What makes an Amiga 500PLUS ?

Konrad · 09 September 2003, 21:07

So, this is a real n00b question

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I always thought the Amiga500+ is just an Amiga 500 with 1MB and Kick1.3. Now I read it has the ECS chipset and Kick2.0.
So what's the correct specifications (MEM, Kickstart, Chipset,...anything I forgot) for an Amiga 500+ so I can create a correct config file ?

(no, I don't want to d/l a cfg, I'd rather like to create my own

)

Dizzy · 09 September 2003, 21:35

2.0, 1 MB and ECS

Look in the Big Book of Amiga Hardware http://www.amiga-hardware.com/a500+.html
This is paradis for hardware freaks

fisken uno · 09 September 2003, 22:13

Oooooh, I remember how bad I wanted a 500+ back in the day... I would sit for hours gazing in a magazine reading articles about it... The only reason I wanted it instead of a 600 was that I thought it looked nicer. I was just a stoopid kid.

never got one though. I stuck with my ordinary 500...

Konrad · 09 September 2003, 22:43

Wonderful. Thanks Dizzy

.

Severin · 09 September 2003, 23:25

Don't forget it was 1Mb of CHIP ram, unlike an expanded 500 that was usually 512k chip / 512k fast...

Overdoc · 10 September 2003, 19:28

Quote:

Originally posted by fisken uno

never got one though. I stuck with my ordinary 500...

Be glad you never had one !
The kick 2.0 rom would have stopped you running quite a lot of nice games, which were 1.2 or 1.3 only.
On the other hand there are only 2 or 3 games you missed, which actually needed 1MB chip, and none I know which needed ECS grafics or kick 2.0 !

Amiga1992 · 10 September 2003, 21:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Overdoc
Be glad you never had one !
The kick 2.0 rom would have stopped you running quite a lot of nice games, which were 1.2 or 1.3 only.
On the other hand there are only 2 or 3 games you missed, which actually needed 1MB chip, and none I know which needed ECS grafics or kick 2.0 !

I haven't had major toruble with my A600 (which looks MUCH NICER than those ugly A500s, kthxbye), al I needed to do was to softkick it into 1.3 and it would work. Teh odd game might have not worked but I could play 99% of my stuff.

If you were in for it a kickstart ROM sharer would have done a much nicer trick.

So it was shite to those who were not willing to fiddle a bit with their machine.

Djay · 10 September 2003, 21:51

i originally had the A500, then progressed to A1200 (which i still use)... i recently bought an A600 and traded my Jag for a CD32..

my A600 is sooooo cool... i don't feel the need to "collect" an A500+

Drake1009 · 12 September 2003, 09:29

What have you done to your A600? I didn't think it's that cool. It's just smaller than the others.

Dizzy · 12 September 2003, 14:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Drake1009
What have you done to your A600? I didn't think it's that cool. It's just smaller than the others.

I must agree, it's so ugly, and you do lack the num-pad. It's pain in the ass playing Eye of the beholder on a 600

Overdoc · 12 September 2003, 19:30

@Akira:

Hmm, but then you need a A-600 ram expansion, because otherwise the softkicked 1.3 would eat away at least 256MB and you cannot play 1MB games any more

Also, some very old 512k chip only games will not run.

The A-600 is a nice machine, ofcourse, because it is small and has the big advantage of a hd controller

But for a pure gamer I would suggest a plain A-500 with kick 1.3 and 512k ramexpansion, as this will run the most games without troubles.

Dizzy · 12 September 2003, 19:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Overdoc
@Akira:

Hmm, but then you need a A-600 ram expansion, because otherwise the softkicked 1.3 would eat away at least 256MB and you cannot play 1MB games any more

Wow 256 MB

that a shitty prg

Konrad · 12 September 2003, 19:48

Phear the mighty Amiga 600!

SilentBob · 13 November 2003, 17:47

Heh, my A500 with 2.5 MB RAM and KS2.0 ruled the streets where I lived! (Well, for a little while though, back in '92)

It was a real byatch to fit the memory expansion though. It was an AdRAM 504 board. Needed to connect it to the Gary chip socket too.

