image were recovered, there would still be the problem of how to compile the 'C' code. The compiler which was used back then no longer exists in this form.
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and the "info" command says what on large disks (i.e. >4GB) ?
That depends upon the size of the respective volume, of course. In any case, the updated "Info" command no longer has such a pronounced negative attitude towards volumes larger than 2 Gigabytes
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Every now and then ;-)
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The knowledge required to build the Kickstart 1.3 ROM may be lost.
Hmm, very loosely related to this subject, is there any trace in the version control logs as to why they changed the title bar decoration between 1.1 -> 1.2? :-D
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Hmm, very loosely related to this subject, is there any trace in the version control logs as to why they changed the title bar decoration between 1.1 -> 1.2? :-D
The version control logs reach back to June 17, 1986 but as these things go, the log messages are not that informative More information can be found in change log files written as summaries by the engineers, but not many of these logs survive.

As far as I know, the change log files written by the engineers for the work which led to Kickstart/Workbench 1.3 are still around, but they do not go into great detail. Anything prior to the Kickstart/Workbench 1.2 appears to be lost, including the rationale for the title bar decoration change.
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The knowledge required to build the Kickstart 1.3 ROM may be lost. It's possible that some of the original Amiga/Commodore engineers might recall how it worked, but we haven't asked. All that remains are a set of large shell scripts which apparently used to run on SunOS, which use build tools and special Amiga hardware that is no longer available.

If I understand correctly how this worked, the Sun workstation was linked to the Amiga, and the build script would transmit the modules to it, where the Kickstart image was constructed in memory. That image could then also be tested directly on the Amiga.

Anyway, even if the knowledge required to knit the Kickstart 1.3 modules into a working ROM image were recovered, there would still be the problem of how to compile the 'C' code. The compiler which was used back then no longer exists in this form.
Thanks Olaf.
The most useful thing would be a FastFileSystem using TD64 style, compatible with KS34 and 68000, to be set in the RDB.
Toni Wilen already done it for PFS3 http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/pfs3aio
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Maybe I missed this info but what is the expected timeframe of this 3.1.4 update?

And is it currently seen as a "one off" thing or (hopefully) - econmy permitting - a start to more regular updates (regular meaning something new every 2 years or so ;-)
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Old 16 November 2017, 13:01   #74
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Thanks Olaf.
The most useful thing would be a FastFileSystem using TD64 style, compatible with KS34 and 68000, to be set in the RDB.
I agree that it would be useful, but it is currently beyond the scope of the 3.1.4 project work. We would first like to complete work on the Amiga 3.x operating system version which is likely to be the foundation for future 68k development. The Amiga 1.x operating system versions do not need the same kind of effort and care at the moment.
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Toni recently patched FFS 45.13 to add TD64 support and work on Kickstart 1.3...
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There is info command replacement by Stephan Rupprecht http://aminet.net/package/util/sys/info maybe worth to add to workbench 3.1.4 ...
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Old 17 November 2017, 07:13   #77
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would be good if they could add "free download" to 3.1.4 :/ Maybe then it will get some use.
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Old 17 November 2017, 11:33   #78
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There is info command replacement by Stephan Rupprecht http://aminet.net/package/util/sys/info maybe worth to add to workbench 3.1.4 ...
And also this one... ('cause I wrote it )
http://aminet.net/package/driver/other/anaiis Anaiis/bin/info_13
info command compatible with workbench 1.x and upper with partitions >2GB
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Old 17 November 2017, 13:03   #79
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You must have BB2 to do the patch (I only have the 1.3 disks/ROM from Commodore (1989) and 3.1 disks/ROM from Village Tronic (1996)).
I mean something *official* from Hyperion or Cloanto or something else.
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And also this one... ('cause I wrote it )
http://aminet.net/package/driver/other/anaiis Anaiis/bin/info_13
info command compatible with workbench 1.x and upper with partitions >2GB
That is awesome.
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