Adf to amiga disks - Page 3

alexh · 19 January 2007, 10:57

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yeah it would be so much easier if a pc just could read amigados filesystem using a special software-driver (adfread or fdrawcmd.sys).

I think you mean WRITE. You can already read

trackah123 · 19 January 2007, 11:02

i tried reading a amiga DD disk on pc.. didnt work.. explain how

alexh · 19 January 2007, 11:50

Two floppy drives... standard PC disk in one, Amiga disk in the other... ADFRead util and voila.

It uses the technique developed by Vincent Joguin for Disk2FDI but works under windows thanks to Simon Owen's fdrawcmd

trackah123 · 19 January 2007, 12:17

Quote:

Amiga disk in the other

you mean like a df1: (external amiga drive) connected to your pc? on the parralel port or something

alexh · 19 January 2007, 12:34

Two standard internal 1.44MB PC floppy disk drives connected to the PC motherboard via a regular floppy cable.

Nothing fancy.

trackah123 · 19 January 2007, 12:42

of course

my bad .. somehow i thought amiga "diskdrive" in the other instead of amiga "disk" in the other

Mike UK · 19 January 2007, 17:59

Anyone know what kind of software would come with this? Guess that would of been the lead i need to connect pc serial to amiga serial
Link http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...4260&rd=1&rd=1

trackah123 · 19 January 2007, 18:09

i have no idea.. it says "link utilities" on the picture with an RPS brand on the disk or something like that.. on ebay it says item location from poland.. i dont know

tried to search it on google but nothing found

be careful with ebay some stuff can be fake

Mike UK · 19 January 2007, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by trackah123

i have no idea.. it says "link utilities" on the picture with an RPS brand on the disk or something like that.. on ebay it says item location from poland.. i dont know

tried to search it on google but nothing found

be careful with ebay some stuff can be fake

Looks like he sold a few and they have all left good feedback might get one as i need the lead anyway for amiga explorer/a500+

alexh · 19 January 2007, 19:16

8-wire means that it almost certainly uses PC2Amiga. 8-wire cables are probably not compatible with Amiga Explorer, but dont quote me on that.

The photograph is not of an 8-wire PC2Amiga cable though

Maybe there is another 8-wire cable.

Mike UK · 19 January 2007, 19:19

Amazing really

swear i had less amiga problems first time around

this makes linux seem like childsplay

Think ill give this up as a lost cause

ill buy a A1200 and a pcmcia reader and card from amigakit should make things easier

Thanks for the help

alexh · 19 January 2007, 20:54

It's not a mine field... you just got to know your stuff and do your research.

Ask the seller if it works with Amiga Explorer.

Ask the seller what software is included.

Ask the seller why he lables it an 8-wire cable when it is obviously a serial cable (which has a maximum of 7-wires) from the photo.

Rick Dangerous · 19 January 2007, 21:27

I use ADFSender Terminal and it works perfect for me on A500,600,2000

Cheers,
Rick

Mike UK · 19 January 2007, 21:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

It's not a mine field... you just got to know your stuff and do your research.

Ask the seller if it works with Amiga Explorer.

Ask the seller what software is included.

Ask the seller why he lables it an 8-wire cable when it is obviously a serial cable (which has a maximum of 7-wires) from the photo.

got an email back from the seller says :-

Hello Mike! This cable is dedicated to Twin Express software, which works in DOS. I attach two diskettes, one for PC (bootable with DOS) and one for Amiga. It works with A500+, however it is very recommended to have at least 1,5MB of RAM. I know that there are many other programs, which works in XP and on unexpanded Amigas (ADF sender for example), however they are slow and I prefer Twin Express. This cable will also work with many others. Best regards, Jurek.

alexh · 19 January 2007, 23:19

It is a regular serial cable with this 8-wire stuff thrown in to confuse people.

It will work fine with Amiga Explorer.