Miggy2TheMax · 14 November 2003, 01:59

Quote:

Originally posted by Overdoc
@Akira:

Hmm, but then you need a A-600 ram expansion, because otherwise the softkicked 1.3 would eat away at least 256MB and you cannot play 1MB games any more
Also, some very old 512k chip only games will not run.

Phhhoooaoaa 256MB .. thats alot of 128kb chips that had to be soldered under the hood of that a600

Akira, the 600's looked neat, but the 500 was the ducks nuts!

Echo · 14 November 2003, 11:14

A500+ was my first Amiga in 1992. Well, technically I had an A500 for about half a day. The PSU was really dodgy though, so I swapped it out the same day for a +.

No regrets, Workbench 2.04 was far better than 1.3, and I only had a small number of old games that wouldn't work. The most frustrating being Jimmy White's Whirlwind Snooker, which refused to work even with Relokick or TUDE. Luckily I have Virtual Pool Hall with the snooker table to keep me happy these days

If memory serves, ECS was also the first to support "super high res laced" mode, which was 1280x512, or around 1400x560 with overscan. Unfortunately one only had 4 colours to play with

09 September 2003, 21:07	#1
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	What makes an Amiga 500PLUS ? So, this is a real n00b question . I always thought the Amiga500+ is just an Amiga 500 with 1MB and Kick1.3. Now I read it has the ECS chipset and Kick2.0. So what's the correct specifications (MEM, Kickstart, Chipset,...anything I forgot) for an Amiga 500+ so I can create a correct config file ? (no, I don't want to d/l a cfg, I'd rather like to create my own )

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Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	2.0, 1 MB and ECS Look in the Big Book of Amiga Hardware http://www.amiga-hardware.com/a500+.html This is paradis for hardware freaks

09 September 2003, 22:13	#3
fisken uno Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 43 Posts: 716	Oooooh, I remember how bad I wanted a 500+ back in the day... I would sit for hours gazing in a magazine reading articles about it... The only reason I wanted it instead of a 600 was that I thought it looked nicer. I was just a stoopid kid. never got one though. I stuck with my ordinary 500...

09 September 2003, 22:43	#4
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	Wonderful. Thanks Dizzy .

09 September 2003, 23:25	#5
Severin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gloucester / UK Posts: 700	Don't forget it was 1Mb of CHIP ram, unlike an expanded 500 that was usually 512k chip / 512k fast...

10 September 2003, 21:51	#8
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	i originally had the A500, then progressed to A1200 (which i still use)... i recently bought an A600 and traded my Jag for a CD32.. my A600 is sooooo cool... i don't feel the need to "collect" an A500+

12 September 2003, 09:29	#9
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	What have you done to your A600? I didn't think it's that cool. It's just smaller than the others.

12 September 2003, 19:30	#11
Overdoc Commodore Collector Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Austria Age: 53 Posts: 944	@Akira: Hmm, but then you need a A-600 ram expansion, because otherwise the softkicked 1.3 would eat away at least 256MB and you cannot play 1MB games any more Also, some very old 512k chip only games will not run. The A-600 is a nice machine, ofcourse, because it is small and has the big advantage of a hd controller But for a pure gamer I would suggest a plain A-500 with kick 1.3 and 512k ramexpansion, as this will run the most games without troubles.

12 September 2003, 19:48	#13
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	Phear the mighty Amiga 600!

13 November 2003, 17:47	#14
SilentBob Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Norway Age: 49 Posts: 246	Heh, my A500 with 2.5 MB RAM and KS2.0 ruled the streets where I lived! (Well, for a little while though, back in '92) It was a real byatch to fit the memory expansion though. It was an AdRAM 504 board. Needed to connect it to the Gary chip socket too.

14 November 2003, 11:14	#16
Echo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South-West Wales Posts: 382	A500+ was my first Amiga in 1992. Well, technically I had an A500 for about half a day. The PSU was really dodgy though, so I swapped it out the same day for a +. No regrets, Workbench 2.04 was far better than 1.3, and I only had a small number of old games that wouldn't work. The most frustrating being Jimmy White's Whirlwind Snooker, which refused to work even with Relokick or TUDE. Luckily I have Virtual Pool Hall with the snooker table to keep me happy these days If memory serves, ECS was also the first to support "super high res laced" mode, which was 1280x512, or around 1400x560 with overscan. Unfortunately one only had 4 colours to play with

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