Wolfenstein 3D on 68020 14 MHz

[BSzili]

I guess it doesn't run on all configs at the same speed. Maybe the speed of the Fast RAM can make a difference? Patches like that probably won't help, as the game doesn't use CopyMem, not where it matters anyways.

[modrobert]

Originally Posted by BSzili

I guess it doesn't run on all configs at the same speed. Maybe the speed of the Fast RAM can make a difference? Patches like that probably won't help, as the game doesn't use CopyMem, not where it matters anyways.

Here are the results from bustest of fast RAM from my A1200:

8.System:> bustest fast
BusSpeedTest 0.19 (mlelstv)   Buffer:     262144 Bytes, Alignment: 32768
========================================================================
memtype   addr       op         cycle     calib         bandwidth
fast      $002E0000  readw     573.5 ns   normal       3.5 * 10^6 byte/s
fast      $002E0000  readl     573.7 ns   normal       7.0 * 10^6 byte/s
fast      $002E0000  readm     395.2 ns   normal      10.1 * 10^6 byte/s
fast      $002E0000  writew    358.5 ns   normal       5.6 * 10^6 byte/s
fast      $002E0000  writel    359.0 ns   normal      11.1 * 10^6 byte/s
fast      $002E0000  writem    323.7 ns   normal      12.4 * 10^6 byte/s

The fast RAM board is this one (with FPU populated):
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/marpet1208

[BSzili]

I see, that's about half of what I get in WinUAE with the A1200 4MB Fast RAM config. Later I'll pop in my 4MB Fast RAM expansion to see what numbers I get on my actual machine. I can't remember the brand, but it's one of those basic ones that takes a single 72-pin SIMM module.

[modrobert]

Originally Posted by BSzili

I see, that's about half of what I get in WinUAE with the A1200 4MB Fast RAM config. Later I'll pop in my 4MB Fast RAM expansion to see what numbers I get on my actual machine. I can't remember the brand, but it's one of those basic ones that takes a single 72-pin SIMM module.

I think Wolfenstein 3D runs fine with 9-10 fps (slightly below default screen size), but if you are curious, go ahead.

[LaBodilsen]

Originally Posted by BSzili

That's nice, have fun with it!

Thanks.
First step to see if I could, I changed the control scheme to use left/right to strafe, and disabled mouse forward/backward movement.

it does play a little more modern now with the possiblity of circle strafing.

[jotd]

I just tried those conversions on A1200/060 without RTG. It runs great and joypad control is awesome. The sound rocks. This work is amazing.

I completed DOOM back in the day, it was also great, but I used RTG at the time AFAIR.

[BSzili]

Thanks I bet it runs like a dream on that setup. In the meantime I added RTG support, as some people ended up with RTG modes via mode promotion, and got broken graphics. This is not public yet as I plan to do some other changes before I make an update.

[utri007]

Originally Posted by BSzili

Thanks I bet it runs like a dream on that setup. In the meantime I added RTG support, as some people ended up with RTG modes via mode promotion, and got broken graphics. This is not public yet as I plan to do some other changes before I make an update.

Is ECS version progressing?

[vroom6sri]

Originally Posted by modrobert

The default for me was a screen size which covers the fps counter, if I make the screen a tiny bit smaller so the fps counter is just above the screen then it's 9-10 fps.

I tried with a minimal startup-sequence, got same fps, doesn't seem to matter if CMQ030 is loaded or not either (that makes a difference with AmiWolf).

EDIT:

The version I downloaded was 1.0 from Aminet:
http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/wolf4amiga

I hadn't heard of CMQ030 before. I have an Aca1230/56 and have now added this to my system and if seems to have made some speed improvements although I've not carried out any scientific tests but ADoom seems to run better. Are there any other patches I should consider for my accelerator to get the most out of these 3d games?

[BSzili]

Originally Posted by utri007

Is ECS version progressing?

There's no C2P for it yet, so it's on hold for now.

[vroom6sri]

I’ve been playing this loads lately and it’s mega but I’ve noticed some odd behaviour - randomly the game keeps dropping back to the menu as if I’ve hit Escape. I’m not sure if that means I’ve got a faulty keyboard or it’s something in the code but it’s becoming a bit annoying now.

[BSzili]

The best way to test this would be to unplug every peripheral from your machine that's not needed to run or control the game, and try if it still happens. If it does, then you can try to start a level, and unplug the keyboard as well, and let it run by itself for a while.

[vroom6sri]

Thanks, BSzili. It would seem that my joystick might be malfunctioning and sending some sort of input because, with that unplugged, I experienced no instances of it dropping back to the menu. I plugged it back in and within a minute or two the menu popped up again so it seems to be the culprit. I've disabled the joystick it the Controls menu and left it plugged in and it seemed to be OK with no random menu pop ups.

Still loving this game. It plays so well.

[BSzili]

I'm glad you managed to find it, these spurious inputs often come from joysticks. Sometimes lowlevel.library can get confused too, but it rarely happens unless there's some activity on the joystick port.

[wairnair]

Do you think you could replace the Strafe button on the CD32 pad with the Automap shortcut (which is only accessible via F1 now)?

Strafe can already be done using the shoulder buttons and it's more convenient to use, imho of course.

Thank you for this port, I'm having great fun with it (didn't have a PC when Wolf was a thing back then, so this is new-old for me)

[jotd]

same here. I enjoy very few games nowadays, but that one is something I wanted to play for ages.

[BSzili]

Originally Posted by wairnair

Do you think you could replace the Strafe button on the CD32 pad with the Automap shortcut (which is only accessible via F1 now)?

Strafe can already be done using the shoulder buttons and it's more convenient to use, imho of course.

Thank you for this port, I'm having great fun with it (didn't have a PC when Wolf was a thing back then, so this is new-old for me)

This would be a very controversial change no doubt Many people would miss the dedicated strafe buttons, as you can only customize the first 4 buttons in the "Customize controls" menu. There's just no free space there, further complicated by the fact that you assign buttons to functions and not the other way around.
The only solution I can think of is to create a whole new submenu for controllers, but that's just not something I'm ready to do for now.

[wairnair]

Originally Posted by BSzili

This would be a very controversial change no doubt Many people would miss the dedicated strafe buttons, as you can only customize the first 4 buttons in the "Customize controls" menu. There's just no free space there, further complicated by the fact that you assign buttons to functions and not the other way around.
The only solution I can think of is to create a whole new submenu for controllers, but that's just not something I'm ready to do for now.

I see, thanks. Maybe a mapping can be done with WHDLoad? Map F1 to the strafe button.

[BSzili]

Possibly, but I'm not very familiar with WHDLoad. Since the game is system friendly, some of the generic slaves might be compatible.

[Aladin]

Originally Posted by BSzili

Possibly, but I'm not very familiar with WHDLoad. Since the game is system friendly, some of the generic slaves might be compatible.

I confirm. The game works well in generic. (Wolf3D, Spear, SpearRTD, SpearUC)