Mike UK · 19 January 2007, 23:26

Was wondering what he ment by 8 wire thing myself.
ill get it sick of looking around for a suitable cable by the time i get a amiga serial port to 9 pin adaptor thats £3 and another 3 quid for a standard serial lead

Going to get an A1200 anyway but would be cool if i could transfer adfs to 500+ without it i will be upgrading the memory in the A500+ when i see a good deal going anyway

trackah123 · 20 January 2007, 06:33

@Mike_UK

for me i had 1 workbench 3.0 with bad sectors.. i was very lucky that i could load the disk after a few retries while i got disk read error. and in easyadf software i rewrote wb3.0.adf back to empty dd disk

(without bad sectors lol a fresh and working copy of workbench 3.0 disk) thanks to that i could do a hd-install of wb3.0 and easyadf.

to avoid problems

dont forget to get workbench 3.0 disks as well. (without bad sectors lol). if you dont get it supplied with your amiga 1200 then you can order the workbench 3.0 or 3.1 disks from amigakit.com as well

oh and also don't forget to get a pc-cf cardreader as well (if you dont have one)

CF-card (FAT/FAT95 Formatted)

for floppy boot of the pcmcia easyadf software you only need the workbench 3.0 disk (easyadf uses a part of workbench 3.0 software in order to run)..

without workbench 3.0 you can't run easyadf!!

if you want to do a HD install of workbench 3.0 and easyadf you need all workbench 3.0 disks.. this includes the following

disk 1 : Install Disk Version 3.0
disk 2 : Amiga® Workbench™ Version 3.0
disk 3 : Amiga® Extras Version 3.0
disk 4 : Locale Version 3.0
disk 5 : Amiga® Fonts Version 3.0
disk 6 : Storage Version 3.0

disk 7 : the easyadf disk from amigakit.com

i have it hd-installed and that works so easy

just boot amiga 1200 from hd to wb3.0 then run easyadf and off you go

basically you can order this all at amigakit.com (amiga 1200 , workbench 3.0 or 3.1, pc - cardreader , easyadf pcmcia kit that includes pcmcia adapter and cf-card)

30 January 2007, 06:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike UK

Was wondering what he ment by 8 wire thing myself.
ill get it sick of looking around for a suitable cable by the time i get a amiga serial port to 9 pin adaptor thats £3 and another 3 quid for a standard serial lead

I built my own lead using the instructions on the Cloanto Amiga Forever/AmigaExplorer website: http/amigaforever.com/kb/3-105.html

Using an old PC that could read 720K floppies and Coss Dos on the Amiga, I transferred the "explorer" file to my Amiga, it worked perfectly, but veeerrry slow.

I eventually bought a PCMCIA CF reader and it works very well.

Of course, the easiest way to transfer files if you have a CDrom on your Amiga is to collect as many Amiga programs as ADFs of LHAs as you can on a PC then burn them to CD.

Coagulus · 30 January 2007, 10:02

What I used to do is DMS half of the disk to a file in RAM: copy that file to a PC 720k floppy and then to the PC and then do the same with the other half. In Winuae I then extracted the files to a blank .adf! It was a messy way but it worked fine! Works the other way around too!

Mike UK · 05 February 2007, 18:08

Got the lead from eBay today pretty good havent even tried the disks that came with the thing though
installed amiga explorer and its really easy ..bit slow though

19 January 2007, 11:50	#43
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Two floppy drives... standard PC disk in one, Amiga disk in the other... ADFRead util and voila. It uses the technique developed by Vincent Joguin for Disk2FDI but works under windows thanks to Simon Owen's fdrawcmd Last edited by alexh; 19 January 2007 at 11:57.

19 January 2007, 19:19	#51
Mike UK Motorollin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huddersfield UK Age: 42 Posts: 249	Amazing really swear i had less amiga problems first time around this makes linux seem like childsplay Think ill give this up as a lost cause ill buy a A1200 and a pcmcia reader and card from amigakit should make things easier Thanks for the help Last edited by Mike UK; 19 January 2007 at 19:40.

19 January 2007, 20:54	#52
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	It's not a mine field... you just got to know your stuff and do your research. Ask the seller if it works with Amiga Explorer. Ask the seller what software is included. Ask the seller why he lables it an 8-wire cable when it is obviously a serial cable (which has a maximum of 7-wires) from the photo. Last edited by alexh; 19 January 2007 at 21:05.

