WinUAE savestates on real Amiga - Page 2

KONEY · 28 January 2009, 00:25

I have an amiga floppy disk called AR IV but it claims to be for A1200 only. I also think this is available via aminet too. Last but not least, it should only be a monitor/trainer utility with no freeze/save options...

I hope te be wrong on all of the above, please Supamax let us know

Supamax · 28 January 2009, 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

I have an amiga floppy disk called AR IV but it claims to be for A1200 only. I also think this is available via aminet too. Last but not least, it should only be a monitor/trainer utility with no freeze/save options...

I hope te be wrong on all of the above, please Supamax let us know

I tried it a few minutes ago. You're not wrong, unfortunately... it's A1200-only

Amiga1992 · 28 January 2009, 02:16

Why not run it under WinUAE?

Supamax · 28 January 2009, 03:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Why not run it under WinUAE?

Yes, it's possible, of course, but I (but that's me

) was searching for some kind of freezer solution for my real A600.
Unless WHDload provides such a feature, but I don't think so...

Thorham · 28 January 2009, 04:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

???
Isn't WinUAE's memory configuration simple enough for you?
I found it *perfect* for any use and configuration

I know I'm 'a bit' late with this, but what I meant was an easy way to setup the memory map configuration, my bad

Memory setup itself is easy enough, of course, but it doesn't seem to allow the user to specify where the memory goes in the memory map. This might be usefull to setup WinUae to be a copy of a hardware configuration of choice. If possible, of course

Retro1234 · 28 January 2009, 10:07

Does the SA command work on AR WinUae - I just tryed it and got an endless cycles of colours or does it just take ages?

KONEY · 28 January 2009, 10:27

It works OK, it's just quite slow. The colors on screen are something to show it's packing the data.

Toni Wilen · 28 January 2009, 11:10

Loading statefiles could work "easily" with following restrictions:
- real Amiga must have more memory than saved in statefile (for example 0.5M chip only in statefile, 0.5+0.5 real Amiga)
- statefile must be uncompressed

Of course memory configuration must match ("unused" space does not need to match). For example 0.5 chip ram statefile generally work fine in 0.5+0.5 configuration. Kickstart also must match 100% if OS is not disabled in statefile.

I am not sure if I am bored enough to try

KONEY · 28 January 2009, 11:15

Hey new things to try....

Disable OS in savestates? how?

Rabbit80 · 28 January 2009, 11:32

For the A600 is it not possible to use HRTMon (I think thats what its called) and put a Lvl 7 interrupt button mod on it? I did this with my A500+ back in the day because I couldn't use my AR3 cartridge with my hard disk!

KONEY · 28 January 2009, 13:12

http://www.planetemu.net/?section=ro...wrom&id=515318

Software version...with save options...maybe it works with A600! have to try tonight.

Retro1234 · 28 January 2009, 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I am not sure if I am bored enough to try

I was so bored I made a AR save state and put it in the Zone it should work on any Amiga

KONEY · 28 January 2009, 14:07

Ok, exaclty how is this AR file done? If it works it means that you're able to transform a UAE savestate into a valid freezefile loadable with Aload?

Retro1234 · 28 January 2009, 14:45

No nothing like that I havent used AR for years but I remember one of the tools I use to pass around was Burst nibbler so I just changed some settings in F3 and it worked.

BUT it might only work with stuff that kills the OS - alot of stuff will work on other configs but only witk Kick 1.3 - Maybe Skick will help.

Also Sa doesnt work 100% for me under WinUae some configs just stick so I cant try further.

KONEY · 28 January 2009, 14:50

Yes, stuff that don't kill the OS already run from HDs!

Exactly, what are "settings in F3" ??, I mean, if it works how can I be able to obtain a loadable savestate, as yours?

Retro1234 · 28 January 2009, 15:19

I also tried some games like Double Dragon I dont know what settings are relvant but here is the Setup I used.
QuickStart A500 - 512kb Chip
AR/F3 UnSelect Clear Mem & Add also I turned off all virus tests
"Reset"

KONEY · 28 January 2009, 15:31

ah so this is not an UAE savestate, but an AR freezefile?