20 January 2007, 06:33	#57
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	@Mike_UK for me i had 1 workbench 3.0 with bad sectors.. i was very lucky that i could load the disk after a few retries while i got disk read error. and in easyadf software i rewrote wb3.0.adf back to empty dd disk (without bad sectors lol a fresh and working copy of workbench 3.0 disk) thanks to that i could do a hd-install of wb3.0 and easyadf. to avoid problems dont forget to get workbench 3.0 disks as well. (without bad sectors lol). if you dont get it supplied with your amiga 1200 then you can order the workbench 3.0 or 3.1 disks from amigakit.com as well oh and also don't forget to get a pc-cf cardreader as well (if you dont have one) CF-card (FAT/FAT95 Formatted) for floppy boot of the pcmcia easyadf software you only need the workbench 3.0 disk (easyadf uses a part of workbench 3.0 software in order to run).. *without workbench 3.0 you can't run easyadf!!* if you want to do a HD install of workbench 3.0 and easyadf you need all workbench 3.0 disks.. this includes the following disk 1 : Install Disk Version 3.0 disk 2 : Amiga® Workbench™ Version 3.0 disk 3 : Amiga® Extras Version 3.0 disk 4 : Locale Version 3.0 disk 5 : Amiga® Fonts Version 3.0 disk 6 : Storage Version 3.0 disk 7 : the easyadf disk from amigakit.com i have it hd-installed and that works so easy just boot amiga 1200 from hd to wb3.0 then run easyadf and off you go basically you can order this all at amigakit.com (amiga 1200 , workbench 3.0 or 3.1, pc - cardreader , easyadf pcmcia kit that includes pcmcia adapter and cf-card) Last edited by trackah123; 20 January 2007 at 06:44.

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19 January 2007, 11:02	#42
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	i tried reading a amiga DD disk on pc.. didnt work.. explain how

19 January 2007, 12:34	#45
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Two standard internal 1.44MB PC floppy disk drives connected to the PC motherboard via a regular floppy cable. Nothing fancy.

19 January 2007, 12:42	#46
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	of course my bad .. somehow i thought amiga "diskdrive" in the other instead of amiga "disk" in the other

19 January 2007, 17:59	#47
Mike UK Motorollin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huddersfield UK Age: 42 Posts: 249	Anyone know what kind of software would come with this? Guess that would of been the lead i need to connect pc serial to amiga serial Link http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...4260&rd=1&rd=1

19 January 2007, 18:09	#48
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	i have no idea.. it says "link utilities" on the picture with an RPS brand on the disk or something like that.. on ebay it says item location from poland.. i dont know tried to search it on google but nothing found be careful with ebay some stuff can be fake

19 January 2007, 19:16	#50
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	8-wire means that it almost certainly uses PC2Amiga. 8-wire cables are probably not compatible with Amiga Explorer, but dont quote me on that. The photograph is not of an 8-wire PC2Amiga cable though Maybe there is another 8-wire cable.

19 January 2007, 21:27	#53
Rick Dangerous Registered Playmate Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: OZ Age: 54 Posts: 156	I use ADFSender Terminal and it works perfect for me on A500,600,2000 Cheers, Rick

19 January 2007, 23:19	#55
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	It is a regular serial cable with this 8-wire stuff thrown in to confuse people. It will work fine with Amiga Explorer.

19 January 2007, 23:26	#56
Mike UK Motorollin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huddersfield UK Age: 42 Posts: 249	Was wondering what he ment by 8 wire thing myself. ill get it sick of looking around for a suitable cable by the time i get a amiga serial port to 9 pin adaptor thats £3 and another 3 quid for a standard serial lead Going to get an A1200 anyway but would be cool if i could transfer adfs to 500+ without it i will be upgrading the memory in the A500+ when i see a good deal going anyway

30 January 2007, 10:02	#59
Coagulus Gets there in the end... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 862	What I used to do is DMS half of the disk to a file in RAM: copy that file to a PC 720k floppy and then to the PC and then do the same with the other half. In Winuae I then extracted the files to a blank .adf! It was a messy way but it worked fine! Works the other way around too!

05 February 2007, 18:08	#60
Mike UK Motorollin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huddersfield UK Age: 42 Posts: 249	Got the lead from eBay today pretty good havent even tried the disks that came with the thing though installed amiga explorer and its really easy ..bit slow though

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