I'll try to load it into my real A600!

Retro1234 · 28 January 2009, 15:35

It should work it worked on my real A1200 030 32mb

Supamax · 28 January 2009, 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorham

I know I'm 'a bit' late with this, but what I meant was an easy way to setup the memory map configuration, my bad

Memory setup itself is easy enough, of course, but it doesn't seem to allow the user to specify where the memory goes in the memory map. This might be usefull to setup WinUae to be a copy of a hardware configuration of choice. If possible, of course

Ah, I understand now!

Supamax · 28 January 2009, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

It should work it worked on my real A1200 030 32mb

When you load the A500 AR3 save in your A1200, I suppose it will "transform" your A1200 into an A500, right? I mean, the saved program will run and you will not see anymore the hard disk, the PCMCIA, the 030 etc.
Or did you find a solution to load the AR3 save "transparently"?

28 January 2009, 14:07	#33
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	Ok, exaclty how is this AR file done? If it works it means that you're able to transform a UAE savestate into a valid freezefile loadable with Aload? Last edited by KONEY; 28 January 2009 at 14:32.

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28 January 2009, 00:25	#21
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	I have an amiga floppy disk called AR IV but it claims to be for A1200 only. I also think this is available via aminet too. Last but not least, it should only be a monitor/trainer utility with no freeze/save options... I hope te be wrong on all of the above, please Supamax let us know

28 January 2009, 02:16	#23
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Why not run it under WinUAE?

28 January 2009, 10:07	#26
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Does the SA command work on AR WinUae - I just tryed it and got an endless cycles of colours or does it just take ages?

28 January 2009, 10:27	#27
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	It works OK, it's just quite slow. The colors on screen are something to show it's packing the data.

28 January 2009, 11:10	#28
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Loading statefiles could work "easily" with following restrictions: - real Amiga must have more memory than saved in statefile (for example 0.5M chip only in statefile, 0.5+0.5 real Amiga) - statefile must be uncompressed Of course memory configuration must match ("unused" space does not need to match). For example 0.5 chip ram statefile generally work fine in 0.5+0.5 configuration. Kickstart also must match 100% if OS is not disabled in statefile. I am not sure if I am bored enough to try

28 January 2009, 11:15	#29
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	Hey new things to try.... Disable OS in savestates? how?

28 January 2009, 11:32	#30
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 43 Posts: 633	For the A600 is it not possible to use HRTMon (I think thats what its called) and put a Lvl 7 interrupt button mod on it? I did this with my A500+ back in the day because I couldn't use my AR3 cartridge with my hard disk!

28 January 2009, 13:12	#31
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	http://www.planetemu.net/?section=ro...wrom&id=515318 Software version...with save options...maybe it works with A600! have to try tonight.

28 January 2009, 14:45	#34
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	No nothing like that I havent used AR for years but I remember one of the tools I use to pass around was Burst nibbler so I just changed some settings in F3 and it worked. BUT it might only work with stuff that kills the OS - alot of stuff will work on other configs but only witk Kick 1.3 - Maybe Skick will help. Also Sa doesnt work 100% for me under WinUae some configs just stick so I cant try further.

28 January 2009, 14:50	#35
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	Yes, stuff that don't kill the OS already run from HDs! Exactly, what are "settings in F3" ??, I mean, if it works how can I be able to obtain a loadable savestate, as yours?

28 January 2009, 15:19	#36
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	I also tried some games like Double Dragon I dont know what settings are relvant but here is the Setup I used. QuickStart A500 - 512kb Chip AR/F3 UnSelect Clear Mem & Add also I turned off all virus tests "Reset"

28 January 2009, 15:31	#37
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	ah so this is not an UAE savestate, but an AR freezefile? I'll try to load it into my real A600!

28 January 2009, 15:35	#38
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	It should work it worked on my real A1200 030 32mb

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